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MSNBCW Morning July 4, 2024

Good morning, welcome to morning joe. Its wednesday, march 13th. We have so much more to get to with that hearing yesterday on capitol hill. Democrats pressed the former Special Counsel on his language about President Bidens memory while republicans wanted to know why the president wasnt charged. Meanwhile, also on capitol hill, today the who house is expected to vote on a bill that could lead to a ban on one of the most popular apps in america. Well explain that legislation. Well also get analysis on the alarming comments from russian president Vladimir Putin this morning about the threat to use nuclear weapons. Hes saying that if russias sovereignty or independence is threatened, he will use nukes. Good morning, everybody. Along with willie and me, we have the host of wasteway, bureau chief at politico jonathan louisiana mere. Msnbc contributor Mike Barnacle and jonathan martin. Great group this morning. Also has President Biden announced a new Weapons Package for ukraine. According to u. S. Officials, the package will include Artillery Shells and ammunition, antiarmor weapons, antiaircraft missiles and spare parts. Defense Officials Say this is a onetime arrangement made possible through savings in longterm contracts with weapons makers. With foreign aid funding stalled on the hill, the Biden Administration working to find creative ways to help ukraine as the country faces dire Weapons Shortages in its fight against russia. And willie, this along with the news just a few hours ago about Vladimir Putin threatening to use nuclear weapons, you have to wonder what the administration is thinking was, maybe very concerned stepping right over congress to get that aid to ukraine. Funding for ukraine is an urgent matter underlined yesterday by polands Prime Minister. He spoke to reporters outside the white house following a meeting that lasted about an hour and 40 minutes saying he hopes House Speaker johnson will realize inaction could cost thousands of lives in ukraine. Quote, this is not some political smirmish that only matters here in america. The ab sebs of this decision will really cost thousands of lives there. Children, women, he must be aware of his personal responsibility. Thats the polish Prime Minister directly talking to mike johnson in getting this money. This 300 million is an ad hoc way to go about it. They found some money. They are going to get it to ukraine. Its not the longterm solution to funding ukraine. Is there any movement to get congress on board . Its a help, but its in a drp in the bucket. This comes in a moment where President Biden and polish Prime Minister made this Push Yesterday to say, look, we need to get this funding to ukraine. The world has rattle lid behind it. But if the United States falls short, russia is going to continue to advance. Ukraine has had some success with drones, but on the battle thefield itself, they are running out of ammunition. And russia has been able to make slow but steady progress here. Were going to get a report from capitol hill shortly. Theres this Discharge Petition starting to circulate to circumvent Speaker Johnson to get a vote cast to get this aid package done. Its seen unlikely to succeed. And if that did you want happen, were going to keep seeing the white house and the Administration Try to find these creative ways. President ial Trau Drawdowns and they will ship it to kyiv, but thats not going to be enough and thats going to run out. Its wild to hear, we have our internal fights, but you hear it from the polish Prime Minister who is on the border, who feels this conflict and knows the Ukrainian Government and its people so well. To say directly to Speaker Johnson, hey, you have to do spg. You have to do it now. Women and children are going to die because of your inaction. Were not embroidering the situation for ukraine. Its life and death for the country of ukraine. Ukraine has a real Personnel Problem when it comes to the military. In addition to all the Weaponry Problems that they have, for the lack of resources, their army, the average age in the field right now im told is nearly 40s. Russia can just keep throwing personnel, which they have been doing, at a colossal casualty rate. The ukrainians need help and were sitting on our hands. To mikes point, and mentioning poland, poland has inspres in whats going on here. They have a shoired story. They took in millions of refugees, and the leaders of poland are here now in washington meeting with the president and meeting with Congress Making the case for that aid and making it loud and clear. Lets turn back politics at home. The general election rematch between President Biden and former President Trump is essentially official this morning. Thats because nbc news is projecting both men have enough delegates to win their partys nominations following their latest primary wins. President biden was projected to become the presumptivive democratic nominee after a win in the Georgia Democrat you can primary. Hours later, donald trump was expected to secure his spot after winning the republican primary in washington state. After last nights wins, President Biden issued a long statement arguing the threat trump poses is greater than ever. He wrote, donald trump is run ing a campaign of resentment, revenge and retribution that threatens the very idea of america. Voters now have a choice to make about the future of this had country. Are we going to stand up and defend our democracy or let others tear it down . Will we restore the right to choose and protect our freedoms or let extremists take them away . The president continued, i believe the American People will choose to keep us moving into the future with every crisis america has always emerged stronger and more unite the on the other side. This november will be no different. I believe we will do it together. Meanwhile, in a fourminute video, former President Trump celebrated the results and went after joe biden. This was a great day, a victory. Last week was something very special. Super tuesday. But now we have to get back to work because we have the worst president in the history of our country. His name is joe biden. And he must be defeated. Nbc News National Political Correspondent Steve Kornacki is looking at how things might play out for the biden and Trump Campaigns between now and november. Steve . The rematch is on. Its trump biden part two. Lets take a first look at the road to 270. Whats the Playing Field look like . This is how we ended up in 2020. The trump states in red. The biden states in blue. It added up to 306 electoral votes for joe biden. The first thing to note is that math would be different, even if biden won all the same states and trump won all the same states because we had the census. We had reapportion the. And that changes the number of electoral votes in sol states. So if you apply the new electoral vote totals from the census, that same combination of states now only gives biden 303. Trump at 235. A net gain of 3 electoral votes in the trump states because of the the census. So thats based on 2020. The question is whats the battleground here . The obvious battleground would be the five states that donald trump carried in 2016 but then joe biden flipped and won in 2020. Thats wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, georgia, and arizona. Those five states. If the Trump Campaign wants to be on offense in these state, needs to flip these states. The math can vary. Lets go through the simplest path. It would be to take the closest of the five states. The two that were the closest were georgia, arizona at 10,000 votes or is so. So if trump were able to win georgia, 251. If he added arizona, 262. Still not enough even with those two states to hit 270. Mean figure he wins back the two closest that he lost in 2020, he needs to add one of these three, wisconsin, michigan or pennsylvania. Which was the closest in 2020 . It was wisconsin. You can see if wisconsin were to join the other two, trump would just clear 270. That would then be enough if he didnt lose any other states that he won. Thats the other big question here are there any other stats on this map that the campaigns can succeed putting in play that we dont think of as being in play now. The one democrats would like to put in play is North Carolina. North carolina is a pretty big state. 16 electoral votes. Margin had come down for trump one of those times, but it was reduced in 2020. Poll this week put trump up 5 points. A lot of people think its a pipe dream for democrats to win it, but they are going to try. If they were to succeed to show you again, look what that does to the Electoral College math. Now you have trump winning back two states. But not carolina, biden would still win in the Electoral College there. That would be flipping a trump state. Well see if the democrats can do that. Well see if republicans can succeed in doing it. Its only our first look. Steve kornacki, thank you. So jonathan martin, theres no mystery here. This is michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, georgia will be fighting. But we know where this race is going to be decided. We have an oughtmonth road to get there. Strap in. Its predictable where its going to be fought. Less predictable in the contours of the race, but i think arizona and georgia were probably the biggest surprises for biden four years ago. I think its going to be tough for him to hold on this time in both states. Pennsylvania, of the three great lake states, probably the best one for biden right now. Michigan and wisconsin a but tougher. I thinks thats where the action is mostly are those three great lake states. Biden holds on there and he wins, he loses the three states or any one of them, trump probably wins. I dont think its more complicated than that. Theres not much of a path otherwise. A reflection of the priorities is the candidates time. He was in pennsylvania over the weekend. Hes Vuted Pennsylvania by far than any other states. He heads to michigan and wisconsin today. Looking at the map there, theres one state democrats think they can flip. They acknowledge arizona is going to be harder this time. Georgia is going to be harder. Some worries about nevada. North carolina, though, a state where Abortion Rights will be on the ballot. Now the republicans have nominated a Conspiracy Theorist for governor. So much of this is pure demography. You tell me the demographics of a certain state, i can probably tell wow you had who is going to win. North dakota, much more Working Class, dramatically fewer collegeeducated voters. Theres not a big upsill suburb in las vegas. Very different in North Carolina. You have two Population Centers in charlotte and raleigh with a ton of collegeeducated voters, who historically were Bush Republicans and are up for grabs. Thats why the biden folks feel better about North Carolina and more concerned about nevada. So g, North Carolina, michigan, whats going on with the democrats and the black vote . I think its more of a gender issue than a racial issue. Democrats have a profound challenge with men of all races. Especially Working Class men. Its not just Working Class white men. I think they have a problem with Working Class africanamericans and hispanics. Why . I think part of it is just pure cultural politics. Men tend to be more Instinct Yulely conservative regardless of race. Margins matter in this election. A 5 of black men inwalk or detroit stay home or vote for rfk jr. , thats a profound threat to biden. Now potentially with Aaron Rodgers as his rubbing mate. Wisconsin up for grabs. Were going to talk more about that. Aaron rodgers on the short list to be Vice President. An active nfl player. Also Something Interesting in georgia. We said it might be trending a little trumps way. There was a poll that had him within the margin of error, but it was interesting to watch last night. Collegeeducated republicans, a lot of them still went for nikki haley last nugt. She stole about 70,000 protest votes. Donald trump won by just under 12,000 last time. That will be an Interesting Group to watch. They are trying to force feed the pill to the dog. The dog wont take the pill. The primary is over. Shes dropped out of the race. They still wont take the pill. And that gets to the heart of trumps challenges that places like kolb county, which were once the Beating Heart of the realignment in the 70s and 80s. They have now flipped back. This is neutral district. And they simpy toeblt the want to vote for the trump version of the gop. Not sure they are sold on biden, but they are still gettable. Finally, one other aspect we can talk about later is how his legal cases impact the election moving ahead now that it started in earnest. The judge in the carroll case approved 91 million that trump put town for his appeal. Did he defame her again . Will there be Another Civil Defamation Trial . And he should be in court in two weeks for the porn star hush money case. If his delay effort doesnt work, donald trump has to be in court for that hearing all the details of the case against him coming out. It will be interesting to see how that plays into all of this well talk about it a little later on morning joe. Still ahead, house lawmakers are set to vote opt a bill today that could ban the popular social media app tiktok. Would the legislation get anywhere in the senate . Also ahead, democratic senator warnock joins us on the heals of georgias results last night. Well also be joined by two Democratic House lawmakers who are pressing the president and Party Leaders to focus on Border Security ahead of november. And well get to yesterdays highstakes hearing with Special Counsel robert her. There seemed to be one agreement, both were dissatisfied with his answers yesterday. Youre watching morning joe. Were back in just one minute. G were back in just one minute. Welcome back. Its 17 past the hour. House lawmakers grilled former Special Counsel robert hur for more than four hours yesterday into the investigation of the handling the of classified documents. Standing by the conclusions he outlined in a report last month that biden should not be criminally charged and that the president demonstrated severe Memory Problems while being interviewed. Yesterday the House Democrats accused the trump appointed prosecutor of showing partisanship in his report. While republicans tried to get hur to admit the president is senile. Base odden your report, did you find that the president was senile . I did not. That conclusion does not appear in my report. Unfortunately, you are part of the guard that guards the swamp out here in washington, d. C. Protecting the elites. Joe biden is part of that company of the elites. Joe biden broke the law. Because hes a forgettable old man who would appear sympathetic to a jury, he chose not to bring charges. We get to this glaring double standard. The fact that the only person being prosecuted happens to be the president s political opponent make this is an unprecedented assault on our democracy. House republicans maybe desperate to convince america that White Conservative men are on the losing end of a twotiered justice system. A theory that appeals to the maga crowd that has no basis in reality. You said to President Biden, you have appear to have photographic understanding in recall of the house. Did you say that to President Biden . Those words do appear on page 47 of the transcript. Photographic is what you said. Is that right . That word does appear on page 47 of the transcript. Never appeared in your report though. Is that correct . That does not appear in my report. I now want to show you and play a video of what is absolutely not photographic. In the failing New York Times by an

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