The toughest business people. People that you know about. Could i ask you a question . How do you do it . I say do what . How do you get up in the morning and put your pants on . I will explain it to you some day. We have been talking about politics so long, im oded. You know what i means . Im oded on politics. Im oded on trump. I turn on the television, trump, trump, trump, all different stories. Thats true. Debunking the lies about black and brown voters following trumps unhinged rally in the bronx. His case will come to an end while the other cases get slow walked by the Supreme Court. And crockett has an Epic Takedown of marge greene. Be sure to stick around for our second hour and my full interview with wnba star Brittney Griner on how she surviveed in a russian gulag. And Bonus Content that has never aired before. You do not want to miss it. We begin with Donald Trumps preoccupation with crowd size which continued in an unhinged bronx rally where he boasted huge crowds of 25,000 plus. Take a look. Do you see 25,000 people . Based on the Police Department as well as math, The Laws Of Physics and the existence of eyeballs, you can see that trump once again is lying. It is the lie that launched a thousand memes. With folks comparing this paltry with what actually constitutes a touchdown of 25,000. Like the crowd Andrea Bocelli drew. Or this rally for obama. If anything triggers donald trump, its the obama factor. Remember back in 2017 on that awful day for American History when trump was inaugurated president , he predicted huge crowds for his ceremony. Bigger than obamas. But then, these photos famously showed a view of the crowd on the National Mall at the inauguration of obama on the left and trump on the right. Both shot from noon from the top of the washington monument. The lies continue to this day. A couple of weeks ago, a so called Raucous Beach Front Rally in new jersey drew between 80 and 100,000 people according to wildwood officials. But then those same republican officials later said the number reflected not really how many people were at the rally per se, but rather it was the number of people in our town. Make it make sense. Or rather, dont. We know the absurdity is the point. This is the thing with donald trump. An overinflated sense of self and orchestrated lie to make him seem better than he actually is. You know who else does that . Dictators. Knowing people will just believe any narrative they are fed. And we know this about donald trump. But this is also about the media taking the bait. With reports on trumps Crowd Size Snatching all the headlines. This is a call for some good Old Fashioned shoe leather reporting. Was anyone at this rally asked if they are actually from the bronx . It boasts the majority of black and latino voters. The crowd looked awfully white. As trump was lying on stage, this is what new yorkers said on the ground. Nobody who is authentically from the bronx is willing to cosign hatred and xenophobia and all of the things that this guy represents. No. He is not welcome in the bronx. Do you think there is anyone you know in the bronx voting for him . No. I dont know anyone. Doesnt fit trumps narrative does it . And think about it. If trump has so many supporters in new york, why arent they showing up in droves to support him at his trial . Where the courthouse is literally just a subway ride away . This is tuesday. One supporter. Usually there are none. Trust me. I have been there. And to top off this tom foolery, trump floated Byron Donalds as potential Vice President pick. That guy. The one black guy republicans love to roll out as fake proof that the blacks are just maga. They are maga. Its a joke. And just as credible as when they pretended they were going to make that guy speaker of the house because they werent going to do that either. Joining me now is michael steele. And clay cain. Host of the clay cain show. Author of the New York Times best selling book, the grift. We were on the list at the same time. We were. Lets talk about this. This particularly bothered me. My god mother, my jamaican god mother lived in the bronx. That is where i lived after college. Im an orphan so after that i went and lived with my god mother so i lived in the south bronx. I know what the south bronx is like. I know what the south bronx people are like. That aint it. They are trying to use this location and this little crowd to make it look like it is brown and black people that are his base. Does it irritate you . I have been in the new york city area almost 25 years and talk about pandering and lies. Lies, lies, and more lies. I mean, he is in the south bronx. But the bx is not there with him. Local news reports said people were traveling there. And then it is silly. I think about to show us how he cares about black or brown voters, he brought out two rappers who have been accused of murder. And this year marks 25, im sorry, 35 years since he accused five black men in central park of being rapists and calling for their execution. And yusuf salam represents the district not far from there. So he thought those kids were garbage. He wanted them dead. That is the guy who Anybody Black like byron who is from brooklyn like me. His family is caribbean american, like mine. I grew up around the time of the central park five. I never even watched the apprentice. Anybody black that knows anything about donald trump thinks the way i do about him. That is why he got 10 in new york when he ran here. New yorkers dont like him. Absolutely. And when he was running for office, we were saying trust new yorkers. We tried to tell you. And why isnt he in florida in his actual district . You will not be Vice President byron. They will make he speaker. He was on our show trying to convince us of that. They rubbed his head. Dont let people rub you on the head. I know you are a hip hop fan as i am. I have never heard of sheffg and sleepy hollow. They were both accused of murder in a 140 count indictment. So trumps pitch to us is gold sneakers and two rappers accused of murder. That is what he thinks of black people. As somebody who tried to expand the ranks of black support in the republican party, what do you think of that . Well, it is an embarrassing affront to all the work and effort that African Americans are trying to create within their community and trying to get people to Pay Attention to the Young African american boys and girls who are working their way through schools, who are trying, who just graduated this year. And for major institutions, to set a course for themselves of the american dream. So you want to remind us that we are nothing more than rappers with 140 Felony Counts against them including murder. Oh. By the way, we are going to save you on your cigarettes because we know you like smoking those cigarettes. And wearing those sneakers. Its all been a lie. It has all been portrayed in a way. And this is the part i find the most offensive. When members of our Tone Community promote this crap. Come on. And dont speak honestly. That is a problem. So you know, you might as well just stand on that stage instead of throwing out maga hats, throw out a pair of sneakers because thats essentially what it is. And so, that is all you can bring to us, stay your ass home. We dont need it. He literally threw paper towels at puerto ricans. You have marco rubio who knows better. Who used to be a commentator. He is okay with them locking up people like him and putting them in camps. You can always find someone from the community who is willing to Clarence Thomas it out and turn against his own people. Clarence thomas who thinks brown people went too far. That guy. You have a baby version of him in Byron Donalds. It is so embarrassing. Real quick. Joy. How does Clarence Thomas think he gets an education if brown v. The board of education is still in place . Is he going to harvard maybe . He thinks some white billionaire will help him. He does believe in a goodly rich white person. He thinks he is fine. He doesnt care about anyone else. I mean, i got to bring michael in here. There is a great series in The New Republic i hope you guys will check it out. The other piece of this, michael, is the media. The media has got to stand in the way of fascism here. I know they dont want to take a side. What American Fascism would look like. Talk about the medias responsibility here in terms of the way we talk about this stuff. The way we talkabout things like did he get a massive number of black and brown people in the bronx. We are way past the time, joy, where we can do this side and that side as it relates to donald trump. The kind of journalism that says this side says this and this side says that. That said, thats a traditional approach to objective journalism. We cant have that. Im not saying that the media should be shilling for joe biden or seeing to it he wins the election. No, absolutely no. However, the media has to stand for the values of democracy. An and the values of the republic we live in and that we have been trying to perfect for 250 years. And against the values that would attack them. He tells us every week, we were prepares that issue of The New Republic. And you know. I was wondering maybe, is this going a little far . Then he comes out with that Time Magazine interview. This validates every single word we are writing in this package of stories. And yeah, the media has to just be more blunt and say look. This man said he is going to do this. He says he is going to put, try to deport and round up millions and millions of people. What would that look like . A long investigative series on what that would look like. What that would do to families. Families who are, you know, tax paying people. It is sad. It is sad. And i think what is also sad, clay, is the Audition Process we have seen. Tim scott and marco rubio hue yell mating themselves. You are not responding to a simple question about as Conspiracy Theory you voiced. What Conspiracy Theory . That the fbi by having on a document they are authorized to use deadly force was trying to harm or assassinate former president trump. That is false. Will you acknowledge that . Can i be very clear with you . Sure. Im not sure what Merrick Garland is trying to do these days. Because it is clear that the Department Of Justice is being weaponnized against donald trump. That is clear. You can only be embarrassed for people who have the capability of being embarrassed for themselves. The real pick is probably going to be someone like tom cotton. Because he is willing to defend slavery. He wants to send in troops. To attack people with black lives matter. He is the violent openly fine with racism if he aint racist, hes open to it. Thats the kind of guy trump wants. Byron donalds is not. It is interesting for all the tap dancing that Byron Donalds is doing and tim scott is doing, there was not going to be a reward for your indecency. Being a disservice to the history of black republicans. To the history of the gop. You are not going to be rewarded for it. To see him cosigning some bizarre Conspiracy Theory that trump is going to be assassinated or killed by the doj or the fbi, that is what a cult leader said. Jim jones said that in 1978. The government is trying to come after me. For you to coshine that is shameful. And he has had some experience with the criminal Justice System when he was done. They showed leniency to him. So he knows the criminal Justice System firsthand. And michael, let me actually play you The Other Side of it. This is what joe biden. They have an ad out featuring the great robert deniro. Lets play that. From midnight tweets to drinking bleach. To tear gassing citizens and staging a photo op. We know trump was out of control when he was president. Then he lost the 2020 election and snapped. Desperately trying to hold onto power. Now, he is running again. This time, threatening to be a dictator, to terminate the constitution. If i dont get elected, it will be a blood bath. Trump wants revenge. And he will stop at nothing to get it. Okay, former rnc chair. Michael, is that a good retort . Thats a good retort. You know what i like about that ad . Because this is the take away. He snapped. He snapped. In all the connotations that go with those two words about trump, about the democrats getting a little more mojo. Politics is not jus about i respond if i get hit. Sometimes you have to lean in and lay a shot or two first. This ad responds. Every time trump says something bad or crazy, he snapped. He snapped. Quickly, last word to you. Give us a piece of advice on what we should be doing to try to counter this oncoming fascism steaming toward us. Our friends an neighbors and relatives about the things donald trump says. Lets not talk about what he did as president from 2016 to 2020. Lets talk about what he says he is going to do. He has laid it out there for us. He made it plain. He is going to take a Wrecking Ball to democracy. Every voter doesnt care about that, joy. But i would have to think critical masses of voters do care. We certainly hope so. Thank you all very much. 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They cannot present new evidence so the Closing Arguments can only sum up is facts and evidence already presented during the trial. For the prosecution, that includes a damning amount of direct and circle evidence in trumps involvement in the falsifications of Business Records to cover up the experience to influence the 2016 election by unlawful means. As presented by their witnesses. For the defense, their strategy clearly is to hope that at least one juror will not accept that mountain of evidence. And will instead question the credibility of the testimony from trumps former lawyer Michael Cohen. Just as important, if not more so, following those Closing Arguments, judge juan merchan will read off the Jury Instructions which will be the basis for how the jury will decide whether trump is guilty or not guilty. At that point, trumps fate will be in the hands of his 12 member jury of his peers. Joining me now is joyce vance, professor at the university of Alabama School of law and msnbc legal analyst. And andrew weissman. Tell me what you expect to see happen in the summations and can you anticipate for us what you think the Jury Instructions might look like . Yes, two really important questions joy. It is a little frustrating being a lawyer in a trial. In the Opening Statement all you can do is predict to the jury what you think the evidence will be. You cant make any arguments about what it means. You cant do that when you are asking witnesses questions. But Closing Argument you get to let loose and share with the jury your views of what the evidence means. It doesnt always come in