That really good conversation. We appreciate it. That will do it for me on this edition of alex witt reports. Ill see you tomorrow again at one pm eastern. Up next, the beat weekend. He b. Welcome to the beat weekend. I am ari melber. Lets get right into the headlines. Jack smith making new pitch on behalf of the doj on what donald trump must be put on trial before the election. If that sounds like a familiar issue, just remember, jack smith has more than one case against Defendant Trump. The defendant was done and in Federal Court today watching as doj prosecutors argued for a july beginning to a trial and the other jack smith case. Billy and the way, we discussed a big coup case and the Supreme Court slowing that down. This is the classified documents case. You probably remember. Both and they are saying over at the doj there is nothing in their roles or process which prevents this trial, on the documents, from occurring and weeks even days before the election. Remember, it is trump as a defendant who has been killed in both cases. On the flip side, donald trump stame are saying they dont like the idea of this trial happening at all. They offered august as a possible date. We learned about that new Development Last night. It came to her in a filing. That was a change. Today in court, with donald trump sitting there, we saw all of this play out at the hearing. Heroes held a New York Times pageant. One possibility, accounting for the switch and the trump legal teams strategy, is that trumps lawyers for, quote, seeking to reduce the chances of there being time for the average ex matt case, the Election Case, to go to trial before election day in november. There is a lot of uncertainty here. You have, of course, a range of possible cases. Those are the two jack smith federal cases. There is also a possibility of a georgia r. I. C. O. Trial. Today, the judge there heard more arguments about whether or not theres a conflict to remove the d. A. Fani willis from that r. I. C. O. Case. Then you have trumps legal problems in new york. He goes on trial and the hush money case this month, we are in march now. That is coming. Up in just a few days, he has to start paying some of the hundreds of millions of dollars hes right up and penalties from the other cases. These four criminal trials are more than any president has ever faced. The civil cases have been huge impact on donald trump. I want to walk through some of that with you tonight. I will tell you straightup, some of this news happened over the course of the week. Here we are, for the night, its been so busy the Caucus Technique because trump is struggling to even come up with part of the cash cote for what he owes endless for cases. He revealed this week he wont or cant pay the Health Million dollar judgment and the fraud case in new york. His lawyers put at like this. It would be, quote, impossible to secure and post a complete bond. They say he might have to sell property to pay this penalty. That is them of telling the truth he doesnt or theyre trying to deceive a court about his money after a case where he was found liable for fraud, which is deceptions about money. That would be a bad look to say the least. Oh this is a blow to someone whos told a lot about being the king of debt and not count even post a full bond. I am the king of debt. Nobody knows it better than me. I liked it, for me. Ive made of fortune using debt. He liked it and in business there are ways of sophisticated investors and entrepreneurs can used it. He stands accused of fraud and a. Things that misuse of financial machinations. Other people have done it effectively. Im going to show you something if a truly multibillionaire person were facing this type of legal problem, say, elon musk, that wouldnt be haggling with the court about partial bond or delaying putting up the money. To be clear, and in fairness to donald trump, like any of a defendant, you are allowed to put up a bond to appeal the case and maybe the total amount will be reduced. Maybe the whole thing would be reversed. Elon musk wouldnt have the problem with putting up this bond for the purpose of appeal. Not only that, trumps problems this week, his lawyers say, we dont have it directly contradicts what his lawyers said as recently as last week about trumps supposed net worth. This guy is worth a lot of money. Billions and billions and billions of dollars. Of course he has money. He is a billionaire. They picked the wrong guy to pick on in my opinion. Hes strong, hes resilient, and he happens to have a lot of cash. He happens to have a lot of cash. Except he doesnt. Again, theres a difference between what lives on fox or in public and what i have to say and. Even if hes been delaying throwing things look at this statement from Trump Lawyers. Properties would likely need to be sold to raise the capital. In other words, they dont have it. Whatever the other lawyers, it it was not true according to the lawyers. Now the Attorney General is not just going to let donald trump slow walk this or lie about it in public. Her office has already put his team on notice that trump all but concedes he has insufficient liquid assets to pay, to solidify the judgment. Under new york law, that mains Letitia James can go ahead and sees things. For example, bank accounts. Take control of properties. Under the law, when you lose this kind of fraud judgment, when you defy it, it becomes a matter of what the Attorney General is willing to do. Shes been vocal about her intent. If he does not have funds to pay of a judgment, then we will seek Judgment Enforcement mechanisms and court. We will ask the judge to seize his assets. That is a big warning. On a week when donald trump got some good legal news from the federal side and the Supreme Court, hes now facing a lot of bad news which affect his business and power and his money. We know this also affects potentially his campaign. Because hes been taking funds that otherwise would go to Political Activities and campaign activities, rewriting them to cover his legal bills. Its or reluctant. Because of him. Not because of the a. G. , those are his bills to pay. In this campaign, at this crucial moment. Donald trump has a message this week he cannot pay up. He cannot even get that money to pay the full bond. I mentioned elon musk as one comparison a lot of people have dealt with legal problems and had to pay for bond. In fact, it is something papal with legal experience put openly about. Take 21 savage who said, i wear shades so they cant see when i pay the lawyers and the bond fees. They still ask him, cant you front me . 21 basically draw a contrast between people who need to be fronted and people like him who cant afford their bonds. Apparently thats something donald trump cant do. He would have to pay this bond, but the, way for a premium faith accompany. That can be about 3 of the judgment as the New York Times explained. Companies offering appeal bonds might be unwilling to take trumps properties as collateral if a building already has a mortgage or other creditors in one ahead of them. Trump has not just law fraud free look at. That 355 million is just the fraud of judgment. The bond i mentioned is only for that. Plus 100 million fraud interest. Plus the lawyer phase, which he has passed on to his donors. Plus the 83 million uc upfront from that defamation loss. We are tracking that as well. Ms. Carroll, who beat him twice in that case, says she now has serious concerns about trumps Cash Position and the visibility of collecting payment. Weve got someone who spent decades saying he has all this money. His lawyers last week saying he has lost money. Recent developments give rise to those concerns, as she writes in a filing. Trump tried to bat her with a judge on the fraud case. Again, i mentioned, we didnt get into this at one point early at this week, he said, what if instead of putting up 400 million, what if i give you 100 million instead of the full amount. That is not how things work. Very quickly, the judge said no , you lost, this is not a negotiation, this is not a thrift store and this is not some real estate deal like that once we are your front guilty of fraud. You owe the bond to cover the entire amount. As we enter the week, labor trying to take this all in and think about these comparisons. Donald trump cant pay his bond. Donald trump went in court, broad daylight this week, at much of that, and said what if i gave you a quarter of the bond. And the judge said no. We are approaching a baroque era of a potentially st. Louis broke real estate mogul that has more in common with comedy than traditional lawyering. I scanned your food and it comes to a gazillion dollars. Elmo has a trex and a go fish card. Im a baby you a 200. I can pay putin blocks. You are a baby, youre a man. Watch this . Bubble money. I want to make sure you get this is too much for me. Ill give you a fourth all the invoice. Maybe ill just pay you a quarter of it. That might be some real housewives stuff, it might be funny in other contexts. But the judge said this is not matter. Someone claims to be so rich and is running to be president , just said, of dont have, it could i give you a quarter of it . Thats where we are in the new case will trumps in court on the federal case and but look of all the trials i have in this. Here we want to take it all together molly jongfast is here to talk about all the cases. 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We are joined by vanity fair is molly jongfast, an msnbc analyst while welcome, happy friday, how are you . Good, good to be here i mean, what a montage happening. Well you are in good company. The sopranos, on a friday. I say its laughable, because that part is there are some issues here for, example of the valid bands, are a new and untested way to look at these issues. There are some issues that are debatable, the Supreme Court certainly can lawfully take a case. Although weve covered how, the way they are doing it is, questionable then there is the fraud stuff that is so dominionist, it is just, obviously the lawyers couldnt talk him out of, it any good lawyer could say if we go, in im a quarter of the, bond we looked ridiculous, and we will lose. Lets not do, it but they have a client who is insistent. And they lost very quickly. Im curious what you think about the substance of this. We hear so much about pr. Molly, what do you think about the substance of donald trump rerouting, donor funds to cover legal fees, while telling the new york court he is not good, for he doesnt have the bond . Well, whats incredible about this case, which i think is really interesting, is that donald trump has so gotten away with things for so long, he has been impeached twice. He has managed to bully the Republican Party into submission. Though you could see where he thinks okay, im just going to pay less. I get away with stuff like that every day. And so, i do kind of see his thinking here. I mean obviously, the idea that the court is the first time where donald trump has been treated the way Everyone Else has. I mean, even then, he has been able to delay, things he has been able to get the Supreme Court to look at things, which most people thought they would never look at. And so, i do think he has had a lot of success, but he is really a case study in what happens when you dont get held to the same account as Everyone Else. Yeah, exactly. And, i want to remind people, because this all happened during the, week quickly. While other stuff was going on. Its a big deal. This is from the filing about the hundred million. Again, he owes over 400. Trumps best Ownership Interest in new york real estate, ongoing oversight by, it would alone be sufficient, in the heading here, to adequately secure any judgment affirmed. Trumps bond would serve as further security. This is one of the, kind of the biggest self owns ive seen in a minute, and i wanted to translate, molly because its interesting. The lawyers are saying, he is so rich, he shouldnt have to pay, there is so much real estate. Well just give you the partial bond. And i mentioned this earlier, its not trump putting up 100 mill, its him asking to put up 3 of 100 mill to accompany, because he couldnt put up 3 before. Elon musk has had many new clashes, and whatever one thinks of him, he has the money, and we have seen that proven in various ways. And elon musk, a real multi billion, or wouldnt spend as much time and energy, spending lawyer fees or, never to haggle over what for him would be like yet, take it out of one of the many accounts. What do you think about the fact that donald trump is this tight, when i say tight, i mean he is this broke, in terms of real liquidity. And whats amazing about this is remember, Donald Trumps whole presidency is built on a lie that he has unlimited funds, that he is a Genius Businessman with billions of dollars, right. And again, this is where trump gets in real trouble with, Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump is not served by candidate trump. Like his numbers on the fraud case were much, much higher, because he was a candidate. He went in there and said i have a bazillion dollars. And if he had just gone in there and said i am sorry that we lied, and it was the wrong thing to do. I mean, even the judge said that if there had just been the tiniest bit of contrition. But instead, donald trump has decided that these court cases are really the same as rallies, that he is going because the base loves him in court. That this will somehow help him in a general. Now first of all, i actually dont think that will help him in a general, i think that swing voters dont like to see their president in court. I think it is a very stranges bargain to make. But i think he thinks that it helps them. And i think that he has had so many times where he has sort of gotten away with things, or then able to do this, that he is going to keep doing it. Back in a moment, with more of the beat, weekend. Moment, withf the beat, weekend. 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