Up next. Tonight on the reidout. Admit it, we won the trial, and the judge should end this trial. That was donald trump moments after he stormed out of court today. The little dramatic flourishes are really all he has left as witnesses begin to flip on him. And judges start to penalize his thuggish behavior. Also tonight, meet your new house speaker, america. His name is mike johnson. Hes a leading Election Denier and extreme right wing religious id log, and most importantly, he loves him some trump. One of the heroes of january 6th joins me tonight, officer harry dunn talks about why accountability is so critically important for those responsible for one of the darkest moments in american history. But we begin tonight with one of the biggest concerns for any mob boss, the threat of members of the gang flipping on him. Once caught by Law Enforcement. Donald trump who has long emulated mob tactics and at one time characterized the new york crime families as very nice people has said he knows all about flippers. This whole thing about flipping they call it. I know all about flipping from the 30, 40 years, i have been watching flipping. Everything is wonderful, and they get ten years in jail and they flip on the next highest one. It almost ought to be outlawed. Its not fair. Ive had many friends involved in this stuff. Its called flipping. At the time, trump was referring to the deal his former lawyer Michael Cohen cut with prosecutors. Hush money to Stormy Daniels ahead of the 2016 president ial election. Fast forward to today in new york where trump and cohen faced off for a second contentious day in trumps civil fraud trial, which included trump storming out of the courtroom after being admonished by the judge. This week, by the way, is the first time the two have been face to face since cohen made that deal. When you look at, michael, what did you see . I saw a defeated man. I saw someone that knows that its the end of the Trump Organization, already found guilty of fraud. The license will ultimately be taken, and now this entire case is merely about how much. This is merely about how much discouragement the Attorney General will be seeking. Reporter cohen may not be trumps biggest concern right now. We told you about reporting that mark meadows may have flipped on his former boss. Meadows was reportedly granted immunity by special counsel jack smith in the federal election interference case to testify under oath. Nbc news has not confirmed that reporting, but if true, it would be catastrophic for trump given how involved meadows was in the conversations and efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. And what he might know about, i dont know, trumps mishandling of classified documents. Meadows attorneys have called the abc reporting, quote, largely inaccurate. Still, according to rolling stone, over the to the best of your memory, trumps allies and close advisers believed meadows was cooperating with the special counsel, referring to him in mob lingo as a rat. Trump lashed out at his potentially damming deal last night, again, referring to special counsel jack smith as a quote, deranged prosecutor, and claiming that any potential witnesses like meadows who made such a deal are weaklings and cowards. Fortunately for trump, the recent Gag Order Put in place by judge Tanya Chutkan in the federal election interference case have been put on hold. Otherwise those comments would be violation. The three codefendants took plea deals in the first week, bringing the total number to four, and its believed that more codefendants could follow suit. Cnn is reporting that prosecutors in the case have discussed potential plea deals with at least six additional codefendants, according to multiple sources. It is a concern that trumps legal team has been preparing for, having spent the past months trying to figure out which of the other 18 codefendants are likely to cut deals. Rolling stone reports as part of the effort, the former president s team has been digging into controversy of past communications and private documents related to some of these codefendants, targeting those deemed likely to flip and cooperate with prosecutors. The purpose of the research, according to the sources with knowledge of the matter has been to unearth materials that trump attorneys could use to undermine the credibility of these would be witnesses. Joining me now is suzanne craig, Investigative Reporter for the New York Times who was in the courtroom for trumps fraud trial. Tim obrien, Senior Executive editor of Bloomberg Opinion and a trump biographer. And glenn kirschner, former federal prosecutor and host of the Justice Matters podcast. Today was a bit dramatic, there was a 10,000 fine, and there was also admonishment of trump. Tell us about what happened . Yeah, it was pretty dramatic. It was quite a day, and its been building for a little bit. Donald trump has really zeroed in on both the judge, but in this case, more his clerk, and this is somebody who sits at the bench with donald trump, and the judge confers with. We have seen in the last few weeks ago there was an incident where donald trump posted a picture with this clerk where Chuck Schumer called her Chuck Schumers girlfriend, this really angered the judge, and trump was hit by the judge for that. He was criticized for it, and he was told to take the picture down. He did, but it surfaced that there was still a version of it on the internet and he got fined 5,000. And so then we walk into court this morning, and right away, it was interesting and you can just tell that this clerk has on their mind, Donald Trumps lawyer gets up, first thing in the morning, she says, you know, i have a sensitive or personal matter i would like to address the court with. She starts by saying i used to be a law clerk and the judge i worked for was really strict and then asked if people at the bench could not roll their eyes when shes talking. And so the judge right away didnt smile, there was no response, but he said, yes, thats fine. But it was right away you could see that the clerk was under their skin, and then donald trump, halfway through the day went outside and made a comment about the judge and how partisan the judge is, which is fair, within the gag order that he can criticize the judge, but then he said and the person sitting, you know, next to the judge is also very partisan, and the judge saw the comments. They were posted immediately by the wire services, and went nuts. And the implication, donald trump didnt say it, but he was referring to the law clerk, and this devolved into who was he referring to, and the judge came into court, and he was very concerned. He made open remarks saying he didnt want to get anybody killed. He was not concerned about it. And then all of a sudden, he calls donald trump up on the stand. Donald trump is going to be one of the last witness but this was not for him to be a witness in the case. This was too specifically speak to this issue. The judge very quickly was up and gone before anybody could even turn around but the judge asked him who he was referring to, his argument was it was Michael Cohen. It wasnt the clerk. The judge said he said exactly, he said as a trier of fact, i find this witness not credible, and donald trump was fined 10,000, and donald trump not long after stormed out of court. I dont think it was expected. The Secret Service went scurrying after him. It was quite a scene. He ended up coming back, but not happy. No one was happy. The judge was furious at him. And that is him storming out of the courtroom. We have that video that was up right now. Tim, why cant this man control himself . Because hes a 7yearold grown old, joy. That is not a mystery at all. You know, hes cornered, i think everything were seeing in this courtroom right now is performative. None of it is strategic legally. He wants to present everything thats happening in the court as targeted against him, as a sham, and lacking in merit so he can convince his supporters and the public that he is somehow the victim here, but it is completely running against what they should be doing to have a sympathetic judge who at the end of the day is going to be the one who imposes the penalty on the Trump Organization, and donald trump. He will determine the size of the fine. He will determine the extent to which the Trump Organization and the trump children can continue doing business in the state of new york. So i just think its day after day, were getting continued evidence of him as someone who feels cornered, and i think, you know, the video at the top of the show where he goes on and on about how miserable he feels that people are flipping against him, its worth remembering, you know, over 40 years ago, when donald trump first went into business in Atlantic City, he voluntarily approached the fbi and told them he would be willing to flip on other Casino Orders who may have mob ties in part because donald trump when he first entered Atlantic City entered in partnerships with mob partners on his own properties, but its also because he has no problem flipping himself when it serves him well. Hes aligned with Rudy Giuliani who made a clear as a u. S. Attorney by getting mobsters to flip on one another. Hes been around this his whole life. Hes upset now that all of these wheels are turning against him, he doesnt have the maturity, the temperament to handle it in a different way. And, glenn, the thing is it seems to me that cooperation with the government is like a snowball. People see other people cooperating and hold on, let me cooperate, and the deals dont get better. Its a race to get to the front of the line to get the best deal. The accumulation of potential flippers, including maybe mark meadows, we dont know if mark meadows has done that or if hes just cooperating. If youre jack smith, watching fani willis stack up these flippers, what does that do for your two cases . Yeah, well, its interesting because the more Codefendants Down In Georgia who plead guilty in connection with District Attorney williss rico case, the more that only strengths jack smiths prosecution because, you know, the rico crimes down in georgia are basically a smaller subset of what donald trump and his criminal associates and his coconspirators attempted to do in d. C. , overturn the results of a president ial election. So with each guilty plea, particularly guilty pleas with cooperation down in georgia, that is another opportunity for jack smith to hopefully import that good development. It would surprise me if some of the people who are Pleading Guilty down in georgia. Sidney powell and Kenneth Chesebro and jenna ellis have not communicated through their council with jack smiths team because if they are not envisioning revolving what i believe are the coming charges in d. C. , then theyre kind of foolish to just completely expose themselves to criminal liability in d. C. By Pleading Guilty in georgia. The flipping will continue. This will be a Textbook Rico Prosecution by fani willis. You can see shes knocking over certain dominos because theyre crashing into other domino. Looks like guys like john eastman might be the next to fall once Kenneth Chesebro, the other architect of the fake elector scheme fell, so shes executing the rico play book brilliantly, and, joy, its all going to the benefit of jack smiths prosecution in d. C. And susan, to go back, because youve got that case happening, but then in new york, its sort of trump has already essentially lost the case. It doesnt seem to be changing what hes doing in court and his strategy. To Michael Cohens point, the only question left is how much he has to pay. Is there any reporting on whether his lawyers are having some discomfort with his strategy, which seems to me to undermine the end result . Well, its interesting because i think a lot of this is definitely performative, but there is another audience here, and its the appellate court. Theyre going to appeal this, and i think theyre laying the groundwork for that on a number of fronts. I think that that is an important audience because at a certain point, he wants to run out the clock. He wants to drag this as long as he can through the upper courts. The other thing that i found very entrusting today, Michael Cohen, theres a lot of testimony from Michael Cohen. What was interesting about it, there were prosecutors there from the District Attorneys office, and they were there to watch. I would imagine they were there, but they were there watching because they were trying to see what sort of witness Michael Cohen is because he is going to be a key witness in the Stormy Daniels case, so theres a lot of eyes on this for different reasons, and i think those two things arent as talked about but are very important in this. And, tim, if mark meadows, who was the closest person to donald trump in the white house actually begins to cooperate with jack smith, you know donald trump, what does that do to his corpus mentis . Its another sort of block in the jenga block of Donald Trumps psyche, each little log being pulled out, it gets more tipsy, and he becomes more unstable. Its not clear to me the terms under which mark meadows is testifying. It sound like, you know, its not necessarily clear that he has flipped. He may be cooperating with the investigation, and have protective testimony, but may not have flipped. But, you know, with each one of these, as glenn pointed out, every time they move up the food chain and everyone gets picked off, and you get closer and closer to the head of the snake, as they say in Law Enforcement, it increases the pressure on him. And hes just not built, i think, as a person and a strategist to withstand this kind of pressure. Thank you all very much. 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This has been about one thing. This has been about who can appease donald trump. House republicans have put their names behind someone who has been called the most important architect of the Electoral College objections. He spearheaded. Thats fair, thats fair. We know how you feel. Youve made that clear. House republicans finally found a more palatable Election Denier to install as speaker. Maga mike johnson, the fourth choice for the job was elected today, 22 days after Kevin Mccarthy was deposed. First things first, who is the hell is congressman mike johnson. Last year the New York Times called him the most important architect of the Electoral College objections on january 6th. Johnson was instrumental in rallying 138 of his colleagues to join him in voting to overturn the 2020 election. He was a key architect of the independent state legislature theory, and led the effort to get republicans to sign on to a texas lawsuit to throw out electoral votes in pennsylvania, michigan, georgia, and wisconsin. Joson emailed every republican to solicit signatures and told them that donald trump will be anxiously awaiting the final list to review. He is as maga as jim jordan, just a little less streaming and bullying. They are good friend, by the way. Both served on the judiciary committee, and they have virtually identical voting records on everything from refusing to certify the 2020 election to rejecting 20th century voting rights, ensuring abortion accereauthorizing the violence against women t, bipartisan gun legislation, recognizing samesex marriage, no to all of those things, and thats before they both rejected aid to ukraine, and voted against diverting a government shutdown. In addition to voting against federal recognition of samesex marriage, hes written in support of criminalizing same sex relationships. And last year johnson proposed a nationwide version of the ron desantis dont say gay law. Republicans have installed an antiabortion zealot to lead the house. Heres johnson on a Abortion Care Access Last year. How about if a child is halfway out of the birth canal, is an abortion permissible then. Can you repeat your question. If a child is halfway birthed out of the canal, would you support the right for an abortion then . I cant even fathom that ever happening. Im not asking you if you fathom it, thats unrestricted aborti