I have of course been watching all your coverage here, and what we have seen on the videos so far is actually the most organized and most common most professional Police Intervention we have ever seen on a college campus. There is not a huge collection of those, but there is enough beginning in 1968, to show how different this one is. The 1968 version, those 700 arrested students were gleefully beaten by the nypd. In those days, the Police Departments were going into campuses, were gleeful about the violence that they were visiting upon those antiwar protesters, and it was relentless, vicious, and cruel, and extended to the Democratic Convention in chicago, by investigated by police right. Thats not what we are seeing tonight. Our screen has been filled with what clearly do appear to be columbia student sets escorted by a Police Officer, both of them, the Police Officer and Student Walking very calmly to whatever that Arrest Destination is, what vehicle they will put those kids on and take them where they are going. So, this so far, is nothing like what we have seen in the previous, dramatic, and violent interventions by Police Departments in the past on campuses. It could get worse. We could get an after action report that indicates rough things. But so far that has not been the slightest bit of violence tonight. Have a great show. We are joined by former Chief Of Police in dekalb county, georgia. He has also been in touch with nypd tonight. And, cedric, i have been watching what you have been watching on the screen, and i have been watching for and hoping for the professionalism of the police force and their response. They didnt volunteer to be there, they didnt ask to be there, columbia asked them to be there. And what we have seen so far from what the camera can detect has been no police brutality, no overreaction by police, and cooperation in their arrests by the students who are being arrested. Caller let me say this, lawrence, one thing i think is important to take into account, nypd has been preparing. Historically these type of events, they have a long city of dealing with these types of situations, and in preparation for the administration there and columbia giving nypd the green light to move in, in which nypd did tonight they were very well prepared, they had been preparing for this for some time, utilizing their intelligence sources i am quite sure. They had been using all Available Technology to them, and they had a plan. We saw them go in, and so far it has been without incident. Those officers i am quite sure would have conducted themselves accordingly effective arrest. But i think we are in a situation here tonight where we are hopefully seeing this come to an end, because it probably should have come to an end at this point. It appears nypd and its leadership have certainly done a great job in terms of working with the university and community at large hopefully to bring this to a peaceful end. The only really big difference between these protests this spring and what we saw in 1968 and during the vietnam war is that these protests are much smaller and much more scattered. We have 6000 colleges in the United States of america, approximately 48 of them have seen some demonstrations, most of them relatively small demonstrations. So the real story of American College life this spring has been more than 99 of students have been going to classes uninterrupted and more than 99 of colleges. That is a perspective you dont get when the camera aims at what is happening on any particular university. We all understand, and this campus gets a lot of media attention, since it is located in the Media Capital of the world. And nypd has not pressure tonight knowing that the world is watching what they are doing. Absolutely. But i think in addition to that also, lawrence. If we go back to 1968 in this much earlier years we certainly did not have the Communication Mediums we have today. The internet, etc. And facebook and so forth and so on. It is a different time. What is happening on one particular campus we all around the country and around the world can see whats going on. I think what occurred tonight, they had a show of a community that prepared itself. Those in around that community, and we have to applaud them as well too. Everyone i think wanted to see this come to an end. I wouldnt be surprised if protesters wanted to see it come to an end. On behalf of the city, police, and community at large, i think it is a demonstration of how far we have come since 1960. Hopefully there is opportunity now for the university to sit down with all parties involved and find resolution to these complex issues that will continue to face us every day. Cedric alex, think mike you for joining us at this hour. Thank you. If there is anything more to bring you during this hour we will bring it to you. It is always shocking to see a Police Presence like this on an american campus going in there to deal with protests. Normally in this country now and when you see a Police Presence like this on a campus, it is because a mass murderer is let loose on the campus. That is not what happened there tonight. That is not what is happening there tonight. It has been so far peaceful protest which included occupying a building, and the occupying of the building was the action that provoked the university to decide they had to call local police to try and remove the protesters from the building. Everything we have seen so far indicates protesters have been arrested when leaving the building and leaving that building calmly. We will continue to follow exactly whats happening at columbia tonight as necessary. We are turning up to the news of the day. That occurred for any of this happened tonight, at columbia. That begins with something very important that donald trump heard today from the judge in his committal trial. Jail may be a necessary punishment. That is what judge juan merchan said today in writing. Trial days frequently. The judge called some housekeeping matters, one of them was trying to work something out with the sound system to make it work better. Another was a good news bad news item for donald trump. The judge said because the trial is proceeding ahead of schedule canceled so mr. Trump can certainly attend his sons graduation. Bad news for donald trump, he might now actually have to go to his sons high school graduation, and then is the third housekeeping item on the judges mind, he used less than a minute of court time to enhance his finding that donald trump is indeed guilty of Contempt Of Court. The judge said the court finds that the people have met their burden of proof and demonstrated contempt. Mr. Trump is find 1000 on each. I am handing down a Written Decision copies for both sides. The details of the decision are in the Written Decision. And that was that. The judge then brought in the jury. In the seven pages describing trumps violations of the judges order forbidding him to make comments the judge decided trump violated his order nine times and find trump the maximum fine of 1000 for each violations. The judge noted the inadequacy of the finds in Donald Trumps case. The judge wrote the Judiciary Law does not vest the court with authority to craft an appropriate punishment when a 1000 fine will not achieve the intended purpose. By 1000 may suffice in most instances to protect the dignity of the system to respect for its mandates and punish the offender for disobeying a court order and unfortunately will not achieve the desired result in those instances where the contemnor can easily afford such a fine. In those circumstances it would be preferable if the court could impose a fine more commensurate with the wealth of the contemnor nor in some cases that might be a 2500 fine. In other cases it might be 150,000. Because this court is not clipped with such discretion it must therefore consider whether in some instances jail may be a necessary punishment. Therefore the defendant is hereby warned the court will not tolerate continued willful violations of its lawful order, and if necessary and appropriate under the circumstances it will impose an incarcerated tory punishment. When the trial resumes on thursday the first order of business is a hearing on four more alleged violations of the judges gag order against donald trump. The worst of the violations is donald trump saying in an interview last monday that jury was picked so fast95 democrats. The areas mostly all democrat. You think of it as a purely democratic area. Its a very unfair situation that i can tell you. Trump is under order to not say a word about the jury, not a word. So it doesnt actually matter that what he said about the jury is a lie. Donald trump has no idea how Many Democrats are on that jury or how many republicans might be on the jury. But we do Know Donald Trump will be fined 1000 for saying that. And what we dont know yet is how many more of these violations will it take for the judge to consider jail a necessary punishment. 30 days is the maximum sentence a judge can issue for any one of these violations. If donald trump was sentenced to any time in jail he would be like many of the criminal defendants who report for their trials every day in that same courthouse while living in jail on Rikers Island across the water from laguardia airport. And so donald trump has never been closer to spending a night in jail than he is right now. The most important testimony of the day was given by the man who said i have a blockbuster trump story. Keith davidson was Stormy Daniels first lawyer. Before that he was Karen Mcdougals first lawyer. And it was in his role as mcdougals first lawyer he text the publisher of the National Enquirer i have a blockbuster trump story. Steinglass asked witness Keith Davidson to read that text that he sent to dylan howard. I have a blockbuster trump story. Question, what did you mean by that . Answer, sort of an entree or teaser to dylan to let him know i had perhaps an opportunity for him. Question, and what was that generally speaking without revealing client confidences, what was the opportunity about which you were contacting him . Answer, regarding the interaction between Karen Mcdougal and donald trump. Question, what did stir howard say if anything, in response . Answer, talk first thing i will get you more than anyone for it. You know why. Question answer that you would call me in the morning. That i dont know if i had a clear understanding at that time, but i knew that dylans boss, david pecker , and mr. Trump are longtime friends and had a former business relationship, that mr. David pecker published trump magazine, and that at the time they had endorsed mr. Trumps candidacy. That is why National Enquirer, he believed,. Dylans reply was talk first thing, i will get you more than anyone for it, you know why. And the why in Keith Davidsons answer was mr. Trumps candidacy. The prosecutor asked davidson to read more texts. From dylan, did he cheat on milani . Question who did you understand he to be referring to . Donald trump. Okay, next text. From who . From dylan. Do you know if the affair was during his marriage to melania . Answer yes. And how did you respond to this text . Answer, i really cannot say yet. Sorry. Question, is that because he didnt know, or because you werent prepared to discuss the details at that point . Answer, it was because it was the latter, because i was not prepared to discuss the details at that point. Keith davidson then entered negotiations with the National Enquirer to sell Karen Mcdougals story to the National Enquirer. Keith davidson arranged a meeting in california in Keith Davidsons office. Question, can you tell us the substance of what ms. Mcdougal said about the nature of her interactions with mr. Trump during this meeting . Answer i can summarize it. Thats fine. Ms. Mcdougal alleges that she had had a romantic affair with donald trump for some years prior. Question, when you say romantic, does that include sexual . Answer thats what she expressed. That was the blockbuster story. That was for sale to the National Enquirer. Can google was a Playboy Magazine model who in 1998 was playmate of the year. Karen mcdougal has said in interviews she was in love with donald trump and did not want her story about donald trump to be made public, Keith Davidson was able to use that story as leverage to use the National Enquirer to pay his client, Karen Mcdougal, 150,000, to work for the National Enquirer or its Parent Company by occasionally maybe writing articles for them the prosecution alleges this was a classic example of the socalled catch and kill scheme the jury has already heard about in David Testimony Which revealed a secret plan for the National Enquirer to kill all negative stories about candidate donald trump, purchase them if necessary. And to highlight and even invent negative stories about Donald Trump Office campaign opponents. Karen mcdougal was not the last blockbuster trump story, but that Keith Davidson worked on for the next story was the Stormy Daniels story to prosecutor asked Keith Davidson what the release of the Access Hollywood Visio Of Donald Trump bragging about Sexual Assault meant for the Stormy Daniels story in the value of it. Question. What impact if any did the release of the access Hollywood Tape have an interest in Stormy Daniels story as you are aware . So far as im aware . It had tremendous influence. Question. Can you explain that a little bit to the jury please . Answer, before access Hollywood Tape there was very little if any interest from what i understand it was not until access hollywood that interest sort of reached a crescendo. Keith davidson was then asked about his texts after the Access Hollywood Story broke. Question, who sent the first text in this chain . Its from me. Question, what did you say . Answer. Trump is fd. You wrote out the whole word . Answer yes. Had to dylan howard respond . He responded with a wave the white flag, its over pete both people exclamation point. How did you interpret that . Answer, i think he was seconding my opinion. Question based on the axis i would tape to mark answer yes. National enquirer backed out of the deal and Keith Davidson had to negotiate directly with Michael Cohen for the Hush Money Payments that were paid directly to Stormy Daniels. When they were struggling to finalize the deal and Michael Cohen was not ready to make the Payments Davidson remembered cohen saying well godamit i am doing everything i can. When he said his guy was in a certain number of states who did you understand his guy to be making references to . His answer, donald trump. Then another discussion tonight is Evan Klasfeld, fellow at justice security, and andrew weissman, nbc, msnbc a list and author of trump indictments. Adam . First of all when i saw the judge ruled on the contempt i was eager to see the transfer. I wanted to see what he said about it before he issued his written opinion. And its half a page. It is stunning how quickly he did that. It was entirely offhand. He couldnt have pronounced it more cavalier. He was doing housekeeping as he said. He got around to the calendar, the sound system, then he mentioned donald trump, you are found in Contempt Of Court nine times over. He goes to this way he has conducted himself throughout the arguments over this. He is taking his time. He is picking it apart. You may have noticed there were nine out of the 10 different allegedly violations before him. He is carefully and quietly going through it, but its leaving its mark. One thing in the written order the judge imposed, he forced trump to take down the offending post, and he gave him the deadline of 2 15, which is a time when the court always comes back from the Lunch Recess Setting up this possible standoff. Trump complied. And it showed that even though the judge is speaking softly, and hes going very carefully and deliberately the messages coming through. Thursday when they resume, its more of these hearings of these posts of his . It is worth noting the judge issued a very detailed opinion. Its not like he just in half a page of viewer notes. Like i find you in contempt. The