Driver at gunpoint and fled to new jersey where he was tracked to a home in trenton but somehow managed to slip out of the home but was eventually apprehended nearby. Joining me now nbc news correspondent george solis on the scene in trenton, new jersey. George, what can you tell us now . That the suspect has been apprehended. Reporter yeah, learned about this within the last 20 minutes that this individual, this 26yearold accused of killing three of his Family Members somehow managed to slip by the s. W. A. T. Presence here and not to mention state police and fbi agents who had a presence here and was apprehended. Without incident were told basically give up and is now in police custody. However, whether or not he was apprehended with any weapons that he may have had at him at the time of his surrendering. Now what were seeing is report of the dismantling of the scene. Theres still the Police Presence and police tape here and we have seen some of the officers actually in the Background Congregating presumably they will go ahead and clear this scene within a little while and im told the mayor is also here within the vicinity being briefed about all of this here about where the suspect was apprehended and his connection to the area. If i can reset the scene for you a little bit. Authorities from bucks county telling us lethis began with a carjacking here in the trenton area earlier this morning before he crossed over into pennsylvania into bucks county. And carried out these three alleged murders. Then he also carjacked an individual in pennsylvania stealing a honda crv panel an suvtype before dumping it off here in the trenton neighborhood and barricading himself inside this home. Authorities telling me there were no more hostages and it was just him inside the home and he was believed to be alive for some time but obviously were learning from all this, before the whole perimeter was set up. The 26yearold suspect somehow slipped by police and apprehended here in the trenton area. Not very far where this has been taking place. The more pressing questions where was he islanding out and how hid degette out and why of course he carried out the three alleged murders. Jonathan. George, just to reiterate again, did police say in the information that you got whether they found a weapon on andre gordon . Reporter yeah, thats a question that we are asking and we have not received an answer at this avpoint. They are only telling us he was taken into custody without incident. All right, nbc news george solis coming to us live from trenton, new jersey. Thank you very much for that report. Lets bring in dr. Errol suthers a former fbi special agent. Former fbi s. W. A. T. Team member and professor of the practice in national and Homeland Security at the university of southern california. Dr. Suthers, thank you for being here. Andre gordon had been holed up in that house on Phillips Avenue since about 12 20 p. M. Eastern time. How did he manage to slip out to another location with all that Law Enforcement presence on the ground and drones in ther air . Jonathan, thats a very good question. What i would have to assume is that he was not holed up in the house initially. When he went initially and startled everybody inside the resident and as police were responding and people were trying to get out that he likely walked out before the house was secure certainly before the perimeter was secure and may have actually walked amongst the people the residents in the neighborhood as they were being evacuated. He may have walked amongst them to a safe location where everybody assembled. Im going to assume he was not in the house for very long and he has the presence of the mind to get out of there before the perimeter was set up and unfortunately didnt take anybody else hostage or hurt anyone else in the process. And as weve said, andre gordon, the suspect, was apprehended alive. What do you think went into maybe not the negotiations to end the standoff. But how i mean, he was apprehended alive. The question is whether there was a weapon on him or not. But how did we get to a peaceful resolution in this situation . Well, as was mentioned previously, patience certainly if there was a conversation had with him, trying to reason with him. Unfortunately, everyone he killed today had some relationship to him. So it seems that he was very intent on harming people that he knew. And not harming anyone else. Even in the carjacking and the other crimes that he committed along the way. So it also appeared that he did not want to take his own life or be killed by the police. Theres a conversation that you can have and they obviously did have if hehe was still in there with him to reason with him there was no need for any other persons to lose their lives much important most importantly him. And to come out alive. And unfortunately, he was already gone. But thats the kind of conversation you would have with a person like that. Is empathy and trying to reason with them to give up. Dr. Suthers, the suspect is reportedly homeless. So im just wondering, how might have he gotten an ar15 and from whom . That will be the question everyone will need to answer right off and thats how this all started. As you put this forensic information together as now we look toward prosecution, it will start with a trail and a timeline with a the very first crime which was the carjacking. Was he armed and was he armed with the alleged weapon that we described. How did he get it and was it purchased legally . Was it obtained illegally and as you mentioned he was an unhoused individual. Did he have the resources to obtain a weapon like that . Was it taken in one of the other crimes . So this is going to be a very important question to how he obtained that weapon and most importantly, aphow was it used along the way with regards to the Killing Spree that happened this afternoon. All right. Dr. Errol suthers, thank you very much hfor coming to The Saturday Show and lending your perspective on this Breaking News saturday. Up next, up next republicans are left scrambling as their Impeachment Probe against President Biden runs on fumes. What The White House is demanding now and how House Speaker mike johnson is responding. Congressman mike nsgarcia joins me live with his reaction. And later, an historic visit by Vice PresidentKamala Harris and why it could be a defining moment in the 2024 campaign. Much more ahead on this sunday show. The saturday show. Next. 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Does it does it reach the high crimes treason high crimes Misdemeanor Standard . Everyone will have to make that evaluation when we pull all the evidence together. Joining me now is Robert Garcia, member of the House Oversight committee and house Homeland Security committee. Thank you for coming to The Saturday Show. I see you shaking your head. Articulate your reaction to the speakers comments there. I mean, look, it is time for the Impeachment Sham to be over. I mean, mike johnson can barely keep a majority and republicans retiring right and left. Weve known from day one that this entire impeachment stunt has been about damaging President Biden and helping donald trump get reelected. And like hes noted, the you know, long list of witnesses that have been brought for Wardended Up Being chinese spies and disgraced former mafia bosses and Business People that are in jail and Rudy GiulianiConspiracy Theorists so this whole thing has been a complete joke. Its time to move forward and really glad that The White House sent that letter because we have essentially wasted months and months and months of time we can actually be doing work for the american people. On essentially this donald trump expedition and i want to remind people as well, this entire impeachment stunt started with Marjorie Taylor greene and actually filed the initial impeachment papers against President Biden. So this is all the far right extreme magas trying to damage the president. But its time to move on. Like day two of the biden presidency . Right. So congressman, New York Times and politico reported that House Republicans are looking for some type of backup plan including issuing criminal referrals against biden and his inner circle. How can they issue criminal referrals without any evidence at all that the president committed a crime . Well, first lets not forget that the modern Republican Party doesnt doesnt really care about evidence anymore or facts. Or truth. They are completely worked in their world view of doing whatever it takes to support, you know, their orange king. Donald trump. And i mean, that is what they are obsessed about. So the facts dont matter. And weve been arguing and myself included, if were going to talk about real corruption or real crime, then republicans need to look in the mirror and start investigating Jarred Kushner who we know got a 2 billion payout from the saudi government and actually starting to put together much larger Land Acquisition deals with other foreign governments. This is someone who had complete access and worked in The White House. This whole impeachment effort is a project. What happened in the trump white house, the president is trying to do his job. This Impeachment Sham is over. I think mike johnson needs to do the right thing and just move on. We have a lot of work to do. And you have been one of the members of congress who keeps trying to shine the spotlight on Jarred Kushner when it comes to alleged corruption. So congressman, lets switch gears and talk about tiktok. Because on wednesday, the house passed with an overwhelming bipartisan majority passed a bill that would force tiktoks chinese owner bytedance to either sell tiktok or face a ban in the United States. The Driving Reason is that the Social Media Platform poses a National Security risk. You voted against the bill. Does that mean those National Security concerns are overblown. Why did you vote no . Yeah, i mean, i joined, you know, 50 other democrats and also i joined the highest ranking democrat on the intelligence committee. Who made very clear that there was not yet any sort of National Security concern over our data and the Chinese Government. Who of course are adversaries and of course were competitive with but lets be real honest about whats happening. We have an app that 170 million americans use. Onethird of allamerica are on tiktok and yes, there are real data privacy concerns but thats the case on every platform whether its meta and facebook whether its x. We saw what happened on facebook and the last election cycle and so this idea that were going to target this one Social Media Platform without yet any direct evidence that our data is being manipulated by the Chinese Government i think was the absolute wrong approach. I vote at strong no and its really important at this moment that we focus on data broadly. But to single out the app is particularly the main space where young people are communicating every day i think is a huge not just policy mistake, its also a huge political mistake. So im urging the senate to slow this down. This was the fastest moving bill that i have seen in my one year in congress and from what i hear, from a more veteran members, they dont remember a bill moving so fast through the floor. So i am very concerned. We all share the Data Concerns but theres a better approach than what we just did. Yeah. As im a nonmember of congress. And i can tell you, i have not seen a bill move that fast through congress in my 17 years of following congress here in washington. But you mentioned the political problem here. You know, President Biden said he would sign the bill if it passes the senate. So would that be a political mistake, especially in the eyes of young voters . Think its a political mistake to go forward with the process without any sort of guarantee this will not lead to a disruption of service or a ban. Theres in guarantee in the bill that we wont end up at a ban of tiktok or certainly not disruption for a period of time. Now imagine a service that is being used by 170 million americans. And the main source of communication for young people across this country. And All Of A Sudden thats interrupted . We know who young people are going to assign blame to that that instance. We have to be very careful and the senate needs to take its same and we have to ensure that people understand that for so many young people, its where people gather. 7 million americans use tiktok as the main source of income for the Small Business and millions other businesses and Small Business owners rely on tiktok to actually get referrals. I dont know that all my colleagues in congress understand the power of this social media tool. Yes, we should be concerned. Yes, theres data privacy issues. But this bill is