Meetings on ntv, and the place where everything becomes clear, im andrey norkin, my colleague ivan truzhkin, we work live, the intonations were still a little inaccurate, but okay, but its learning, and its learning, we ve gone a little ahead of ourselves forward to the topic of the next hour, this first hour will be devoted to our largescale travels across. Different countries and continents, but we will start with messages from the ministry of defense over the past night, here our ministry of defense talks about what ukrainian means armed forces of ukraine, belgorodskaya they tried to shell the region again, and the targets were exclusively civilian objects, including childrens objects, well, i mean the educational infrastructure, there is the infrastructure for childrens recreation, and so on, which means that what happened at night, according to our defense department, at night means. Over the belgorod region, our air defenses destroyed 32 vampire missiles, three alha missiles and three more ukrainian drones. The head of the region, vyacheslav golotkov, said that most of the targets were destroyed on approach to belgorod, but the territory of two childrens camps came under attack, there were direct hits, but the utility block and stadium were damaged. Fortunately, there were no casualties. However, there are deaths in the village of krasny vostok, a woman died, and a downed drone detonated on her house. The buildings located nearby were also damaged by the blast wave; Emergency Services are now working there. Well, the New York Times hints that the United States may soon bless the shelling of more remote from the front line of cities. The publication writes that the head of the us state department, antony blinken, is now persuading the Biden Administration to do this. A step according to the newspaper, previously blinken was an opponent of these measures, but after visiting kiev and assessing the situation on the front line, he changed his position, and is now preparing for the white house such a justification for attacks on russian regions. Blinken discussed the same issue on thursday night in the house of representatives of the us congress. At the hearing, the head of the Lower House Committee on Foreign Affairs, Michael Mccall showed a map, here you see it, on which the zones accessible to attack by atak ms missiles are marked. The map shows that crimea and the liberated. Territories there stand apart and are marked with a separate light, here the affected area, look closely, extends only to the regions bordering ukraine and belarus, and there are many dots marking the possible targets of strikes with american weapons. I would agree to the use of longrange systems , shortrange systems, as well as hymarc. While your administration ties the ukrainians hands. Will you change this policy . Over the past 2 years, we have convinced 50 countries to stand up for ukraine and supply it with the necessary weapons. As for supporting and providing opportunities for attacks outside of ukraine, thats not what we do. But ukraine will have to make its own decisions. And i want to make sure that they have every opportunity to do this. Warsaw, a representative of midpoland named pawel wronski, is now hinting at a possible expansion of participation in the conflict. Interview. Warsaw has no opportunities, well, an influential american political publication reports on the white houses attempts to extend its tentacles deeper not only into the area of the european conflict, but into africa, what are we talking about . Biden intends to give kenya the status of a major us ally outside nato. The status is partner and quite high. With this, as politics writes, such a symbolic step, washington intends to strengthen its influence in africa and at the same time weaken kenyas ties with russia and china. The agreement was timed to coincide with the state the countrys president s visit to washington. Today we celebrate the sixtieth anniversary of relations between our countries. Its clear that its ours. Independent, but this is only a little on paper, all african states have become because the africans themselves, to put it mildly, are not very happy with the situation that is now developing on their continent, just as at least many countries are not very happy, because they are still under Strong Influence and pressure. At the same time, the United States built two military bases in niger, including an airfield for military transport aircraft and longrange attack drones, worth 100 million. The western press claims that the americans had to withdraw troops due to nigers rapprochement with russia, which greatly affected us military operations in africa. The us military presence is illegal and violates all constitutional and democratic principles. The only african country that refuses cooperation with the United States in favor of russia. In april, chadian authorities threatened washington to send us troops to get comfortable. According to cnn, the countrys leadership is following nigers example, and the decision itself allegedly stunned american officials. The New York Times claims that Us Special Forces will leave chat in the near future. Problems have arisen in the congo, where protests against the american and british have not subsided for months now. Well, you know, we need to look at these countries, what is it . Yes, there are certain reserves of Raw Materials there, but these countries are finders, you are from a milking position, i understand correctly, but what kind of countries are these . Countries that are, well, to put it bluntly, at a low level of development, to put it mildly, this is why for the americans this is what happened, these are the remnants of their former life. Countries and so on, as for niger, there are children and so on, this is, well, this is africa, yes, in most countries whoever pays more, so to speak, is the same, so i think, for example, again, maybe i m wrong , have grown into a large civilized society, from your point of view, wait, vyacheslav nikolaevich, well , its hard to deal with them as full partners, no, you can deal with them as full rights, only where and how, we need them, first of all, so that they vote somewhere on our resolutions, so that they bring their athletes in september to these socalled alternative sports games, not more, this is the first, and the most important thing is that in 234 years there will be a huge disappointment in the same niger . In general, ski was not involved in ideology, he made money, so you explain to me directly, because many may not understand that in addition to voting in the un the soviet union received, the soviet union received, firstly, hard currency from there, in any case, the contract on which i worked, wait a minute, i speak with knowledge of the matter on the contract on which i worked, it was about everyones education, we exported knowledge there, knowledge, not weapons, as everyone claims, it cost 50 Million Pounds sterling at that time. This is at least half a billion, they paid for it, we supplied weapons there, they paid for it, we received gold from there, we received uranium from there, we received rare varieties of wood came from there, we received coffee, tea and a lot of other things, we worked on mutually beneficial terms, because of this they treated us with great respect, the political system now tells us what we need from them to vote correctly, but really only after they left us . In kazakhstan, uzbekistan, central asia and transcaucasia, we have lost many sources of very important minerals. They exist in africa, and there is a friendly state there, unlike the belt that was created around us. We have a direct need for this. Look, the whole world is going to africa, including countries infinitely far away, like indonesia, for example, or south korea. Why are they going to africa . Lets talk about the whole world then, lets economically. You, andrei leach, you are a big white gentleman, you know, who comes, puts on a pith helmet, takes a stick, like this, and goes around kicking blacks in the ass, and they are there on the plantation, and they are already now, thats when putin started talking about the end of this colonial policy, colonial policy for probably a year and a half, but in detail about two years ago, somewhere like that, yes, so why did they immediately jump on it, they say, yes, this is what we. Iran and looked at how they act there, and they act actively. According to a recent study, china has become the most influential country on the african continent, with the local population sympathizing with beijing, even more than washington. Moreover, china has for many years remained the largest trading partner of the black continent with a trade turnover of 250 billion. Beijing also gives to african countries. Iran is also trying to keep up, last year the countrys recently deceased president , ibrahim raisi, visited kenya, uganda and zimbabwe. This was the first such tour in 10 years. Iran supplies the continent with oil and gas and has also launched Automobile Assembly plants. And in march, the western press wrote that tehran was allegedly supplying military equipment to sudan and was persuading the countrys leadership to build a naval base in an attempt to gain control over ships passing through. Majority, and iran will play the card of anticolonialism to try to mobilize the elite and citizens, here is the turkish the fleet has already made its way to africa; at the beginning of the year , the somali authorities trusted it. Helping different states, we will begin, perhaps not today, but tomorrow to somehow push each other out of the way. Well, you see, russias return to africa is dictated by the very logic of the new cold war, if the enemy is pressing or trying to exert pressure in one place, then we are trying to resist in another, not only where there is pressure on us, yes, that is, they are in one place is trying to infringe on us somewhere, but we are in another place, and the conditions, of course, are in african continent have developed. In such a way that the french, americans, some other european powers that have dominated over the past 30 years, they, lets say, have exhausted their usefulness, for a number of african regimes, for a number of african countries, they have exhausted their usefulness, for africans , as it is beneficial for poor countries to have as much choice as possible, that is, here they are now. The point is that there is no need to have, there is no need to create illusions, also that we are now entering some country, russia is now entering, that in a few years he wont ask from there, the soviet union constantly faced this, the soviet union had a naval base in somalia, and then somalia was asked to leave, and the soviet union built a naval base quite quickly in ethiopia, this, by the way, the question was, what is the benefit to us, here are naval bases, military bases, literally last year, italy, spain, portugal and so on, were allies, remain allies of the United States, they are in many respects, in a number of aspects, subordinate to a different political will, militarypolitical at the will of the United States, they follow the lead of the american, china in africa, how our relations will develop. Cannot be, they are still partners in a number of aspects, in some aspects they can be competitive, this is a normal situation when it comes to, and moreover, this is not the first time this has happened, china entered the african continent during the times of decolonization, like the soviet alliance, and rivalry, like cooperation between the ussr and china on the african continent, has its own history, this is not the first time we are in a similar situation, its still very very short, how can africans help . Strange as it may sound, the americans very harshly criticized south africa last year; moreover, there was even a story about summoning the American Ambassador to make a statement. Very selectively, you know, probably so, if we evaluate from such a simple point of view, well, quick benefits, probably, african countries will really seem unnecessary to us, but at the same time, of course, we understand that these are longterm projects, one way or another otherwise, and even more so now, covering the needs of the locals, i have in view of african states, including in the security sphere, we, of course, receive a very serious reputational. Benefits, that is , this is important now for russia at the current moment, well, in fact, what we are doing now opens up a certain map for us possibilities of tomorrow, and accordingly, for example, this sounds very nice, i want some specifics, lets say, in 10 years we will be in africa, what about specifics, well, lets see, for example, just excuse me, i also have a correction then, look, in 10 years we are in africa, what, and 10 years, this is generally the time. Uh, which can actually be planned in communication with african, african countries, because you said, in the near future there will be, as it were, such special benefits no, do they know how to work on the volga . Well, everything will be okay, we all understand that you dont agree with anything. Everything will depend on our mood to work for a long time, but for example, if you want specifics, lets get to it, africa has very good agricultural lands, that is, in terms of area this is quite a large volume. We can trace, i, unfortunately, cannot give you specific figures now, but in general, about 2 3 of the worlds agricultural lands are located there, and accordingly, if we are talking about food crises, and this topic is quite common sounds, in general, this is one of the vectors, excuse the cynicism, but why are they starving then, if they have 2 3, andrey vladimerovich, i understand that there is no overseer in your person, but this looks a little paradoxical. The situation looks a little different you need to understand that the african continent is heterogeneous, and the countries of the sahel, for example, do not have these same lands, and there really, explain the sahel to our viewers, this is the saker region this is the region where we are now actively entering, that is, this countries such as mali, burkina fasso, niger, the republic of chat, now we also have, lets say, on the agenda, yes, that is, there is indeed a very limited amount of these same lands, there. Thank you, because well done to everyone i started here, yes, because he didnt so much express his point of view, i still, with all due respect, believe that either a person who has worked there for at least a few years like me, or better yet, has the right to his point of view on any issue. Indeed , he has had connections with this region for decades, and Andrei Vladimirovich demonstrated to us very clearly the point of view, the position of a white man, a white european, which has now been destroyed there, you know . Here you go, these are the people who, in principle , carried everything that you carry today studios. Next, what about the attitude towards us . You know, unfortunately, they dont know us well in africa, yeah, well, yes, they know us very well in africa, i think theyre right about you, because they forgot, ill explain what i mean, we forgot, they didnt forgot, and several other countries, and yes, indeed, they remember the soviet union, the older generation treats us wonderfully, but again , constantly appealing to those times, to our past, constantly dreaming, yes, and articulating their dreams about that so that we work like this then, indeed, all this is accompanied by, well, undisguised hatred for the colonial policy of france, for the european union, for the United States of america and. This is what they are doing not only in africa, all over the world, look at the position of many african countries on palestine , and so on, it will become clear to you on what points of contact we agree, but they dont know us today very well, but they want to know, you know, so ill finish, what is our main advantage, what do we want from africa, gold , there are resources and so on, this is of course all wonderful, but first of all we need a strong one. Exactly like that, exactly like that, exactly like that, this is a global project, this is what we are talking about about gold, about all this matter that my colleague started talking about at the very beginning of the program, this is understandable, this is good, but this is not the most important thing , globally we want a new world order and a new world order without africa is impossible, but lets take a short pause and move to a completely different , so to speak, region of the globe. 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