Theyve been living in spades were anxious about their health and their pensions because now they are protected and able to avail themselves of the local schemes and theyre anxious to know what their future is and in the same way europeans will be working in adverted for years and years. Anxious because they havent got a piece of paper to show that theyre entitled to live here and thats been the battle in the past of trying to ensure they have something more than an email because we dont want the repetition of the wind of us condo to ensure that they know what their status is i dont think that is a little problem in substance i believe it will work itself out but people are anxious because they have got a piece of paper to show that they are have settled status here they get settled status if theyve been here 5 years theres no difficulty. Then you get a please settle status if its a period shorter than that then they can reapply the full settle status but just a vote of all the people and also advised people who have got advisors counselors lawyers whatever theyre the people probably at the end of the working scale anxious and our job has been weve sent delegates members of the committee of the pas to the headquarters of the home office that is operating the scheme in liverpool to find out what is happening on the over the over hof i think its a over the 1000000 up of the 3000000 people in this country have now had settled status and the numbers are going up and i think. What they can but what are the numbers i mean you rich i want to get on to the to the left of this is away from all the procedures and all the drama in westminster this is what is the scale here because we see millions of people are British Nationals are in the e. U. And there are millions of those here in britain tell me about this letter that youve written not pretty to tell but to the brics it secretary. Well were asking their go to the 3rd of september we havent had a reply yet asking for an update of the position of all the. British People Living in europe regarding their health their pension provision of that car and we want an update given that the government is pledged to levy of of the 31st of october an update of what their position is and then we will someone witnesses i suspect to ask the government to close examine them as to how efficient and how wide and how comprehensive the provision is to give assured still people who are very very very well theyd know that paula bench is poor weak. It will commit you can sit so we can do our job supervising what is happening so theres new scrutiny and at the same time Boris Johnson has been very clear they would rather no deal breaks it by the 30. You just said the 35. 00 whereas parliament is saying no theres not going to begin to deal on the 31st which means presumably the meat and potatoes of this letter its. Its up for grabs as part of the negotiations whether it be the irish sea backstop whether it be whatever citizenship brady i think anything can happen but in the meantime were not able to give a show that people. Regarding the fish should see of the scheme operated by the home office and when we come back we will sit and consider it but of course as a former attorney general youre very aware that in these 5 weeks Parliament May not be sitting but courts will be sitting weve already seen that recent cases of the Supreme Court and other lower level courts being talked about john major former Prime Minister gina miller bringing case is denied about process presumably if anything came up as regards the issues in this letter of a National Status in this country a British National stage in the e. U. Before the 7th of october. Someone could bring it up in court or something to avoid being the prospect of deportation what could be it could be but we have this once parliament closes down and does not sitting this very long period to pull the geisha is really. So fundamentally dangerous for ordinary people ordinary people of this card who are anxious to be satisfied that their lights are protected with a speaker. Did seem to be slightly concerned about it but its all legal its part of the british political process the government is quite entitle to do what its been doing as regards purgation brazil. Yes well i said that quite clearly in a one interview i had with the times recently that i. Know the procedures have been followed its the Party Ministers duty to advise the queen extended duty and a convention of the queen accept the advice of the privatised. Of the house is that. I suspect i may be wrong i suspect the court will hold that all the procedures how be taken but that doesnt go back to the problem the basic problem is that there is no paula bent to supervise the government to make the government and that is the heart of the problem and is that not the reason why many are resorting to the courts theres been a new book where former Supreme Court justice would sumption lot of legal debate about what is the rule of the Supreme Court in britain can the Supremes Court overrule the Prime Minister you mentioned the the queen presumably the queen is of no importance in any of this she is just a figurehead but do we live in a Constitutional Monarchy or a democracy my guess is that the courts will not intervene as i said its a surrogate. I think i could be along i would be of a surprised if the courts intervened in what is a procedural matter which seems to be had followed a political decision. Quite unhappy that the courts are the vote a poor but we have a system here which we are very very proud of of judicial review where ministers and indeed public bodies can be called before the court if there is a decision has been unbelievable or they havent followed the correct procedures so perfect title to do it but whether they would succeed. But i may be wrong because you mention when russia interesting the former Supreme Court justice goes actually claimed whilst saying that we should be proud of our system and so on like. All of the big lawyers in this country the system does politically protect minorities from ethnic or religious discrimination because windrush was a clear example of where the system did not work as regards what drains a maze government was doing it was a big bug ive caused a lot of and desire to people who have been here maybe if of the age of 5 or maybe less can happen to black people thats what we want as a committee to ensure that it doesnt happen the youve appeared bases or youve appeared nationals here or British National in you up we want to ensure there is no there petition. Because of a failure of a system and i think if i guess correctly that wed be going back to this issue time and time again it is a question of cost but when it comes to the exile people that will have to consider really what view is on the lack of air. Other than an email you mentioned emails goes todays deadline day for Martha Johnson according to the law has pasta on monday he has to give up emails whatsapp messages around the will there be no eyebrows raised that has been one of the sources of the like coming out of downing street saying you know what. The government may break the law i mean on sirius on Mainstream Media programs in this country there will be debates what happens if the Prime Minister breaks the law what have you made of it and is it a loud 2 were not allowed to forget but b. Who breaks the law i think in public lose a 3rd of his cabinet i suspect the lord chancellor their tenure judge of the year to the lord chancellor is obliged by a specific act of parliament with the status of the office was changed to defend the rule of law i have my guess is that there are many people in the government who would not only be unhappy but would find it very difficult to serve and they got they dont know and if you were to any general today in geoffrey caucuses and you knew that say one of Dominic Cummings people in downing street was Briefing Journalists saying you know war if necessary well break the law would you resign as attorney general i would be sending for the Prime Minister to explain what the situation is. I would not be able to serve and would you actually i mean it seems such an obvious table to serve in a government of that kind i would give you a chance to explain himself but i suspect no lawyer and you. Would want to obey the government where there is a serious expectation the Prime Minister intends to break the law i hope this is not an event to comment but although its not a comment where there is any substance behind it just finally and very briefly away from breaks away from all of these debates since David Camerons resume the beginning of all sturdy the bankers bailouts legal aid has been caught and access to justice has been cut according to activist groups any chance of something changing in the near future for those seeking legal aid theres nothing of substance but we have. Come to an end the matter of the lords 3 weeks ago that. Is coming. To an end that the posting should be opened to jordan ordinary people have access to the law i mean theyve abolished it a great portion of family law of the. Of the criminal. Have to work see times as hard probably for the same pay as they had 20 years ago theyve been cut and cut and cut and i would feel very unhappy to advise anyone to going to the practice of the criminal law and we desperately need good pictish has to defend the rights of citizens morris thank you. After the break with the rest set to continue with the Worlds Largest arms fair today in london revolutionary or just be to be a complicity in war crimes and speaks about a lifetime of visual dissent. On the ground. Today there are good terrorists and bad edits the bad news in yemen the United States deems to be a threat the good those who work in syria the cia and the u. S. Military were engaged in covert actions really throughout the world. Where they were assassinating populist leaders they were backing up right Wing Military juntas funding in our means death squads theres no any more because theres always a small. Really good. Profit. Welcome back todays 46 years since the u. S. U. K. Backed coup that killed Salvador Allende of chile a coup supported by just 5 u. S. Official john bolton well here is the arguable favorite to be britains next Prime Minister paying tribute to id and where. Most peoples are. British. Coffee is. Just what it was an attempt to. Kill a whole generation that leader unlike u. K. Prime minister Boris Johnson oppose u. S. U. K. Policy that arguably led to another anniversary today the 911. 00 attacks on washington and new york were carried out by supporters of angloamerican backing for the budget heading in afghanistan let alone islam ists in yugoslavia today britain has a Prime Minister who attacks opponents of alqaeda across the middle east johnson and alqaeda let alone new labor blairites were even warned about him. By the leader who defeated them in syria or for half an hour you put a bet on the shape of the toda welcome to how people come and i replied a fear for understand people who would have felt for his ideas and did i want to. Go with him i can with a phone from him Boris Johnson supported nato violence that arguably aided al qaeda supporters in syria afghanistan and iraq but his support for the tory new labor blairites war in libya which created a safe haven for al qaeda in the mediterranean is more nuanced British Foreign secretary Boris Johnson has said the removal of former libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi in 2011 has proved to be a humanitarian and security tragedy that was speaking on his return to the u. K. Up to today because its immediately he eyed the many rebel parties in the country to try and reach a compromise what does Boris Johnson know about David Camerons catastrophic destruction of africas richest macavity country that others dont as foreign secretary he would have been privy to top secret documents pertaining to m i 6 and in my 5 relations with islam is groups in libya alleged m i 5 complicity has been raised by the father of 8 year old sufi resource the youngest victim of the Manchester Arena terror attack as an area grounded concept i put the blame on m i 5 and our government for this war. Because the nearby woods are thinking about some a long time ago now new questions of emerged because johnsons government wants evidence about the islamist mantra serina atrocity to be heard in secret johnsons new home secretary pretty patel says its all about National Security this from someone who infamously resigned over covert meetings with supporter of alqaeda linked groups in syria Benyamin Netanyahu he was one of the last leaders to meet johnson before parliament was shut down on monday and all this as even u. K. State mandated media has followed this program in this channel in reporting connections between the u. K. And those who celebrate. September the 11th we expensed our aid money and our jihad. It is unfortunately strengthening big stream ists and the islamic groups well joining me now is a chronicler of britains socalled war on terror he is britains foremost political artist banksy has had 2 m. John birger says his work is holding the Royal College of arts professor of political odd peter cannot his book visual dissent is out now by a brutal press joins me now thanks so much of a coming on tell me about the book and if you look through it how it seems to differ so much from the arguably advertiser lead i dont know young british artists and all the rest of it they get all the attention when it comes to british yeah well so i want to do a book that wasnt seen as an art but was actually 50 years of history because one of my just to get through to young people and to make history live was i think its very important to know about the events so ive done 50 years since i saw in 1989 doing political stuff going right through to this year and talked about a particular subject within nature and then talked talked about what i did about it in terms of on look so you know lets explore some of that because obviously weve just been having this scores of people have been arrested you know. Just down the road from me in east london theres a double page spread in in here on the largest Manufacturing Company in this country it makes weapons be a way being a b. It seems to be done with an arm of the government now and its selling arms to regimes a. Totally and to human rights and its selling arms for the saudi arabians thats why you know its because. We know what is going on the saudi arabia especially in yemen. You know the weapons are killing civilians women and children and i say in the book that they will have these sort of the logos and be a who you know they they say were doing this for the people of both us and all of this and they put themselves over as a sort of peace Loving Company that selling something but the reality is theyre making weapons well. And they state when they presumably say the government i was them to export these weapons and yeah i was the ira have to train the pilots bombing bombing yemen im going to ask you just mentioned already the accessibility that was so important to you over your odds. Not of the magazine covers as well as the finality you did in calories around the world. For magazines nowadays i didnt see or would go to the front pages of the news like you know i mean papers of become more on a dime in the sort of in this country in images and they tend to put film stars on the cover papers think that they the cartoonist can say what they want to say because its a cartoon so its going to also whereas if you do a montage they think people wont understand that its something constructed and theyll think its an actual picture they have all these weird ideas of people on broad health until i became a pieces. You know. The book begins it 50 years ago with kissinger. Century ago when the new labor loon conservative ministers of a came to have their photograph taken with enriquez and sure that we can see the one in the book here i mean. That kicks off the whole book way way the importance of what i mean i think he he represents the sanitization of someone that to me was a warmonger in terms of fear and im combo did he actually instigated all the experimentation with the weapons or the napalm he was very much but the brains behind that and now hes seen as a very. Honored elder statesman and i think thats what can happen to people like that you know if they live long enough people actually forget what theyve done we had the g. 8 recently or the g 7 g 7 has been you know in beer its theres a whole selection of pictures here that you did for the g. 8 as it is then before russia was left over little change i mean they did say they gave someone a for a Climate Change i think but tell me about does a lot want to do saying that because the it was in the end the skin and i want to find that people could. Use so what i did with those i put them all up on on the internet different sizes high rez and a lot of red so people could actually make their own versions you know what do you think would you would you do on t. V. The beer its g 7 john barry rolling into town talking about the issues of the day the kind of concerns that you have the but i think theyre talking about them in terms of theatrical rather than reality and one of one of the pictures is. 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