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Transcripts For RT Going Underground 20240714

Imagine a leader of a european country standing in the capital city with a megaphone at their central bus station like natanya who did on election day and saying that the jews are coming out to vote in large numbers i mean the whole world would come down on that european leader and condemn what would seem like a flagrant act of antisemitism on the other side of the political spectrum you had benny gantz you are lucky Party Together with a Vidor Lieberman who now is the kingmaker who completely diligent in my eyes the ultraorthodox r. A. D sector of society saying that theyre against israel theyre not zionist are not contributing to Israeli Society well hang on a minute before we get to kingmakers hes saying that now who is warning about our bogus and these kind of indicate it is only because im an ota of the joint list has indeed done better than expected that now is right. I think actually in a 10 year who shot himself in his own foot by him attacking the arab sector im at remember just a week ago he wanted to pass special legislation through parliament that would have installed cameras specifically at every polling stations why did he want to do that because he actually wanted to lower the voter turnout of the arabs but the opposite happened the arabs saw themselves under assault and they came out 10 percent more voters in the arab sector than in the april election so an attorney who might have actually cost himself more bad than good on the other hand you are right that the arabs did much better this time and i think that it was a combination of a all the lists coming together as opposed to what happened in april when they ran as 2 separate parties but also the fact that they felt under siege and when they felt under siege they came together and they decided to vote which for them should hopefully bring about a positive result im not sure that the c. C. T. V. Camera initiative got their legal go ahead but i dont know if theyve seen this mockery of report story saying that who would try to use a an invasion of gaza to postpone the elections do you think theres any truth in the story i dont know it hasnt been confirmed ive read it ive heard it is much criticism as i could have for newtown you know who i would still find it hard to believe in imagine that she would be willing to take his country to war to try to avoid an election but then again look anything is possible i would hope that thats not i mean how much of a racist is he in the sense that under him the jewish nation state will came through and now of course im an ode of the joint list who did better than expected says this this this is no good at all and privileges jews over christians and muslims. I dont know that i would call the 10 you who are racist i think that its on yahoo is is playing a game of populism and popular politics right and sometimes does use and diligent. Mises and uses terms in language that i would definitely caution against but i dont think that hes a racist but i would also wonder whats happening in the arab sector the fact that this joint list is made up of parts like the bolide faction which completely denies the legitimacy of a jewish state in the state of israel i think that thats a problem i think that theres a problem when the joint list for so long and these arab parties have been working more for the palestinians then for their own constituents theres rampant crime you know many guns and illegal arms are held within israeli arab towns theres something that needs to change no doubt its quite a coalition but. It isnt being clear as clear as you want him to be about guns and the coalition what do you make of the fact he said that Donald Trumps support for Israeli Occupation of syrias goal and i and the support of a complete occupation is cheap and cynical provocation will that be something that will negotiate with benny gantz over if he wants to become the leader of israels opposition but i dont see im a new to joining a coalition maybe he becomes leader of the opposition but i heard members of the faction of his party today who said that they wouldnt even support their own party leader becoming the head of opposition remember that the head of opposition has to be voted in by members of the opposition so its not just your the automatically the Largest Party you get that position and by a lot which is a portion of his party does not recognize the state and therefore they wouldnt want their leader to be a symbol of the state which is that about position ok but in the run up to the election israel bombed iraq bombed lebanon and of course bomb syria now you have a special knowledge quite apart from being editor in chief in the post shot a strike i understand pompei 0 may have read it and certainly comes in to us by dick cheney do you think this election will change the status. As far as trump has the status of the Golan Heights in syria but i had no i dont think so you know trump has recognized israel sovereignty over the Golan Heights that was done back in march on the eve of the last election in april no one of their country has recognized israels sovereignty and rule of law over the Golan Heights but you know i would say that ultimately israel yes did hunker the Golan Heights from syria in the 6 day war now and see 67 but im unclear as to who exactly will the world who want israel to give the Golan Heights to would be to bashar a law side who is massacred and butchered half a 1000000 of his own people would it be to the isis which is still operating inside parts of syria would be the rain ians that are in trenching themselves in syria would be to the russians that are in syria so for all the criticism that people might have about the Golan Heights israel is keeping not just israel safe but its helping to keep it safe what israel did in my book and try to shrink by taking out a Nuclear Reactor that Bashar Al Asad was building together with north korea and destroying that reactor built inland near the Euphrates River in a region called heroes youre rich in 2014 was taken over by isis imagine for a moment that isis got its hands on a Nuclear Reactor a Nuclear Material a Nuclear Weapons this would have been a nightmare for the entire world israel saved the world when it took out that Nuclear Reactor back in 2000 so i mean i should say id be did there is or i want to say to you that presumably russian turkish iranian officials will say far from helping isis day yes in syria it was israel it was britain it was the United States that was defacto helping those islam as groups in their support for the overthrow of outside of the area thats absurd thats completely absurd not true israel cannot help isis israel its participation if at all in the war in syria was to actually absorb thousands of syrians who were wounded taken into israeli hospitals and give them. Western Level Medical care thats how israel played a role in what happened in syria otherwise it stayed on the sidelines now it continues to ensure that red lines are not crossed and weaponry is not transferred to his ally and he runs us not establish bases from what were to launch rockets and attacks like the drones that were laden with explosives and wanted to fly into israel just a few weeks ago would be ron is doing trying to create a sheer crescent between iran iraq syria and lebanon is not just a threat to israel although its immediate for us because its along our borders this is a problem for the entire world well i we hope the Iranian Ambassador to london will be coming on the show soon i just going to have finally ask about the israeli lobby because you may have heard the Jeremy Coleman the labor leader here in britain is a favorite according to the bookies to be the next Prime Minister how is this general election in israel going to work visa v the israeli lobby here in britain because presumably you have the Jerusalem Post alone whatever government happens in israel theyre not too fond of Jeremy Corbett were not sure about the term the israel lobby it sounds too mischievous and like some sort of Conspiracy Theory that i might have read back in the 1930 s. But put that aside for a moment the israels position and Jeremy Corbyn israel doesnt get involved in the elections of other countries what it does do though is it tries to make sure that antisemitism is fox antisemitism is thrown away and at a summit is not his mates be saying thats not tolerated and not acceptable sadly Jeremy Corbett is champion and to etch empennage antisemitism i know youve had him on the show and thats perfectly fine but this is a man who not only turns a blind eye to antisemitism to gets into bed with some of israels worst enemies enemies not just of israel but of the United States and of the United Kingdom enemies like hizbollah like hamas like the rain ians that seek only the destruction and death and. Pain throughout the world if thats if that is the person who will be elected as the Prime Minister britain so be it but i think that we should all be aware of the danger that comes with someone who like someone of that caliber Jeremy Corbyn becoming Prime Minister what does that send what message does that send to the anti semites around the world and what end message does that send to the enemies of the western world in other words the rain ians hizbullah muscle kite and others it will if a man like that can lead a country like yeah coca well visit invite Jeffrey Coben on the show again thank you very much. Thank you after the break. Big floyds roger waters may have sung for him but the worlds most famous publisher Julian Assange will not be released when he finishes his london prison sentence tomorrow we talk to wiki leaks and after a summer of fracking breaks in Northern England the director of a new film about fighting environmental degradation just showing at londons raindance Film Festival 2 more. Through of going underground. The moment. He. Goes to work. On the. Recall no pulse when he does it all of the false so. You can sleep. With bullets and. Just wrote a song to me shes on that you know town a song follow my p. P. Down at this time i dont. Need to promote. The d. C. The contin the political use of the Police Reports for the way. But still. The police will. Join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to us from the world of politics sports business im show business ill see you then. Welcome back to more of the worlds most famous journalist publisher was supposed to be released after a 50 week jail term for jumping bail u. K. Authorities they were refusing to release the revealer of major nation war crimes Julian Assange even though the u. N. Claims he has been tortured in london joining me now via skype from iceland is the editor in chief of wiki leaks christian reference and christian thanks for coming back on the show before we even get to all of that how easy saw him a few days ago a couple of weeks ago i understand hes been denied correspondent is still in the hospital wing is still in hospital in a storm or 2 weeks ago is that sort time ive seen him. Since he was all in there in april 11th. Somewhat improved the conditions there are. Always use a little bit american when i walk out of there at that horrible. And is it true that these subjects are something called controlled moves. Yes underpinning cases and shes really was what went inside to. The empty corridors when he hears water from one place to another and so he that everythings attended to increases isolation is been spending most of the time in his cell in de facto soldiery confinement which is horrible is a somewhat changed in the last few days for a couple of weeks its still a very severe situation so from tomorrow youll be able to say as an organization that your founder is imprisoned not for alleged allegations in sweden or for jumping bail appointment you believe he is being jailed by u. K. Authorities so only because he revealed war crimes. Yes i would have said that about the entire time that he has and because its all linked together he is on refuge in Ecuador Embassy because of threats of tradition and so its for that has now been proved to be concerned that he was just was justified but formally no served their sentence for jumping bail the most severe sentence for for that crime in the u. K. Or probably in in lot of days. And now he is formally on remand to waiting the actual issue here in late february that the extradition hearing from the United States of course u. K. Media here has been saying why didnt his lawyers apply for bail when district judge Vanessa Wright gave him an opportunity to do so his lawyer said no he didnt want to apply for freedom. Ertl absolute farce and. Astonishing that this is. Discussed in this manner the carrying the other day when these jerks came into the chambers as he basically admitted that he had just been assigned to the case and was not the media with the details of it is going to be the extradition case judge this was not supposed to be a bail hearing they had no preparation for that this was a mere formality this is day in court so this is a extraordinary of course the lawyers were not there prepared to actually. Put forward arguments for his bail that was supposed to be a later states so in a very biased fashion z. T. Clears that that he had asked absconded before and therefore was denied bail period yet he said she said you know your former colleague has a history of a squandering and i have to say his attorneys are just lawyers they dont submit themselves to any media scrutiny that appear on any t. V. Programs these so youre saying the legal team were not prepared for the bail hearing. Well i mean not with the arguments or with with that with the fluid support bearing that there were there was supposed to happen later this was not a day in court where this was supposed to be argued but this goes to show i mean what and so of course what news melzer the United Nations pressure up or toronto or to set up how corrupts and how in stress that the entire system in the u. K. Including the judiciary and the media has become when it comes to Julian Assange and weve seen it before u. K. Courts earlier this year and this sort of was a confirmation that what neil smelters said seems to be true that Julian Assange. Does not have a chance of a fair trial into it as far as you understand it at the moment kennie appeal the continuing detention on remand ahead of extradition to the United States who want him for alleged crimes that would imprison him for a 175 yet well actually lawyers to answer but i am certain the it has been discussed that it is a is of a little importance for julian to get out of belmarsh at least or at least to get out of this this situation how on earth is a person who is in solitary we were almost the entire day. With very little access to information. How can he prepare for the biggest most Important Court case in his lifetime the extradition hearing in late february this is a question of life and death is hearing and only and i can inform you here that that about 2 weeks ago was that was the 1st time that the lawyers were able to leave documents with him to read and study for 5 months he has not had that access. This is this is absurd of thanks to julia sanji obviously when people talk about an imminent war with iran we know of. Tens of thousands of People Killed by the u. S. Military the collateral murder video Chelsea Manning as well of course is also in jail in the United States whats it like running we kill leaks now without Julian Assange next to you. As regards facts and leaks that might be able to prevent nato countries going into another war in the middle east well of course were still open for business and. You know people want to give us information that could stop the escalation of the situation for example lower the middle news. On we can you start or could there is a drop box for information its hard for me as a journalist basically the scene is unfolding in my close friend in this situation not just because of him or lloyds really difficult for him but for sure all journalists and for journalism in general because as weve talked about frequently this extradition case will set a precedent which was will define journalism in the future Christian Robinson thank you well wiki leaks revealed to the world the dirty mining war in africa and to more londons raindance Film Festival screens thirst for justice it reveals a catastrophic Drinking Water contamination crisis affecting millions in the most polluting country of all the usa the films director the un whos here joins me now they are welcome to going underground so even before we Start Talking about the film which happens in the film we hear about it you were arrested whilst making this film just

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