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Hold primary i will be joined by all my colleagues here for special coverage as the polls close. Its right rahere on msnbc. I will be here starting at six x pm eastern. I will see you then. That does it for us tonight. Its oetime for the last word with lawrence odonnell. Good evening. We are going to get his reaction to that Supreme Court decision today, followed by Andrew Weissmann and the new guilty plea from trump world today. Allen weissenberg Pleading Guilty for perjury. Later in the hour, there is this very important turn we have seen in the Biden Administration toward Bibi Netanyahus government. With Vice President Kamala Harris publicly, anyway, leading the way in what is a break with the netanyahu governments policy, the Vice President yesterday unequivocally called for a ceasefire in gaza. It seems like a very important turn in the way the administration is handling this. Yeah, and, i mean, theres all sorts of interesting Politics Around it, but to me its signaled that i dont think the white house would be doing that, i dont think Vice President harris will be doing that if that was something that was impossible, at least that is sort of what my heart leapt to what i heard her say it, that if she is saying that, it must mean they think that it can happen. If they think it can happen, god hopes it will. We are just going to roll of what the Vice President had to say. She had a lot to say about it. Were going to see that later in the hour. Well, yesterdays republican primary has become the standard vote split of 63 to 33 , but this time, nikki haley got the 63 and donald trump got the 33 . It was in the smallest Republic Primary so far. It imwas in washington, d. C. In a city of 700,000 people, exactly 676 of them voted for donald trump. The reason that tiny vote is significant is that Donald Trumps t jury pool for special prosecutor jack smiths case against donald trump for his crimes leading up to and on january 6th will be taken. That jury will be taken from those 700,000 people who spent yesterday not voting for donald trump. The odds of one of the 376 trumplicans who did vote for donald trump in washington, d. C. Yesterday ending up on his jury there are worse than your odds with any Lottery Ticket you can find anywhere. The most important washington, d. C. Voters for donald trump, though, are, of course, the nine of voters on the United States Supreme Court. Yesterday, all nine of them agreed that donald trump, who three of the justices called, an with Breaking Insurrectionist, cannot be barred from president ial ballots on individual states by Section Three of the 14th Amendment. Section three of the 14th Amendment, as most of you know by now, barrs anyone who took an oath of office and then engaged in insurrection from ever Holding Office again. Donald trumps lawyers lost on several arguments that they presented to the court. They argue that the presidency is not an office. The Supreme Court ignored that argument. The Trump Lawyers argued that the president is not an officer of the government. The Supreme Court ignored that argument. Most importantly, the Trump Lawyers argued that donald trump did not engage in insurrection and that the attack on the capitol was not an insurrection. The Supreme Court ignored that argument and left standing the finding by the colorado Supreme Court that donald trump did indeed engage in insurrection. The Supreme Courts opinion simply said that the individual states are not allowed to enforce the provisions of Section Three of the 14th Amendment against candidates for federal office. The opinion said that the state of colorado could enforce Section Three of the 14th Amendment against candidates seeking state and local offices in colorado. The five republican men on the Supreme Court, two of whom were appointed by donald trump, extended their Majority Opinion far beyond what the nine justices were willing to agree on e in the essential ruling by indicating that the federal enforcement of the 14th Amendment would require the congress to pass implementing legislation. The three justices of the Supreme Court appointed by President Obama and coPresident Biden wrote a separate opinion of only six pages where they ey referred to donald trump as an oath Breaking Insurrectionist ec four times and said, quote, legislation of any kind, however are, is not required. Section three of the 14th Amendment is self executing, meaning that it does not depend on implementing legislation. Ketanji Brown Jackson and elena kagan said, quote, Section Three provides that what an oath Breaking Insurrectionist is disqualified, congress may by a vote of two thirds of each house remove such a disability. It is hard to understand by the constitution would require a congressional Super Majority to remove a disqualification if a single majority could nullify section 3s operation by repealing or declining to pass implementing legislation. It is worse than they know. It would not take a simple majority to decline to pass implementing legislation, to vote against implementing legislation. It would only take 41 out of 100 senators to block implementing legislation which, according tito the procedural rules of the United States senate, requires a 60 vote Majority Threshold to pass. So, if a group of 59 senators agreed on implementing legislation tomorrow for Section Three of the 14th Amendment, it could not become law. It could be blocked by 41 senators who support an Oath Breaking insurrection and want to see insurrectionists and want to see an oath Breaking Insurrectionist become rr president again. There are now 49 republican senators and only one of them, theyre retiring mitt romney, has said he reis opposed to the oath Breaking Insurrectionist donald trump becoming president again. That leaves 48 republican senators who would refuse to ever approve any implementing legislation for Section Three of the 14th Amendment. The last judge appointed to the court by donald trump, amy coney barrett, wrote her own paragraph concurring opinion, saying simply, i agree that states slack the power to enforce Section Three against president ial candidates. That principle is sufficient to resolve this case. I would decide no more than that. Justice barrett then added a second paragraph to her one page concurrence which did not have a single word of jurisprudence in it. It was e a political speech aim at the three other justices who agreed with her. The majority of five on the Supreme Court went too far in their opinion. Justice barrett, though she apparently agreed with those same justices, decided for political purposes that their ca language was too harsh. That is a political choice, now you jurisprudence your choice. In a political statement unlike any that i have ever seen in a Supreme Court opinion, Justice Barrett wrote, in my judgment, this is not the time to amplify disagreement with the stridency. In her view, no doubt stridency means using phrases like an oath Breaking Insurrectionist to describe donald trump. Justice barrett continued. The court e has settled a politicallycharged issue in the volatile season of a president ial election, particularly in this circumstance, writings on the court should turn the National Temperature down, not up. For present purposes, our differences are far less important than our unanimity. All nine justices agree on the outcome of this case. That is the message americans should take home. Its written not like a Supreme Court justice, but like a political Speech Writer the message americans should take home. Justice sotomayor and Justice Kagan and Justice Jackson highlighted the wild inconsistency of the Roberts Court by quoting chief Justice Roberts himself who wrote this when he joined the Majority Opinion in overturning roe v. Wade. Quote, if it is not necessary to decide more to dispose of a case, then it is not necessary to decide more. The three justices then said, that fundamental principle of Judicial Restraint is practically as old as our republic, yet the Court Continues on to resolve questions not before us. In a sensitive case crying out for Judicial Restraint, it abandons that course. Today, nsthe majority goes beyo the necessities of this case to limit how section 3 can bar an oath Breaking Insurrectionist from becoming president. Although we agree that colorado cannot enforce Section Three, we protest the majoritys efforts to use this case to define the limits of federal enforcement heof that provision because we would decide only the issue before us. We concur only in the judgment. Today at the florida club where donald trump cannot afford to live without charging other people money to use his home, the oath Breaking Insurrectionist thanked the Supreme Court for their opinion and then spent most of his time asking the court for another favor to grant him total immunity for any form of criminal prosecution for crimes that he may have committed while he was president. In fact, most of his statement was begging for that criminal immunity. He did say this about todays opinion. Frankly, they worked very quickly on something that will be spoken about 100 years from now and 200 years from now, extremely important. Well, he is absolutely right about that. It will be spoken of in history classrooms 100 years from now and 200 years from now where he will, if the country remains lucky for the next couple of centuries, be identified as the only former president in history who was once blocked from president ial ballots by states invoking Section Three of the 14th Amendment and those History Classes will all note that the Supreme Court opinion which allowed him access to the ballot repeatedly referred to him as an oath Breaking Insurrectionist. Leading off our discussion tonight is professor Laurence Tribe who has taught Constitutional Law at Harvard Law School for five decades. Professor tribe, thank you so much for joining us tonight. I have to confess this one required me to read and reread it, especially the concurrence is which read like dissents. Ive had to remind myself, no, they are agreeing with the ultimate vote here. Can you clarify for us what the contest is here between the four and five in the majority and referee for us who is right here . I will do my best, lawrence. In this case, the Court Appears to the naked eye to be deciding something nine to nothing, but when you peel back the appearances, it is really a 5 to 4 decision about a fundamental principle, a principle about the viability of Section Three of the 14th Amendment, a crucial protection for the country against oath Breaking Insurrectionists. The decisive fifth vote in the 5 to 4 split, i add, was the same as the decisive fifth vote in bush versus gore. It was Clarence Thomas who some people believe had no business taking part in the case. Let me set that aside. The key question is, what is the big difference between what all nine justices agree, namely colorado alone should not be able to make this decision, and what only five justices believed, and that is that, at unless you have implementing legislation by congress, the ban in the 14th Amendment against Office Holding by oath Breaking Insurrectionists, that ban who is going to be effective . The constitution explicitly says that you need two thirds of the house and two thirds of the senate to lift the ban and enable an oath Breaking Insurrectionist to hold office. The five justice majority in this case said, no, we are going to rewrite that for various reasons. We are going to rewrite it to say that, unless you have legislation that requires, as you point out, not just a majority of the senate, but given the Filibuster Rule requires a Super Majority of the senate plus a majority of the house, unless you have that legislation, you cannot enforce this provision. An oath Breaking Insurrectionist can hold office as long as minorities of the congress are on that insurrectionist side. That turns the 14th Amendment upside down. It rewrites it without any defense in the text or the history or the purposes of the 14th Amendment. What was the problem that led these five justices to turn the 14th Amendment upside down that way . Well, it was something which appealed to all nine justices, the idea that colorado alone or any other individual state should not be able to make this decision on its own. When that was brought up in the oral argument, the lawyer for the voters who challenged donald trump said, no, we are not saying that colorado should have the last word. We are saying that you, the supreme, a federal institution, should have the last word. You should exercise it by reviewing the decision of the colorado Supreme Court, carefully reasoning the elaborate explanation of why what happened in this case was an insurrection and why donald trump engaged in it. Based on a trial whos fairness not a single one of the nine justices questioned in which donald trump had ample opportunity to present evidence, so all of the Supreme Court needed to do to avoid allowing anyone state to impose a rule on the nation or to impose what it thought would be chaos to 50 different states going 50 different ways was to remember something that this court normally emphasizes. It is the Supreme Court of the United States. All they have had to do was affirm the decision of the colorado court, saying there is ample evidence here in a trial which was fully fair and applied constitutionally appropriate standards, ample evidence to disqualify this oath Breaking Insurrectionist. In other words, they couldve gone in either of two directions and theres only one possible region reason for going in the direction they did. That was that they were doing a favor to both Breaking Insurrectionists, in particular, one donald de trump. That is not the way a court should behave yes, 100 years now, that is still going to be a lesson in how court should not decide cases. It will be a lesson in how a court by a 5 to 4 decision can fundamentally destroy the constitutions deliberate protection against Supreme Court<\/a> decision today, followed by Andrew Weissmann<\/a> and the new guilty plea from trump world today. Allen weissenberg Pleading Guilty<\/a> for perjury. Later in the hour, there is this very important turn we have seen in the Biden Administration<\/a> toward Bibi Netanyahus<\/a> government. With Vice President<\/a> Kamala Harris<\/a> publicly, anyway, leading the way in what is a break with the netanyahu governments policy, the Vice President<\/a> yesterday unequivocally called for a ceasefire in gaza. It seems like a very important turn in the way the administration is handling this. Yeah, and, i mean, theres all sorts of interesting Politics Around<\/a> it, but to me its signaled that i dont think the white house would be doing that, i dont think Vice President<\/a> harris will be doing that if that was something that was impossible, at least that is sort of what my heart leapt to what i heard her say it, that if she is saying that, it must mean they think that it can happen. If they think it can happen, god hopes it will. We are just going to roll of what the Vice President<\/a> had to say. She had a lot to say about it. Were going to see that later in the hour. Well, yesterdays republican primary has become the standard vote split of 63 to 33 , but this time, nikki haley got the 63 and donald trump got the 33 . It was in the smallest Republic Primary<\/a> so far. It imwas in washington, d. C. In a city of 700,000 people, exactly 676 of them voted for donald trump. The reason that tiny vote is significant is that Donald Trumps<\/a> t jury pool for special prosecutor jack smiths case against donald trump for his crimes leading up to and on january 6th will be taken. That jury will be taken from those 700,000 people who spent yesterday not voting for donald trump. The odds of one of the 376 trumplicans who did vote for donald trump in washington, d. C. Yesterday ending up on his jury there are worse than your odds with any Lottery Ticket<\/a> you can find anywhere. The most important washington, d. C. Voters for donald trump, though, are, of course, the nine of voters on the United States<\/a> Supreme Court<\/a>. Yesterday, all nine of them agreed that donald trump, who three of the justices called, an with Breaking Insurrectionist<\/a>, cannot be barred from president ial ballots on individual states by Section Three<\/a> of the 14th Amendment<\/a>. Section three of the 14th Amendment<\/a>, as most of you know by now, barrs anyone who took an oath of office and then engaged in insurrection from ever Holding Office<\/a> again. Donald trumps lawyers lost on several arguments that they presented to the court. They argue that the presidency is not an office. The Supreme Court<\/a> ignored that argument. The Trump Lawyers<\/a> argued that the president is not an officer of the government. The Supreme Court<\/a> ignored that argument. Most importantly, the Trump Lawyers<\/a> argued that donald trump did not engage in insurrection and that the attack on the capitol was not an insurrection. The Supreme Court<\/a> ignored that argument and left standing the finding by the colorado Supreme Court<\/a> that donald trump did indeed engage in insurrection. The Supreme Court<\/a>s opinion simply said that the individual states are not allowed to enforce the provisions of Section Three<\/a> of the 14th Amendment<\/a> against candidates for federal office. The opinion said that the state of colorado could enforce Section Three<\/a> of the 14th Amendment<\/a> against candidates seeking state and local offices in colorado. The five republican men on the Supreme Court<\/a>, two of whom were appointed by donald trump, extended their Majority Opinion<\/a> far beyond what the nine justices were willing to agree on e in the essential ruling by indicating that the federal enforcement of the 14th Amendment<\/a> would require the congress to pass implementing legislation. The three justices of the Supreme Court<\/a> appointed by President Obama<\/a> and coPresident Biden<\/a> wrote a separate opinion of only six pages where they ey referred to donald trump as an oath Breaking Insurrectionist<\/a> ec four times and said, quote, legislation of any kind, however are, is not required. Section three of the 14th Amendment<\/a> is self executing, meaning that it does not depend on implementing legislation. Ketanji Brown Jackson<\/a> and elena kagan said, quote, Section Three<\/a> provides that what an oath Breaking Insurrectionist<\/a> is disqualified, congress may by a vote of two thirds of each house remove such a disability. It is hard to understand by the constitution would require a congressional Super Majority<\/a> to remove a disqualification if a single majority could nullify section 3s operation by repealing or declining to pass implementing legislation. It is worse than they know. It would not take a simple majority to decline to pass implementing legislation, to vote against implementing legislation. It would only take 41 out of 100 senators to block implementing legislation which, according tito the procedural rules of the United States<\/a> senate, requires a 60 vote Majority Threshold<\/a> to pass. So, if a group of 59 senators agreed on implementing legislation tomorrow for Section Three<\/a> of the 14th Amendment<\/a>, it could not become law. It could be blocked by 41 senators who support an Oath Breaking<\/a> insurrection and want to see insurrectionists and want to see an oath Breaking Insurrectionist<\/a> become rr president again. There are now 49 republican senators and only one of them, theyre retiring mitt romney, has said he reis opposed to the oath Breaking Insurrectionist<\/a> donald trump becoming president again. That leaves 48 republican senators who would refuse to ever approve any implementing legislation for Section Three<\/a> of the 14th Amendment<\/a>. The last judge appointed to the court by donald trump, amy coney barrett, wrote her own paragraph concurring opinion, saying simply, i agree that states slack the power to enforce Section Three<\/a> against president ial candidates. That principle is sufficient to resolve this case. I would decide no more than that. Justice barrett then added a second paragraph to her one page concurrence which did not have a single word of jurisprudence in it. It was e a political speech aim at the three other justices who agreed with her. The majority of five on the Supreme Court<\/a> went too far in their opinion. Justice barrett, though she apparently agreed with those same justices, decided for political purposes that their ca language was too harsh. That is a political choice, now you jurisprudence your choice. In a political statement unlike any that i have ever seen in a Supreme Court<\/a> opinion, Justice Barrett<\/a> wrote, in my judgment, this is not the time to amplify disagreement with the stridency. In her view, no doubt stridency means using phrases like an oath Breaking Insurrectionist<\/a> to describe donald trump. Justice barrett continued. The court e has settled a politicallycharged issue in the volatile season of a president ial election, particularly in this circumstance, writings on the court should turn the National Temperature<\/a> down, not up. For present purposes, our differences are far less important than our unanimity. All nine justices agree on the outcome of this case. That is the message americans should take home. Its written not like a Supreme Court<\/a> justice, but like a political Speech Writer<\/a> the message americans should take home. Justice sotomayor and Justice Kagan<\/a> and Justice Jackson<\/a> highlighted the wild inconsistency of the Roberts Court<\/a> by quoting chief Justice Roberts<\/a> himself who wrote this when he joined the Majority Opinion<\/a> in overturning roe v. Wade. Quote, if it is not necessary to decide more to dispose of a case, then it is not necessary to decide more. The three justices then said, that fundamental principle of Judicial Restraint<\/a> is practically as old as our republic, yet the Court Continues<\/a> on to resolve questions not before us. In a sensitive case crying out for Judicial Restraint<\/a>, it abandons that course. Today, nsthe majority goes beyo the necessities of this case to limit how section 3 can bar an oath Breaking Insurrectionist<\/a> from becoming president. Although we agree that colorado cannot enforce Section Three<\/a>, we protest the majoritys efforts to use this case to define the limits of federal enforcement heof that provision because we would decide only the issue before us. We concur only in the judgment. Today at the florida club where donald trump cannot afford to live without charging other people money to use his home, the oath Breaking Insurrectionist<\/a> thanked the Supreme Court<\/a> for their opinion and then spent most of his time asking the court for another favor to grant him total immunity for any form of criminal prosecution for crimes that he may have committed while he was president. In fact, most of his statement was begging for that criminal immunity. He did say this about todays opinion. Frankly, they worked very quickly on something that will be spoken about 100 years from now and 200 years from now, extremely important. Well, he is absolutely right about that. It will be spoken of in history classrooms 100 years from now and 200 years from now where he will, if the country remains lucky for the next couple of centuries, be identified as the only former president in history who was once blocked from president ial ballots by states invoking Section Three<\/a> of the 14th Amendment<\/a> and those History Classes<\/a> will all note that the Supreme Court<\/a> opinion which allowed him access to the ballot repeatedly referred to him as an oath Breaking Insurrectionist<\/a>. Leading off our discussion tonight is professor Laurence Tribe<\/a> who has taught Constitutional Law<\/a> at Harvard Law School<\/a> for five decades. Professor tribe, thank you so much for joining us tonight. I have to confess this one required me to read and reread it, especially the concurrence is which read like dissents. Ive had to remind myself, no, they are agreeing with the ultimate vote here. Can you clarify for us what the contest is here between the four and five in the majority and referee for us who is right here . I will do my best, lawrence. In this case, the Court Appears<\/a> to the naked eye to be deciding something nine to nothing, but when you peel back the appearances, it is really a 5 to 4 decision about a fundamental principle, a principle about the viability of Section Three<\/a> of the 14th Amendment<\/a>, a crucial protection for the country against oath Breaking Insurrectionist<\/a>s. The decisive fifth vote in the 5 to 4 split, i add, was the same as the decisive fifth vote in bush versus gore. It was Clarence Thomas<\/a> who some people believe had no business taking part in the case. Let me set that aside. The key question is, what is the big difference between what all nine justices agree, namely colorado alone should not be able to make this decision, and what only five justices believed, and that is that, at unless you have implementing legislation by congress, the ban in the 14th Amendment<\/a> against Office Holding<\/a> by oath Breaking Insurrectionist<\/a>s, that ban who is going to be effective . The constitution explicitly says that you need two thirds of the house and two thirds of the senate to lift the ban and enable an oath Breaking Insurrectionist<\/a> to hold office. The five justice majority in this case said, no, we are going to rewrite that for various reasons. We are going to rewrite it to say that, unless you have legislation that requires, as you point out, not just a majority of the senate, but given the Filibuster Rule<\/a> requires a Super Majority<\/a> of the senate plus a majority of the house, unless you have that legislation, you cannot enforce this provision. An oath Breaking Insurrectionist<\/a> can hold office as long as minorities of the congress are on that insurrectionist side. That turns the 14th Amendment<\/a> upside down. It rewrites it without any defense in the text or the history or the purposes of the 14th Amendment<\/a>. What was the problem that led these five justices to turn the 14th Amendment<\/a> upside down that way . Well, it was something which appealed to all nine justices, the idea that colorado alone or any other individual state should not be able to make this decision on its own. When that was brought up in the oral argument, the lawyer for the voters who challenged donald trump said, no, we are not saying that colorado should have the last word. We are saying that you, the supreme, a federal institution, should have the last word. You should exercise it by reviewing the decision of the colorado Supreme Court<\/a>, carefully reasoning the elaborate explanation of why what happened in this case was an insurrection and why donald trump engaged in it. Based on a trial whos fairness not a single one of the nine justices questioned in which donald trump had ample opportunity to present evidence, so all of the Supreme Court<\/a> needed to do to avoid allowing anyone state to impose a rule on the nation or to impose what it thought would be chaos to 50 different states going 50 different ways was to remember something that this court normally emphasizes. It is the Supreme Court<\/a> of the United States<\/a>. All they have had to do was affirm the decision of the colorado court, saying there is ample evidence here in a trial which was fully fair and applied constitutionally appropriate standards, ample evidence to disqualify this oath Breaking Insurrectionist<\/a>. In other words, they couldve gone in either of two directions and theres only one possible region reason for going in the direction they did. That was that they were doing a favor to both Breaking Insurrectionist<\/a>s, in particular, one donald de trump. That is not the way a court should behave yes, 100 years now, that is still going to be a lesson in how court should not decide cases. It will be a lesson in how a court by a 5 to 4 decision can fundamentally destroy the constitutions deliberate protection against Office Holding<\/a> by oath Breaking Insurrectionist<\/a>s. I can only imagine Harvard Law School<\/a> students eyes widening 100 years from now and you have years from now when they read this case. Professor Laurence Tribe<\/a>, thank you very much for starting off our discussions tonight. Thank you. Coming up, Donald Trumps<\/a> long suffering and fully humiliated accountant Allen Weisselberg<\/a> pleaded guilty today to perjury in a case brought by District Attorney<\/a> alvin bragg who will begin the first criminal prosecution of donald trump in manhattan three weeks from today. Donald trump told a judge in new york that he just cannot afford to pay the 91 Million Dollar<\/a> judgment which she owes the e. Jean carroll. Thats next with Andrew Weissmann<\/a>. Andrew weissmann. im getting vaccinated with pfizers Pneumococcal Pneumonia<\/a> vaccine. So am i. Because im at risk for Pneumococcal Pneumonia<\/a>. Come on. I already got a pneumonia vaccine, but im asking about the added protection of prevnar 20\u00ae. 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Weisselberg admitted to lying under oath to the new York State Attorney<\/a> general when he was investigating donald trump for business fraud. A judge has imposed a penalty of 454 million against donald trump in that case of business fraud. Weisselberg will be sentenced for perjury on april 10th. Allen weisselberg already served time at new york citys Rikers Island<\/a> jail for tax fraud for a Trump Company<\/a> scheme which paid Allen Weisselberg<\/a> in ways that donald trump and Allen Weisselberg<\/a> hoped Would Escape Taxation<\/a> by giving Allen Weisselberg<\/a> a luxury apartment in a Mercedes Benz<\/a> and other benefits. The Perjury Prosecution<\/a> of weisselberg comes as a warning to any other trump friendly witnesses who could be testifying in the first criminal prosecution of donald trump led by alvin Braggs Office<\/a> which will begin in manhattan on march 25th, exactly three weeks from today. In that case, donald trump is criminally charged with keeping false Business Records<\/a> to illegally conceal hush money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels<\/a> to purchase her secrecy. Prior to the 2016 president ial election in a conspiracy to prevent voters from hearing Stormy Daniels<\/a> a story of the night she spent having sex with donald trump while Donald Trumps<\/a> third wife was pregnant. Donald trump continues to struggle under the over half A Billion Dollars<\/a> in civil judgments against him in new york, including 83. 3 Million Dollar<\/a> judgment awarded to e. Jean carroll, plus interest. E. Jean carroll was raped by donald trump according to the verdict rendered by donald trump in that civil case. In the filing, they asked the judge in the e. Jean carroll case, luis kaplan for, quote, an unsecureds of execution, and quote. Knowing how unlikely that is, the lawyers went on to say, even if the court doesnt grant an unsecured stay, it shared the very least should grant a partially secured stay in an amount substantially reduced from the 91 point 63 million otherwise required. The amount of bond Donald Trumps<\/a> lawyer suggested instead of 91 million was 24 million. Joining us now is Andrew Weissmann<\/a>, former fbi General Counsel<\/a> and former chief of the Criminal Division<\/a> of the Eastern District<\/a> of new york and coauthor of the new book the trump indictments, the historic charging documents with commentary. Andrew, i want to begin with the weisselberg guilty plea. That was the breaking news of the day. There were indications it might be coming, but here it is. Listening to your description right now, you are sitting there thinking, wait a second, this person is running for president and is actually going to get the nomination from a lead in party . Its unbelievable. Lets just turn to Allen Weisselberg<\/a>. Allen weisselberg has left completely to donald trump. He was the long term cfo, chief Financial Officer<\/a> to the Trump Organization<\/a>. He pleaded guilty to a Tax Fraud Scheme<\/a> of over a dozen years. The Trump Organization<\/a> itself was convicted at trial just last year in the manhattan d. A. s office. He is pleading now to to actual perjury counts, to lying in the Civil Fraud Case<\/a> where donald trump and, by the way, Allen Weisselberg<\/a> were found civilly liable for fraud. You have that in addition to being a defendant there and be unfounded liable, he also now is a defendant for lying in the attorney generals civil case. I mean, this is an array of crime. Everything ive talked to you about, including the criminal actions that he pled to, his current political actions, he has been paid by the Trump Organization<\/a> millions of dollars. At no point did they cut him off saying, wait, we cant have a criminal on our books. We cant be paying somebody like this. No, he has been paid millions of dollars by the Trump Organization<\/a>. That is an example of hush money, not just the money that went to Stormy Daniels<\/a>. That was money for him to be toeing the line and not flip on donald trump and the Trump Organization<\/a>. Andrew, as every lawyer and a litigant is supposed to know, there are many reasons to be nice to your judge, including the fact that someday might be asking something from that judge that might be within that judges jurisdiction, like, hey, instead of the 91 million, can i give you 24 million . Donald trump is asking that of a judge who he insulted at every opportunity he got. So, judge kaplan is an adult. The insult itself would not make a difference. They cant help. Hes good enough that he thought it was meritorious. He would look past that. You have somebody here who has not been forthcoming about his financial records and has given no reason to think that he would not stiff e. 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Vice president Kamala Harris<\/a> has several times traveled to selma, alabama, for the annual commemoration of what is remembered as bloody sunday, the day in 1965 when civil rights protesters, including young john lewis, were savagely beaten by Police Officers<\/a> in a march, asking for nothing more than the full rights of citizenship granted to us all by the constitution. Vice president was in cellmate yesterday, 59 years after that bloody sunday, and she began her speech with us surprise heard around the world. Before i began today, i must address the humanitarian crisis in gaza. What we are seeing every day in gaza is devastating. We have seen reports of families eating leaves or animal feed. Women giving birth to malnourished babies with little or no medical care, and children dying from ill nutrition and dehydration. As i have said many times, too many innocent panelist indians have been killed. And just a few days ago, we saw hungry, desperate people approach aid trucks, simply trying to secure food for their families after weeks of nearly no aid reaching northern gaza. And they were met with gunfire and chaos. Our hearts break for the victims of that horrific tragedy and for all the innocent people in gaza who are suffering from what is clearly a humanitarian catastrophe. People in gaza are starving. The conditions are inhumane. And our common humanity compels us to act. Our common humanity is always the issue and the commemoration in selma every year, our common humanity was shocked in this country 59 years ago when a tv news show the violence done willfully by the government of alabama to people marching for their rights. Yesterday, the Department Of Defense<\/a> carried out its first airdrop of humanitarian assistance and the United States<\/a> will continue these airdrops. We will work on a new route by sea to deliver aid. The Israeli Government<\/a> must do more to significantly increase the flow of aid. No excuses. They must open new border crossings. They must not impose any unnecessary restrictions on the delivery of aid. There, the Vice President<\/a> of the United States<\/a> became the public strongest voice of the biden harris administrations now strained relationship with israeli Prime Minister<\/a> benjamin netanyahu. The Vice President<\/a> insisted that israel had a right to retaliate against hamas. Hamas has shown no regard for innocent life, including for the people of gaza, who have suffered under its rule for almost two decades. Hamas still holds dozens of hostages burned nearly 150 days now, innocent men and women, including american citizens, who are brutally taken from their homes and from a concert. Then, the Vice President<\/a> voiced the biden harris administrations most significant public break with the policies of Prime Minister<\/a> netanyahu. Given the immense scale of suffering in gaza, there must be an immediate ceasefire. For at least the next six weeks, which is what is currently on the table. This will get the hostages out and get a significant amount of aid in. This would allow us to build something more enduring. To ensure israels secure and to respect the right of the Palestinian People<\/a> to dignity, freedom and self determination. Hamas claims it wants a cease fire. Well, there is a deal on the table. As we have said, hamas needs to agree to that deal. Lets get a ceasefire. Lets reunite the hostages with their families. Lets provide immediate relief to the people of gaza. Today, at the white house, the biden harris administration, in a move followed closely by avery israeli, went around Prime Minister<\/a> netanyahu to meet with a member of the israeli war cabinet, benny gantz, who was the leader of the opposing party to netanyahu in israel. That is an unprecedented white house meeting during a crisis in israel. Benjamin netanyahu did not want that meeting to happen. The New York Times<\/a> reports that netanyahu, quote, had not approved mister gantz has traveled to washington. An official in mr. Netanyahus office spoke on the condition of anonymity, said mister gantz did not represent the government on his trip to washington and insisted that the Prime Minister<\/a> continue to enjoy open communication with mr. Biden. Joining us is david rothkopf, Foreign Affairs<\/a> for the daily beast. He is also the host of the deep state radio putt cast. David, it seems like a pretty important turn, public turn, by the white house on something we have every reason to believe was happening privately, which was the insistence on a ceasefire. Heres the Vice President<\/a> saying publicly, it has to happen. Yeah. Her emphasis, her tone, was quite different from that which we have heard before from other senior officials. I think she has been leading the way Behind The Scenes<\/a> and, now, at the microphone, for the administration, to emphasize how important it is to address the humanitarian catastrophe that is unfolding there. I dont think there is daylight between her and the president on this. I do think she is playing a remarkable role, really, at the center of this. It began in december when she gave an important speech in dubai, talking about the day after in gaza, included this meeting in selma. Of course, she is the one who met with dance today in washington. So, she is at the center of this , which is, right now, one of the two most important Foreign Policy<\/a> challenges the administration faces. What do israelis here in the Vice President<\/a> s Speech Yesterday<\/a> and, possibly more portnight, what do israelis see in their media when they see the Vice President<\/a> meeting with benny gantz . I think the intention of the Biden Administration<\/a> is that israel see that the Admission Administration<\/a> seeks to be friends with israel, to support israel, to support the hostages, to stand up to hamas, but the Biden Administration<\/a> is running out of patience with netanyahu, who they dont view as trustworthy, and his policies in gaza, frankly, have become utterly brutal and intolerable. I think the israelis see exactly what you described, which is the Biden Administration<\/a> granting a white house meeting to the opposition leader, that it has not been willing to grant to the Prime Minister<\/a>. As we go forward, its very clear that this is the new Biden Administration<\/a> position, a ceasefire now, ceasefire now. What happens if netanyahu continues to ignore that position . If netanyahu ignores it, or, indeed, if hamas ignores it, and there is no cease fire and we have ramadan beginning on march 10th, thats kind of the deadline that everybody has had in, mind what you could see is a rapid deterioration in this humanitarian situation. That could be catastrophic for the people of gaza. Also, for u. S. Policy in the region, for israel. Thats why she is now talking about, you know, opening up ceilings, providing aid via the sea, more aid via airdrops, pressuring the israelis for more corridors via which track it can be delivered. Because i think this is the thing that has really captured everybodys intention attention right now. We could see a worsening of this crisis that has already been intolerable so far. David rocca, thank you very much for joining us tonight. My pleasure. Coming up more from Vice President<\/a> harris. Fundamental freedoms under assault. The freedom to vote, the freedom from fear, violence, harm. The freedom to learn. 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In this moment, we too are confronted with the fundamental question, what kind of country do we want to live in . Those Vice President<\/a> harris speaking yesterday at the 59th annual commemoration of the civil rights march across the Wettest Bridge On Alabama<\/a> that ended on a Wild Spree Of Criminal Conduct<\/a> by alabama Police Officers<\/a> illegally beating civil rights marchers and almost beating john lewis to death. Today we now our Fight For Freedom<\/a> is not over because in this moment, we are witnessing a fullon Attack On Heart<\/a> fought, hard won freedoms. Starting with the freedom that unlocks all others, the freedom to vote. The sacred freedom to vote. Across our nation, extremist attack the integrity of free and fair elections. Causing a rise of threats in violence against poll workers. Today in states across our nation, extremist propose and passed laws that attack the freedom of a woman to make decisions about her own body. Laws that would make no exception even for rape or incest. Here in alabama, they attack the freedom to use ivf treatment. Women and couples denied the ability to fulfill their dream of having a child. Consider the irony, on the one hand, these extremists tell women, they do not have the freedom to end an unwanted pregnancy. On the other hand, these extremists tell women they do not have the freedom to start a family. Joining our discussion now is congresswoman lisa rochester, candid for the United States<\/a> senate in delaware this year in 2024. Congresswoman rochester, what we just heard from the Vice President<\/a> sounds like something we are repeatedly going to be hearing during this president ial campaign. Youre a coach in the biden harris campaign, this issue of In Vitro Fertilization<\/a> seems to have helped frame what republicans are trying to do with personal freedoms that we all thought we were going to be able to enjoy. Well, first of all, lawrence, its good to be back with you. Especially talking about something as important as our freedoms. I have to say, Vice President<\/a> harris gave a powerful speech and really drawing that analogy between protecting and defending our right to vote, all the way to the ability to do with our bodies as we choose. Its one of the reasons why i am running for the senate, is to stand up and fight for the spray times. You know, for may, its also personal. I have never really talked about this before, but my son and my daughter in law had bare child through ivf. So, this is my granddaughter, lennox. Lennox was born through ivf. There are so many families out there who, as she said, this is a dream. To have, on the one hand, again, extremists who are trying to tell you when you can and cannot have a child and then, on the other hand, prevent those who want to have a child, the think that is in common, is control over womens bodies. As we vote to this election, people really have to think about what republicans say versus what they do. You can say that you support different things, but we saw the dobbs decision. You can say you support ivf, but senators just voted against senator Tammy Duckworth<\/a> voted to protect idf and as you look at the slippery slope, what is next . Birth control. To me, this is a moment for us to say, are we going to go with folks who are taking away our freedoms or are we going to defend them . Especially as john luce did on that bridge. Could you hold up that picture of that miracle baby again, your granddaughter . I think for people who arent familiar with the process of ivf and how difficult it can be for some couples. Some couples get lucky and go through the process once. Not an easy process no matter how often you go through it. Some couples have to go through that process several times over a number of years in order to get to that wonderful points where a grandmother like you can hold up that picture. What does it mean for families and couples who are in the middle of the process . Theyre in the middle of the process in alabama and the government says to them, you cant do this, not for another day. First of all, my son and daughter in law, they actually documented their process on social media to help, you know, other couples going through it. As you said, actually, christmas two years ago, had a miscarriage and was able to try again. Lennox was born. Shes a rainbow baby. Just celebrated her first birthday. To those families out there, the thought of not just the families, but the folks who are working in the fertility clinics, the folks who might have to transport, you know, embryos, this puts beer on them that should not be. It should not be. Again, for those of us who have the ability to protect and codified these rights, thats what we have to do. Thats why im running for the senate. This is about our fundamental freedoms. All the way from the right to vote to the right to choose what you will do with your body. Its privacy. Its a medical decision. I have said repeatedly repeatedly. I say all the time. There is no room in our rooms for politician its. There just isnt. The senate, as you know, is trying to pass up federal law that protects In Vitro Fertilization<\/a> in all 50 states, so that no couple in america ever has to worry that what happened in alabama can happen to them and republicans are blocking it every single time. All they need, as you know, in that senate procedure, is to have one republican stand up and block it and that blocks the vote. That one republican is standing up for every single republican in the United States<\/a> senate who opposes guaranteeing to couples the ability to do this. Yeah. Again, i always say, dont look at what somebody says, look at what they are doing. They have this opportunity now. Im hearing people say, oh, i support ivf. This is different. The idea that we could have a national ban on abortion, the idea that we could have these kinds of limits and fear for families that are trying to go through ivf, and then, potentially, what happens with Birth Control<\/a> . Again, this is one of the reasons why it is important to have representation as well in the senate that is diverse and reflects the experiences, the lived experiences, of women across this country. Its one of the reasons why i am fighting to go to the senate and for anybody whos interested in joining this movement, go to lisa Blunt Rochester<\/a>. Com. We need you. Congressman rochester, if you get to the senate next year, i hope you can bring lenox at least one day to meet republican senators who are blocking a guaranteed to all American Families<\/a> that they could have access to this procedure, if they need it. You know, i plan to bring lennox. Should i make it. I also hope someday to be able to pass the baton onto her, on to the next generation. Again, this is why this moment is so pivotal in our country, because it truly is about our fundamental freedoms. Well, you know, we have seen the pictures of the families on the date when the new senators are taking their oaths of office. I think a lot of people tonight are going to be hoping to see lennox on that senate floor in the picture next year. Thank you. Thank you, lawrence. Representative lisa Blunt Rochester<\/a>, thank you very much for sharing your family story with this very difficult process and whats happening in alabama. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. Thank you. Congresswoman lisa Blunt Rochester<\/a> gets tonights last word. The 11th hour with Stephanie Ruhle<\/a> starts now. With Stephanie Ruhle<\/a> starts now. Tonight, the Supreme Court<\/a>s decision to put donald trump back on the ballot. The ruling coming down on the same day trumps Election Interference Trial<\/a> was supposed to begin. Plus, looking ahead to super tuesday with more than a dozen states voting. What is at stake for donald trump, nikki haley, and President Biden<\/a> . Hes an","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"archive.org","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","width":"800","height":"600","url":"\/\/ia600205.us.archive.org\/7\/items\/MSNBCW_20240305_030000_The_Last_Word_With_Lawrence_ODonnell\/MSNBCW_20240305_030000_The_Last_Word_With_Lawrence_ODonnell.thumbs\/MSNBCW_20240305_030000_The_Last_Word_With_Lawrence_ODonnell_000001.jpg"}},"autauthor":{"@type":"Organization"},"author":{"sameAs":"archive.org","name":"archive.org"}}],"coverageEndTime":"20240707T12:35:10+00:00"}