Twitter. Is. This sort of. Egocentric narcissistic so whether or not he uses twitter i dont think it really makes any difference and still the same scene youre just thinking his Staff Members are worried because it would be better for the white house image that he laid off twitter that he would write less things that are hard for him to the image of the american president that i mean. You hear a lot of stories about the why of. How theyre trying to control him i think hes the type of person who if he wants to do seventy well irrespective of the white house. And the white house stuff anyway its very much divided in terms of personalities and ideologies so. My guess is the probably as much dispute amongst the white house. Trumps use of twits. As divided policies. If twitter was trumps biggest problem i wouldnt be particularly. Its just that its sort of reflects the dysfunctionality of the said ministration that a president should be using twitter to undermine members of his cabinet. Mislead the country to put out different messages from his ministration kind of exemplifies captures the profound dysfunctionality of this regime. Were not going to talk about trumps decision in politics but i just want to talk about twitter and social media because it came into light with the election of donald trump and it showed how much power i dont think its true i think. Every election people say for the last two or three elections everyones always said its a twitcher election when obama was elected specially the kind of liberal intelligentsia the elites on the the west and the east coast they all said oh finally twitter is a social media is able to generate. A candidate of the people. And finally social media is able to disinter mediate all the institutions of politics and produce a high quality leader and i think in some senses that was true certainly obamas smart use of social media broke through a lot of the clutter and then four years later eight years after obama was initially elected we have trump who shows the really dark side of social media so i think what obama and trump show is that social media itself like all these Internet Technologies are just technologies. Theres no reason to suppose that they produce either good or bad. Leaders i think social media produced in my opinion anyway a very good leader in obama and then a very bad one in trump and. So to blame or to blame social media on the one hand or two sets the demonizing or idealize it i think is the wrong way of doing nothing in there its just a tool that people outside of the United States it does seem like a partisan Facebook Post for instance which for which post partisan Facebook Posts are more sicked after news on the established media this question is why do you think people turn to posting facebook as opposed to the Mainstream Media space well its still not a question that reflects the echo chamber nature of social media which is a huge problem but its not just a huge problem in america its a huge problem well why where people are. Retreating into that try and when they use particular facebook but also twitter they use these scenes to confirm what they already think but its also true of television. In america for work says let me just finish this point about a television in america you have an echo chamber Television Culture where the left watch m. S. M. B c and the right watch fox and it doesnt really give them any news it simply lectures them and confirms what they already think social media is part of that but to pick out social media and say that the parts of media. Innocence i think would be a mistake the question is do you mean like the social media gives them what they want to hear it when more than the Mainstream Media well theres two kinds of people when it comes to. Understanding the way either you want to understand the world and its complexity and then you read the Washington Post or the New York Times over wall street journal which. It gives or listen to the b. B. C. Which i think reflects the world in that complexity they all have political biases but not so dramatic that they shape their content or you want the world to conform to what you already think and then you then you use facebook or twitter or you watch fox and n. B. C. And everything you think is automatically confirmed the problem i think with Digital Media is it seems to be enabling that second category that Second Community but there are many other forces which are pushing that its very disturbing because what you see is the disappearance of the middle the creation of these parties and camps and fewer and fewer people are actually opening to listen to other peoples arguments will talk a bit about the dictionary causes i mean youre on twitter yourself but you say youre a writer so you need to be and there are so many people who are freelancers and they also have to be on twitter how do you get away with an election if its a must that you work i mean are we going to get to a point when its going to mandatory to have an account. Were doing magistri you mean on the law you know not on the law but like if we dont have a twitter friends this. Im a media person right and im not Technology Friendly and ive been accused by times of not being active on face not being active well instead of because thats the thing to do do you think you got to get to a point where you cant be successful unless you are in that. Im not sure i think theres two responses to that i think that we live increasingly in a freelance economy where media becomes our platform to build our brands now maybe you have a full time job so you dont need to be continually trying to get work but for many people using twitter or facebook unable to get work whether its in media or many other things. But i also think that theres a. Its beginning on the west coast and things always begin on the west coast hasnt. And backlash against social media and actually the smartest the most independent the most interesting people particularly young people are actually giving up social media and i think over the next few years what were going to see is the only losers will be left on social media trailing. Ten years. And thats a debatable statement can you and losing your ammeter there thing in the sense that these things always works exactly and i know ive got kids who are bored with social media and most of their friends are bored with social media certainly facebooks. Gone out of fashion then people are on facebook all people parents and grandparents young people wouldnt be caught dead on facebook now the question is maybe theyll go from facebook to instagram or snap chat but at some point i think this generation of socalled Digital Natives is just going to get bored of all this thing so i think and ive been saying this for years that the real reaction to social media and technology is going to come from the Digital Natives the people who have grown up with this stuff and i just bored and disgusted when they just going to go back to the basics are they going to go with Something LikeArtificial Intelligence and connect their brains to a computer and i think what youre going to see is an interesting new book out called the revenge of analog you seen in the way in which this young generation is embrace Vinyl Records you see in the way in which they now buy most skin pads you see in the way that theyre starting to write letters again youre seeing it in the way in which the physical books survived against the digital book the digital book did well for a few years and now no ones reading on no ones reading on there can go there or buying books again so i think this new generation will rediscover analog and i think youll see analog becoming increasingly fashionable in the same way for example is when you have more and more self driving cars. Youll find the manual cars will become more and more fashionable young people think for them so theyre not stupid and theres always been this idea that somehow young people are all going to just immersed himself in digital and do nothing else and i think thats a fundamental misreading of how innovative and independent thinking young people are so lets talk a bit about jobs for instance corporations like google and amazon killing off smaller businesses people losing their jobs to Services Like google or is this because the internet is a bad thing or its because its inevitable and its a natural progression of technology. I wouldnt say either things the idea of internet being a bad thing is a reactionary statement the idea that technology is bad is i think an unwise position to take but theres nothing inevitable about it either whats happened with the internet is that youve had the socalled Network Effect which lends itself to. A very small handful of Companies Dominating the economy one of the mistakes people made about the internet was that this suppose a democracy is ational people thought would create lots of companies lots of different innovators lots of different entrepreneurs successful entrepreneurs reality is you only have one winner in each sector facebook in social media google in each car sharing. Amazon an ecommerce so what you have is a very typical really development but exaggerated in economics we had it in the Industrial Revolution with the emergence of monopolies and the way to respond to that is in the way weve always done historically with legislation. And to trust legislation the idea. Technologys to blame for this i think is in this the. Break right now when we come back well continue to and sort of entrepreneur and author. Dangers of social media and internet in todays world stage and. 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Now were back with andrew cain internet answer person or you touched on a con the monopoly in the internet whats wrong with this huge giant if they are not going stale i mean theyre developing all the time and monopolies are a bad theres two positions on the pizza t. O. Very well and second value entrepreneur investor thinks monopolies are good things theyre a good thing if youre a monopolist and youre the winner theyre a bad thing because they dont enable innovation when you had a monopolist like microsoft. They destroyed innovation they destroyed Small Companies google and amazon while they are innovators in their own way are also against innovation because theyre trying to dominate their markets like any company would lets also mean thats a good thing working on i mean that row and drabness cars arent the innovators maybe theyre doing they are innovators but theyre doing it in the context of their business theyre doing it to make sure that we use their drugs their driverless because the idea for example that google. Already essentially is the big data business own. Owns many of the other categories of the digital market should also the control the self driving car business is terrified google already knows everything we do through of and i think is eighty six percent of all users use the android platform if we all get in our self driving cars and they know where we are all the time theyre not evil theyre big theyre not big brother but what theyll do is continually. So the idea that google should control that entire platform i think is is is not only dangerous but also doesnt enable real innovation because googles interest is benefiting their Search Engine its not real innovation so what we need is a new wave of innovators new kinds of operating systems which are more open which enable more entrepreneur and more kinds of innovation you touched upon an interesting topic which is. To go already knows everything controls all the data. And out of the American Civil Liberty Union and current that facebook and twitter actually provide it user data to police to create surveillance programs and then the social media giants are saying no you know no way theyre banning developers from using the data for surveillance but im thinking using government im going to give up on opportunities like that. Lets be clear its not as if twitter or google is looking at your information or my information saying oh you know theyre shopping today or theyre doing something they shouldnt be doing the problem with google in particular is not that theyre evil or not even that theyre snooping their problem is their Business Model the problem is they give away their Search Engine for free and this Business Model then requires them to essentially collect data which then they pass on to advertisers so the big debate today is Business Models i think i much prefer the Business Model of a company like apple which sells products and doesnt collect data so its not companies the. The bad was bad a Business Models and the Business Model that i think has been a profound mistake in the internet and eventually will be recognized as a mistake is the free model where we get Services FacebookGoogle Instagram for free and by using them they acquire our data and then sell that data to advertising thats the core of the surveil of this new what people are calling the surveillance economy and ultimately were going to wake up to it and were going to choose to pay for us services once again and protect our privacy. There is the topic of terrorism where shes very actual right now when you see a terrorist tweeting and calling upon jihad whew we i dont think anyone here i dont think anyone. Twitter or anyone else would say. That that should be i want to say aloud the question is first the whether or not you allow is not much you can do to stop it and its pretty much allowed there twitting everybody really allowed im in a study not allowed to. License has what is less social media is in a world where they can have a watch and a social media is but they stumble out to post beheadings. You dont need to be allowed to post beheadings to recruit fresh people to go and fight for isis but i think to twitter is made every effort to close down. Isis or accounts that are supposed to recruit isis terrorists i think again the question is wrong is the the issue is again Business Models and media take you true for example we know that theres. A lot of dreadful content on you to the headings which seems to get through the filter the problem with you true business Business Model anyones allowed to post anything and the Business Model of view true which makes it such a Profitable Company is not hiring a lot of adults is allowing. Everyone to post whatever they want and selling advertising around that. The traditional media model is to cure rate is to create gatekeepers have editors and professionals like you who will determine what will appear on it what we need is to convince and perhaps legally require Companies Like twitter or facebook to hire editors to make sure that the content thats published on that network isnt offensive particularly when it comes to when it comes to terrorism in that sense you kill two birds with one stone on the one hand you can guarantee that the content isnt offensive and on the other hand you create a lot of new jobs in india too but arent you walking a thin line there because i know already that theres legislative steps being taken to destroy this socalled dangerous contents were it content for example for facebook in israel. You dont see a potential abuse here i mean israeli army duz my post is dangerous but isnt that just an opinion. Thats always true with free speech i mean this is been an ongoing debate for hundreds of years whos to say what people can say for frey should you be allowed to insult people should you be allowed to. Say things which offend other people its an ongoing debate so this is a new problem again with social media is that a lot of content which everyone agrees shouldnt be allowed to be broadcast live beheadings for example is slipping through the cracks because of the Business Model of this media that doesnt have curators now facebook has responded in some ways so this is going to shoot debate about fake news huge debate about. Unacceptable content and. Vention he did in response was hire six thousand more editors thats the only way you solve this only having human manually watch a check you have to look. If i. If i slapped you in this interview or i started taking off my clothes or if i started chanting jihad these slogans this wouldnt appear on your network because you would decide that its inappropriate the only reason this will appear on the network is because it passes through the filters you are decided that i might be an interesting person to interview the problem with the you true Business Model is anything can be put up by anybody and