Say no. Absolutely. Thank you for incredibly. Doing that. The battle for the american presidency in 2024 will likely come to another Battle Of The Blue Wall including michigan and wisconsin. Two reliably democratic states that flipped and led to Donald Trumps victory. Votes for jill stein in both states in 2016 were larger than the vote difference between trump and hillary clinton. Joe biden won back both states in 2020. Winning michigan, wisconsin, and that pushed him to 270 electoral votes before georgia and arizona so it cannot be overstated how critical these Battleground States are. And today, donald trump took his election denying xenophobic stump speech to michigan. Our first guest tonight will be michigans democratic Governor Gretchen Whitmer who will join me in just a moment. Trump started his day in michigan where they launched a new Billboard Campaign to remind everyone that he lobbied republicans to tank the bipartisan security bill. He lost to joe biden by 500,000 votes. Here is part of the vision of america he pitched to voters in michigan today. Weirdly, and a little dictatory, encircled by local sheriffs and a police guy in uniform. They tried to use the term blood bath incorrectly on me two weeks ago. It is all about misinformation. If we dont win november 5th, i think our country is going to cease to exist. Now, this is not the first time that donald trump has predicted that the United States will cease to exist if he loses. What could cease to exist in this country if donald trump wins is the right to an abortion. Even in states where it is currently legal. In states where the constitution of that state guarantees it. Today, he announced hi president ial campaign will release more details about his abortion policy. Now, this news comes after the Florida Supreme Court allowed that states six week abortion ban to take effect. Six weeks. The court will allow florida voters to decide whether to expand reproductive rights in that state. Bidens Campaign Manager told reporters that donald trump is directly to blame for the fact that abortion has now been effectively banned across the entire southeast United States. And today, nbc news broke the story that Arizona Abortion Rights advocates say they have gathered signatures needed to put a constitutional amendment on the 2024 ballot to protect abortion access. Gretchen whitmer signed into law a series of bills known as the michigan Family Protection act providing Legal Protections for families whose children were born by in vitro fertilization. I urge my colleagues to take the floor and express their outrage. One of them was about to but couldnt. That is when i realized how could i ask a colleague to tell their story when i wasnt yet prepared to share my own . So i put aside my prepared remarks and shared the story that i had only told a handful of people. I talk about the time i was raped in college. Thankfully, it did not result in a pregnancy. But if it had, i knew i would have been able to get the care i needed. I knew i could do what i needed to do if it came to that. The decision about my future would be mine alone. The bill you were debating at the time would have forced me to buy insurance for my own rape before it happened or bear the child of my attacker. Ten years ago today, i gave that speech and it didnt change a single vote on the senate floor. Hundreds of people called and faxed and emailed. To share their support. I knew this fight was not over. Today, exactly ten years later, im standing here as the governor signing the repeal of that awful law. And i share this story because it reminds us all that when we work to protect our fundamental rights. Civil rights. Sometimes that work takes longer than days or weeks. Sometimes it takes a decade and it is still not truly finished but stays in that fight is the only way to win that fight. Joining us now is gretchen whitmer. The cochair of the biden harris 2024 reelection campaign. Governor, good to see you again. Thanks for being with us. Reporter thanks ali. A number of states including florida are trying to get a Ballot Measures like you had in michigan through to guarantee Abortion Rights in their state. What happens if Donald Trumps threat or promise to impose a 15week abortion ban comes to pass . Does that have more strength than your states guarantee . One of the things with a guy like donald trump is you have to watch what he does. Dont listen to what he says. He says a lot of Different Things but at the end of the day, he is the one that put three Supreme Court justices on the bench who took, you know, who overruled roe v. Wade. And, it is exactly why we have a patchwork of rights across the country. Why reproductive freedom is under attack. So as we look to what may happen in florida and what may happen in arizona, lets be clear. Abortion is on the ballot in all 50 states in this election. If donald trump becomes the president again, he will eviscerate many fundamental freedoms including the right to abortion and it would impact women in michigan, new york, california, and every other state like ohio that has achieved protections for this right. In the last election in your state, you and your fellow statewide democrats leaned into that as an issue. And other issues obviously. It is the prototype perhaps for what can happen across this country in november. Reporter absolutely. I had to tell my story about being sexually assaulted at Michigan State and undergrad. Ten years ago when i was fighting an effort to make it even harder for women to access abortion. It didnt change a single vote that day. But i knew after the response i heard from people across michigan we were right on this issue. Ten years later to the day, i was able to sign the repeal of that very law. This is a Fight We Women In America and our families and our allies are ready to have. We shouldnt have to. It is horrifying that we are in this moment. But i dont think anyone should underestimate american women and how strongly we and men and allies feel about this issue. One of the things you did in that speech, you said you didnt really, you dont like talking about this much. But you wanted people to see who the women were on the other side of the story. On the other side of the equation. And we learned that. These abstractions about women who get abortions have become real stories about women actually dying in the effort to have Reproductive Health care. Well, thats right. And when i told that story, it didnt sway a single vote that day. Sadly, i had signed into law this repeal of the ban on paid surrogacy in michigan. We want to help women and their families, you know, same sex couples as well. Start a family in whatever way makes sense for them. On their own terms, when and when they are ready. We can protect all of those rights. But this bill only had two republicans vote in favor of it. This is the same group who said we all support ivf, but when they had a vote in front of them to protect ivf and surrogacy, they voted no. And so, that is why i keep saying watch what people do. Dont listen to what they say. Watch what they do. That will tell you who they are. The ivf issue in alabama and im glad you straightened this out in michigan, we didnt understand what is this about . Why are people against ivf . Most people just think it is difficult and expensive and hard to achieve, but it helps people trying to have children. What is your law in michigan now protect against . So we have secured and made very clear what the rights are and codified ivf as well as decriminalized paid surrogacy. These are two ways that many people create families and we want to ensure that if you want to have a family, you get all the avenues to do exactly that. If an embryo is considered a human being, has rights of a human being, that means, you know, ivf of course, you saw what happened in alabama, but it also could extend to Stem Cell Research and ban the Cutting Edge Research for alzheimers and juvenile diabetes. This is a scary home. If people are really paying attention, you see how broad all of these attacks could be applied. It is why this fight is so important and we have to be a part of it. Donald trump said a lot of things in michigan of interest including how the country will cease to exist if he is not president and our death to our cities and suburbs and all this and pointed out that suburb ban housewives above him. He made that very specific. This is always a discussion that comes up. If you are in michigan, you victories are across the board. And on these issues of reproductive rights and freedoms in general, it seems to cross a lot of those lines. I suspect there are some suburban housewives in michigan that are annoyed that donald trump is invoking them for nonsense they wouldnt support. Well i sure as heck would be. We know that the hard working women and men of this state spoke loud and clear in the last election and sent me back to keep doing this job. And i will tell you, i think the conversation around our border is serious. We need serious leaders to solve problems. He couldnt get it fixed so when joe biden was on the precipice of working with congress to have real protections, he is the one that torpedoed it. To come into this state, he was the one that could mix it. You cant listen to what these guys say. You have to look at the record and get the facts. How do you convince people who may including your state be complacent about the fact they have Abortion Protections in your state, or arent you in love with everything joe biden has been doing . How do you talk to them without minimizing what may be their valid concerns about the fact that the option, if they dont vote for joe biden is donald trump . I think it is by listening. We got to earn peoples votes. A vote is an important thing somebody has. It starts with listening. Organization, fightlikehell. Org if anyone wants to help. But this is center around making sure people understand, it can be undone quickly if we get a trump term. Congress that will send him an abortion ban. He said he will sign it and we cant let people assume that just because you are in a state that affords you these freedoms, we are all at risk. What about the movement that we saw . The uncommitted movement during the primaries . Those are people who when presented with the idea that the binary choice between donald trump and joe biden should be clear, that means they are not important. What does that look like to you . A lot of people came out to cast an uncommitted ballot. 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Which all seems pretty obvious since they are their partys presumed nominees at this point. But sometimes you have to stay stuff on the record, especially with trump. And here is just another example of why. Donald trump held a rally in green bay, wisconsin where he once again spread lies about the 2020 election and claimed that he won the state of wisconsin. We won this state by a lot and it came out he won the state. He didnt win. It didnt come out that he won. That is just a lie. Donald trump lost the state in 2020 to biden by 20,000 vote. Here is what the Secretary Of State had to say about the former president s return to her state. You know, today is the first time President Trump has been here in almost two years. Why . He has been too busy focusing on himself. Whether it is a gimmick of a bible or sneakers that just Working Families cant afford . To, you know, being in court because he has 88 criminal charges. Against him. As president , donald trump didnt do things for Working Families in wisconsin. Lets talk about his tax plan. It provided tax breaks for the wealthy 1 in corporations so the amazons of the world paid basically zero in taxes. And my parents who are retired public schoolteachers paid more. Thats not right. If we look at his tax cuts alone, they increase the deficit by about 2 trillion. Thats not fiscally responsible. Joining us know t chairman of the Democratic Party of wisconsin. Good to see you again, thank you for being with us. What do you make of the results . Not the big headlines but what do you make of how this is all playing out the number of people who came out, the enthusiasm and the fact that joe biden won is a tight place. It is great to be with you tonight. And it is a big night in wisconsin, the core stories have shown with what happened in the election daytoday, trump was telling his supporters to wait in line to see him speak. 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