Without objection. I see my time has expired, and i yield back. The gentle lady yields back. Mr. Hur, why did joe biden willfully retain and disclose classified materials . He knew the law. Been in office, like, 50 years, five decades in the United States senate, chairman of the Senate Foreign relations committee, and eight years as Vice President , and he got briefed every day as Vice President. He has been in the situation room. In fact, you know he knew the rules because you said so on page 226. President biden was deeply familiar with the measures taken to safeguard Classified Documents. Joe biden told us he knew the rules. Mr. Armstrong said this earlier, joe biden was deeply familiar with it, and you are exactly right, he told us, when jack smith goes after donald trump, biden said how does that happen . Its irresponsible. Joe biden told us he knew the rules, so mr. Hur, why did he break them . Congressman, the conclusion as to exactly why the president did what he did is not one that we explicitly address in the report. The report explains my decision to the Attorney General that no criminal charges were warranted in this matter. I think you did tell us. I think you told us, mr. Hur. Page 231, you said this, President Biden had strong motivations. Thats a key word. We are getting the motive now. President biden had strong motivations to ignore the proper procedures for safeguarding the Classified Information in his notebooks. Why did he have strong motivations . Next word, because he decided months before leaving office to write a book. To write a book. That was his motive. He knew the rules and broke them because he was writing a book, and he began meeting with the ghostwriter while he was still Vice President. Theres the motive. Mr. Hur, how much did President Biden get paid for his book . Off the top of my head, i am not sure if that information appears in the report. Sure does. Theres a Dollar Amount in there. Do you remember . It may be 8 million. Joe biden had 8 million reasons to break the rules. Took Classified Information and shared it with the guy writing the book. He knew the rules but he broke them for 8 million in a book advance. But you know what, it was not just the money. Next page, joe biden in your report, joe biden viewed his notebooks as a irreplaceable he had written this all down for the book, for the 8 million. The next thing you say in your report is, quote, such a record would buttress his legacy as a world leader. You know what this is . It was not just the money. Not just 8 million. It was also his ego. Pride and money is why he knowingly violated the rules. The oldest motives in the book, pride and money. Do you agree with that, mr. Hur . You wrote it in your report. That language does appear in the report and we identified those assessments. You also said joe biden i want to make sure i get this right, views himself as a man of president ial timber. Do you remember that statement . I believe that appears in the report, at least the executive summary. This is interesting, because heres the scary part. Page 200, and i said it earlier in the opening statement, page 200, joe biden, this is a quote, joe biden risked serious damage to Americas National security when he shared information with his ghostwriter. Shared it with his ghostwriter, the guy that was helping joe biden get 8 million. By the way, mr. Hur, what did that ghostwriter do with the information President Biden shared he slid, if i remember correctly, he slid those files into his recycle bin on his computer. Tried to destroy the evidence, didnt he . Correct. The very guy helping joe biden get the 8 million, and the motive for joe biden to retain and disclose Classified Information, which he definitely knew was against the law, and when you get named Special Counsel, what does that guy do . He destroys the evidence. Thats a key takeaway in my mind. Thats a key takeaway. I yield back. Now the gentleman from maryland for five minutes. Thank you, mr. Chairman. Mr. Hur, your report says no criminal charges, and you highlight the independence and support you got from the tkapblg. You have changed your mind about that . I have not. The report describes President Bidens cooperation, he allowed homes to be searched and answered questions, and do you have any reason to change your mind about that . No. You said most notably after given multiple chances to return documents and avoid prosecution, he not only refused to return the documents for many months but also obstructed justice by insisting others to destroy evidence and then lie about it. Do you have any reason to change your judgment between the differences between President Bidens cooperation and the former president s noncooperation. I continue to stand by those words in my report. And then constitutional high crimes and misdemeanors, and then giving us The Soaring Powerful Historical Analysis and the most skilled Ninja Hecklers were on full display at the State Of The Union last week for the whole country to see. Its a distraction from the 91 federal and state federal charges that donald trump faces now, his staggering civil court losses in new york now totaling more than half a billion, and his full blown embrace and romance with authoritarian dictators and communist tyrants all over the world, from Vladimir Putin to the dictator of korea. This, my friends, this is a memory test. Its not a memory test for President Biden. Its a memory test for all of america. Do we remember fascism . Do we remember naziism . Communism and totalitarianism . Have we not forgotten the sacrifices of our parents and grandparents . When we play pin the tail on the donkey, and its declared if we sleepwalk into another trump presidency, President Trump will, quote, not give a simple a single penny to ukraine. Thats what all of this is about. Its about trying to pull the wool over the eyes of america. Who wins with the embarrassing spectacle . Putin wins, xi wins, the tyrants of the whirlwind. They have one more reason to celebrate donald trump and his Cult Followers who completely lost their way. They are looking for high crimes and misdemeanors, and now they appoint themselves amateur Memory Specialists and thats what they pounce on the former President Trump, and the president laid it out in the State Of The Union, Will America Stand on the side of people struggling against fascists aggression, and stand with the people of ukraine against Vladimir Putin, whose filthy war meant the kidnapping of thousands of ukrainian children, the murder and slaughter of thousands of ukrainian civilians and the attack on an independent sovereign democracy . But we are not working on that today. We are not standing up for human rights and International LawAround The World. No, we are trying to play Memory Detectives to parse the language of a president who the whole world got to see at the state of the Union Address directly address the real questions of our time, and its democracy versus dictatorship. All of the autocrats and all of the cleptocrats the gentlemen yields back. Mr. Comer is recognized for five minutes. We identified a number of employees involved in the mishandling of Classified Documents under the leadership of President Biden. Special counsel hur, can you tell us how many current and former white house employees you interviewed during your investigation . I dont have that figure immediately at hand. It was a subset of the 173 interviews we conducted in our investigation. You indicate one of the employees you interviewed was dana remus. Yes. And she was represented by white house counsel, right . She was president obamas former white house counsel. Okay. You wrote in may of 2022, remus took an effort to retrieve bidens files from the biden center, and that was to prepare for the potential enquiries about the biden families from 2017 to 2019. It seems odd to me that dana remus and joe bidens personal lawyers were obtaining documents about the activities, when joe biden publicly claimed he had no involvement with his familys business dealings. Can you provide more information about why she would be obtaining the documents i am not in a position to go beyond that. When you interviewed President Biden, did you ask him what documents he possessed that could be related to a potential congressional inquiry about his activities, and did anything pertain to our inquiry that you recall . If you have specifics, that would be helpful . In relation to his familys peddling activities . If its helpful, chairman, appendix a does list in table chart form a list of the documents recovered in our investigation. We intend to interview ms. Remus, and can you confirm that you did record her in your interview. It was our practice to record the interviews. And you learned from a biden employee, did you interview tamanasini in the course of your investigation . Not that name, but we did interview the director of the oval office operations. The oversight interview interviewed a former assistant to President Biden, and she visited the biden center in 2022, and this was month before Classified Documents were found in November Of 2022. Did you interview kathy chung in the course of your investigation . I believe the substance related to the subject you are asking about appears on page 259 of the report, and while kathy chung did not appear in the report, there was a footnote 988. Dana remus, Anthony Vurdol and Ashley Williams visited the biden center before the discovery of the classified materials in November Of 2022. Did you interview these individuals during your investigation . We interviewed many individuals. I can assure you, chairman, that we it was a priority of ours to interview all the relevant sources of the documents and how they got there and who could access them. So again, there would be recordings . It was our practice to interview record interviews, yes, sir. I dont have an exact count how many visits to the biden center were made by bidens personal attorneys before the official discovery of documents in November Of 2022 . I dont have that on hand but it is in the report, sir. I yield back. Mr. Hur, anytime you need a break, if you need a break, let us know, because it will go for a while, as you well know. The gentle lady is recognized. Good morning. Good morning. The republicans here ask for a lot of transcripts, but chair jordan has yet to release 90 plus transcripts from our interviews, and with those, are they to be released to the American People is the question. My question to you is you decided, based on the facts, not to prosecute or indict or bring forward charges against the president of the United States, the sitting president , joseph biden, is that correct . That was my judgment. This investigation was independent and thorough, is that correct . Yes. We have heard from our republican colleagues, who are grasping at straws, allegations that President Biden was treated lightly in this investigation. With just a plain reading of the report completely refutes that argument. There was no twotiered justice, and your office and the fbi undertook the extensive investigation into mr. Bidens handling of Classified Information and the documents the fbi seized, correct . Correct. You conducted 173 interviews, correct . Correct. And President Biden was one of those witnesses, correct . Correct. For at least five hours or more . Correct. And President Biden engaged in the interview voluntarily, correct . Correct. And it occurred, the interview occurred a day after the horrific attack in october 7th, 2023, hamas attack in israel, is that correct . The interview spanned two days, october 8th and 9th. He provided coherent answers to questions, correct . I dont recall the president being in and out during our interview let me go on. And President Biden allowed investigators to search his private houses, is that correct . He did consent to the search of his residents . You collected 7 million documents for your review in your investigation, correct . Correct. This included emails, toll records and other records from classified and unclassified sources, correct . Correct. You reviewed President Bidens handwritten notes as well, correct . Correct. And you coordinated with a multiple Government Agencies to organize and complete your investigation, correct . We consulted with numerous agencies to right, and that included working with National Security experts in the Intelligence Community to carefully analyze each Classified Document that was obtained . Yes, we submitted exerts for classification review. You classified it as a higher level for the purposes of your investigation. Is that reflected in the appendix thank you. Attorney general garland appointed you as Special Counsel over the matter, correct . Correct. President bidens home, delaware as many any matters that rose from the initial investigation or arose from the i believe that accurately reflects the language of the appointment order. You conducted an investigation for about a year, and you conducted 173 interviews, including President Biden himself, and you reviewed 7 million documents including President Bidens personal records and in the thorough and lengthy investigation, you did not uncover enough evidence to recommend prosecution against the president , is that correct . Thats my judgment. If you found enough evidence to warrant prosecution, did you feel free, unrestrained, unrestrained by the Attorney General appointed by President Biden to make such a recommendation to the Attorney General . I was aware of the office of Legal Counsel policy right now, prohibiting sitting president s being charged with federal crimes, but apart from that, what i can tell you, congresswoman, is the investigative steps we took was my own and the judgment was my own and the words in the report are my own. The time has expired. I would like to put in the record yes, without objection. Mr. President , why did you share Classified Information with your ghostwriter . The president , i did not share Classified Information. I did not share it. I guarantee, i did not. Thats not true, is it mr. Hur . Thats inconsistent with the findings in my report. Its a lie is what regular people would say, right . Yeah. So the next one, all the stuff in my home was in Filing Cabinets that were locked or able to be locked. That was not true either, was it . That was inconsistent with the findings of my investigation. Another lie people might say, right, and in your report you said among other documents in the garage was a damaged open box. You find in your report the elements of a Criminal Federal Investigation are met, and then you have a i think you get to the right answer in that, i dont think biden or trump should have been charged, but under the senile cooperator theory, isnt it frustrating that President Biden goes out and continue to lie about the facts in the report that would lay out a criminal i found all the elements were met. I would not be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury that that intent the reason you have that doubt is the senile cooperator theory, the fact that joe biden is so inept in responding you cant rely on the intent, and biden goes out there at the white house and says, you know, he just blatantly lies. What i am trying to figure out is biden is lying because he is still so senile or if its a little more devious and perhaps a little more intentional than we might otherwise think . I want to go to the Biden Penn Center. Did it give concern to you that the Biden Penn Center where all this classified stuff was being handled was being floated by other foreign governments . We were concerned about all the Classified Documents recovered what bothers me is the mo