Tonight. I was trying to get ready for this show and then you did this thing about the council man in enid, oklahoma, and then i was like, hey, ive got a show to do but i was glued to that, and that you did it and that you had that conversation with brandy, without covering these stories i think many of us would just not know that stuff like that happens on that campaign. Its really important to know that other people in deeply red states, largely republican states, see some of this White Supremacy and Replacement Theory and say no, not for us. This is not us, absolutely. Thank you for doing that, my friends. Great to see you, as always. Have a great evening. The battle for the american presidency in 2024 will likely come down to another battle of the blue wall, which includes an in and wisconsin, two reliably democratic states that flipped red in 2016 and led to Donald Trumps shock victory, aided of course by thirdparty candidates. Votes for jill stein in both states in 2016 were larger than the vote difference between trump and hillary clinton. Joe biden won back both states in 2020, winning michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania. That pushed him to 270 electoral votes, even before georgia and arizona. So it cannot be overstated how critical these data around states are and today donald trump took his election denying, xenophobic, Apocalypse Stump Speech to michigan and wisconsin, where theres a president ial primary tonight, by the way. Our first guest tonight will be michigans democratic governor gretchen whitmer, who will join me in just a moment. Trump started his day with an antiimmigration screed in grand rapids, michigan, where the Democratic National committee launched a new Billboard Campaign to remind everyone that he lobbied republicans to tank the bipartisan Border Security bill. In 2020 donald trump lost michigan to joe biden by 154,188 votes. Here as part of the vision of america that he pitched to voters in michigan today, weirdly, and a little dictator he and encircled by local sheriff send a Police Union Guy in uniform. Its a bloodbath. I tried to use that term incorrectly two weeks ago. Its all about misinformation. If we dont win on november 5, i think our country is going to cease to exist. This is not the first time that donald trump has predicted that the United States will cease to exist if he loses. What could cease to exist in this country if donald trump wins is the right to an abortion. Even in states where it is currently legal, even in states where the constitution of that State Warranties it. Donald trump has teased a 15 week federal abortion ban and today he announced that his president ial campaign will release more details about his abortion policy. Now this news comes after the Florida Supreme Court allowed that states six week abortion ban to take effect. Six weeks. But in a separate decision, the court will allow florida voters to decide in november whether to expand Reproductive Rights in that state. Bidens campaign manager, julie chavez rodriguez, told reporters today, quote, donald trump is directly to blame for the fact that abortion has now been effectively banned across the entire southeastern United States, and quote, and today nbc news broke the story that Arizona Abortion Rights advocates say they gathered signatures needed to put a constitutional amendment on the 2024 ballot to protect Abortion Access up to viability. Meanwhile, Michigan Democrats are expanding reproductive freedoms for michiganders and our next guest, the Michigan Democratic governor, gretchen whitmer, signed into law yesterday eight series of bills known collectively as the michigan Family Protection act, which provides Legal Protections for families whose children were born via in vitro fertilization. The legislation also ended michigans criminal been on paid surrogacy, Protecting Reproductive Freedom and choice was a promise that Governor Whitmer has kept since the Supreme Court overturned roe v wade. As Minority Leader i urged my colleagues to take the floor and express their outrage and share their stories, and one of them was about to, but he couldnt because it was too difficult. And thats when i realized, how could i ask a colleague to tell their story when i wasnt yet prepared to share my own . So i took to the podium and put aside my prepared remarks and shared the story that id only told a handful of people. I talked about the time that i was gay for when i was in college. Thankfully it did not result in a pregnancy, but if it had, i knew that i wouldve been able to get the care that i needed, that was right for me. I knew that in short, i could do what i needed to do if it came to that. The decision about my future would be mine alone. The bill we were debating at the time would have forced me to buy insurance for my own rape before it happened, or to bear the child of my attacker. 10 years ago today i gave that speech and it didnt change a single vote on the senate floor. Hundreds of people called and faxed and emailed my office to share their support or share their own story. I knew then that this fight was not over. Today, exactly 10 years later, im honored to stand here as the governor and sign the repeal of that awful lot. And i share this story because it reminds us all that when we work to protect our fundamental rights, our Reproductive Rights, our civil rights, lgbtq rights, sometimes that work takes longer than days or weeks. Sometimes maybe it takes a decade and its still not truly finished. But staying in that fight is the only way to win that fight. Joining us now is the michigan governor gretchen whitmer. She is the cochair of the biden harris 2024 reelection campaign. Governor, its good to see you again. Thank you for being with us. A number of states including florida are trying to get a Ballot Measure like you head in michigan, through to guarantee Abortion Rights in their state. What happens if Donald Trumps threat or promise, depending on how you see it, to impose a 15 week abortion ban comes to pass . Does that have more strength than your states guarantee . Listen, i think one of the things with a guy like donald trump is you got to watch what he does. Dont listen to what he says. He says a lot of Different Things but at the end of the day, hes the one that put three Supreme Court justices on the bench who overruled roe v wade and it is exactly why we have a patchwork of rights across this country, why reproductive freedom is under attack. So as we look to what may happen in florida and what may happen in arizona, lets be very clear, abortion is on the ballot in all 50 states in this election. If donald trump becomes our president again, he is going to eviscerate many fundamental freedoms, including the right to an abortion, and it would impact women in michigan, new york, california, and every other state like ohio that has achieved protections for this. In the last election in your state, you and your fellow statewide democrats leaned into that as an issue, and other issues, obviously. It is the prototype, perhaps, for what can happen across this country in november. Absolutely. You know, allie, i had to tell my story about being sexually assaulted when i was at Michigan State in undergrad, 10 years ago, when i was fighting an effort to make it even harder for women to access abortion. It didnt change a single vote that day, but i knew after the response that i heard from people across michigan that we were right on this issue. 10 years later to the day, i was able to sign the repeal of that very lot. This is a Fight We Women In America and our families and our allies are ready to have. We shouldnt have to. It is horrifying that we are in this moment but i dont think anyone should underestimate american women and how strongly we, and men and allies across this country feel about this issue, and we are going to win on its. One of the things you did in that speech a decade ago, when you were the Minority Leader in the senate, you said you didnt really like talking about this that much but you wanted people to see who the women are On The Other Side of the story, On The Other Side of the equation. And we have learned that since the fall of roe. These obstructions about women who get abortions have now become real stories about women who are actually dying in the effort to have reproductive healthcare. Thats right and when i told this story it didnt sway a single vote that day and sadly, once i just signed into law this repeal of the ban on paid surrogacy in michigan, we want to help women and their families , samesex couples as well, start a family in whatever way makes sense for them, on their own terms, where and when theyre ready. We can protect all of those rights but this bill that i just signed into law yesterday only had two republicans vote in favor of it. This was the same group of people that said, oh, we all support ivf when the ruling came out but when they had a vote in front of them to protect ivf, and protect surrogacy, they voted no so thats why i say watch what people do, dont listen to what they say, what would they do and thats when theyll tell you who they are. The ivf issue in alabama, and im glad you have straightened this out in michigan, but it confused many of us as we didnt understand, whats this about, why are people against ivf . Most people just think ivf is difficult and offensive and hard to achieve, that it helps people who are trying to have children. What is your law in michigan now protect against . So we have secured and made very clear what the rights are and codified ivf as well as decriminalized paid surrogacy. I think those are two very important ways that many people create families and we want to ensure that if you have a family, you are ready to have it, you get all the avenues to do exactly that. If an embryo is considered a human being, has rights of a human being, that means ivf of course, you saw what happened in alabama but it also could extend to stem cell research. It could bend the Cutting Edge Research forgers when it comes to alzheimers or juvenile diabetes. I mean this is a really scary moment and if people are really paying attention, you see how broad all of these attacks could be applied and it is why this fight is so important and why weve all got to be a part of it. Donald trump said a lot of things in michigan that are of interest, including how the country is going to cease to exist if hes not president , and death to our cities and our suburbs and all of this. He also pointed out that suburban housewives love him. He made that very specific, he was talking about suburban housewives. This is always a discussion that comes up. You are from michigan. Your victories were across the board in urban areas and suburban areas and on these issues of Reproductive Rights and freedoms in general, it seems to cross a lot of those lines. I suspect there are some suburban housewives in michigan who are kind of annoyed that donald trump is invoking them for nonsense that they wouldnt support. I sure as heck would be. We know that the hardworking women and men of this state spoke loud and clear in the last election and sent me back to keep doing this job, and ill tell you i think that the conversation around our border is serious. We need serious leaders who are going to try to solve problems. Donald trump couldnt get it done when he was president. He called me and asked me to send the Michigan National guard and we did. We performed some surveillance on the southern border to help him out. He couldnt get it fixed so when joe biden was on the precipice of working with congress to finally have some real protections, hes the one that torpedoed it. So to come into this state and to tell people that he was the one that couldve fixed it when its exactly the opposite, thats why i say you cant listen to what these guys say. Youve got to look at the record. Youve got to look at the facts and thats why i appreciate the work that you do. How do you convince people who may, including your state, either be complacent about the fact that theyve got Abortion Protections in their state, they got you as their governor, or margin it all up with everything joe biden has been doing . How do you talk to them without minimizing maybe their valid concerns about the fact that the option, if they dont vote for joe biden or they dont vote at all is donald trump . I think its by listening. Weve got to earn peoples votes. The vote is an important thing that someone has, that only that person can exercise, and youve got to earn that. I think it starts with listening. It extends to making sure people have the facts. Im putting it out there what really is at stake in this election. Again, Organization Fight like hell if anyone wants to help. That work we are doing is centered around if people want to understand, just because we made these Great Strides in michigan, im so proud of that, it can be undone quickly if we get a trump term where he gets a congress that will send him an abortion ban. Hes already said hes going to sign it and thats why we cant let people assume that just because youre in a state that affords you these freedoms right now, that theyre always going to be intact. We are all at risk in this upcoming president ial election. What about the movement that we saw, the uncommitted movement during the primaries . Those are people who when presented with the idea of the binary choice between donald trump and joe biden, should be clear, have responded by saying, but that minimizes my actual concerns. That means that your things that you are worried about are not that important right now. What does listening to them or hearing them look like to you, specifically in michigan . Because there are a lot of people who voted, came out to cast an uncommitted ballot there are a lot of people hurting at what is happening in gaza and israel, the hostages as well as the innocent lives that are being lost every single day. Its horrific and here in michigan weve got a Huge Population that is often one degree of separation from people that are suffering or people that are morning. It is horribly hard and thats why i think showing up and listening, making sure that we stay focused on solving problems, keeping people safe here at home and ensuring that they understand all the Different Things we are working on to give people a path to a good life here and to make sure that america is a edible force around the world, a force for good. But no voter, new group or community is monolithic. Weve got a lot of work to do and thats just the very real truth. Governor whitmer, good to see you again. Thank you for spending time with us this evening. Thank you. Coming up, breaking election news. 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