Allowing refugees to move migrants to move in their efforts to enter europe so i think the turkish government and president gun made the correct decision in the circumstances which is that turkey really was not in a position to advance and to throw back the syrian army back to the original sort she sees for our lives that were agreed in september 2018 and the result is that they pulled back and have allowed the syrian army to retain its military gains and theyve taken steps to the way towards a reopening the highways but it is but this hasnt resolved the issue here because turkey still refuses to start dealing with this jarvis element that is in bedded in and we its take 2 steps forward one step back its not resolving anything and a lot of people are saying this is a temporary solution to a problem that only turkey can now solve because we have to remind our viewers the Syrian Government sees these jihadists elem. Its as terrorists and they must be dealt with and theyre in the status quo cannot be maintained Everyone Wants to somehow maintain this status quo thats true and i think that earlier on miscalculate that. His policy and he didnt realize it that his position is not so exceptional which once was a bloke who was confronting whiston bloke at that time turkey was very important country inside the nato now everybody mention turkey its real place which means it will have to recall kill it and understand that turkey has a limited puts ability its a limited options and thats why this is not going to be the last humiliation for him because he initially wanted. To bring the americans backing him against russia he failed he wants very promptly you know exactly he wanted to bring e. U. Blackmailed them and it didnt work and then he had to come to moscow to bow to putin and make that settlement which is of course temporary settlement because everyone in turkey they are talk actors strategic aim of turkey of course its a might be strengthened its position in the syrian territory autumn is im not saying is. Meant or dont mind a leader a kind of he is a kind of salt but as i said the reality is that turkish possibilities and turkish good goals are not coincide with. One of the things i really find surprising because with the end of the cold war and we have this global reassessment going on. Need to still looking for a mission to exist turkey she actually should be in a very strong position as a regional player but it seems to have it goes from one misstep to the other its not playing to his advantages it constantly pleas to its disadvantage for me its remarkable well i think you dont have to prove that god made huge mistakes and its a not just to quote his statements in the last 2 weeks 1st russia must get out of the way and let me deal with you know on the 2nd one i have no problem with russia so basically contradicting self so many times about this is why does he have to deal with someone why you see in syria and says anybody gadget question this is a 3000000 what are the turks doing in syria is exactly the question but the more stable think is the edge over the western media and the western elite because i slightly disagree with that expense he says that they would not support program let me call to the headline of the spiegel magazine right before the meeting between god and why the europeans must support thats the kind of language they are going to do logical ok youre both right the article said that but i dont exactly care if i got because they didnt do i need to exactly but the more the more i see where youre saying was that article from Andrew Higgins times right after the meeting it will be prepared in advance most of it because it could be a just you know minutes after the meeting and that so he gets right russia so far has refrained taken inside turkey because putin was hesitant about making and ill try to tack on nato territory nato territory territory kind of weaponry and it leaves is need to take a tree this is how they view it this is made look times and why dont you know bloomberg is another thing that stunned me you know. Yesterday they came out with the headline the agreement in a more school is bad news for the west just imagine you know by doing so if theyre fighting there will be both the gates open the floodgates and the more standard will all to come with that you know that he can seize some kind of a settlement settlement between russia and turkey because he writes putin previously or what it has failed in his previously successful efforts to cultivate new star began in the hope that turkey the eastern most member of nato would prashar saw discord within the United States led military ok ok so this is little you may know but this is because its actually on its head let me go back to. Deimos i mean our media expert here of wonderful research but the fact of the matter is if you look at the secretary mike pompei o during this process he was egging the turks on to confront russia because he believed that russia would back down i mean the thing is is that they dont theyve never wanted a resolution in syria that they cant control well everyone lost control pompei or no ones going to listen to and of course you have the hot air from the e. U. No all of this is happening on the ground and they are going to determine the final outcome its taking longer than we all thought but they will go ahead alex well that well this is exactly the point because of course what happened was that yes there were some people in the u. S. Government and in and in the e. U. And in the media who wanted to give full throated support to turkey and not just verbal simple stronger simple. Design however the pentagon clearly and. Unequivocally said no they are not prepared to go head to head with the russians on turkey of india province and its important. To stress its not just the Syrian Government that recognizes these groups needly programs as terrorists the entire International Community does the United Nations does the United States does and the European Union does and i think this is perhaps the single biggest flaw in the entire media narrative well no it doesnt exactly you didnt you just said flaw i will i would change the word fraught ok this is the biggest fraud in the media here are jumping ahead. Here i think that. Could a situation its clear that americans are tired of turkey and in america there is a very serious critical position towards their ground and his policy 2nd america is trying to bring back its troops from afghanistan and from other countries of the middle east and nobody is going to increase american involvement in this area especially when you have elections forthcoming and when trance or many times try is holding its thumb on the scale of exactly that this is the waste of money of a stove for its a waste of lives which means in this situation and then a 2nd important thing gives. The west the especially europe they are tired of turkey and theyre gone and nobody is looking through their fingers and that he is organizing a base car once or for refugees towards the border or european youre moving ferreting out is it is repaired in syria to libya exactly which means all is rhetorical in the sense that when it to support turkey we need to show a unity over the worst. Just you know. Its exhausted itself your team up into little old little each its not having any impact on the russia and the russian leaders thats why putin was so strong in the so strong position and he was very tough during this negligee it was interesting right prior to a demon the 30 seconds they were saying that the russians had blinked they were going to. Play that was all part of the media here 25 seconds the most hilarious news came from the greek government you know the greek government just pretty important that 64 percent of the people whom they arrested on the border with turkey cross into turkey well from afghanistan and also from syria so to me is just finally in their refute genes from other countries not from syria so much for 1000000 refugees from egypt that we have to say well i know there are people in the syrian history one of my syrians want to go home theres a bit of that look at aleppo were going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion and some real news stay with r. T. Im going to fulfill the repeated promises apologies to the people ive come i could be you know we its all bots to. Be ready for a. Little. Pretty good. Now you want to 1st correct that. No. No. Ball be cut. To stand up as a nation some which says something to us and investors but at the. 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Ok so go back to alex in london lets switch gears and talk about the coronavirus and something that i dont think gets enough discussion is the coronavirus and globalization because you see the vulnerability of this this model this neo liberal model for the World Economy its has a lot of weaknesses we have supply chains under under threat we have to were being forced to reconsider borders even though the left always talk when they believe in open borders well have you have an open border and you have a pandemic that is bad news for everyone i mean there are so many elements here and also with the rise of populist movements all across the globe the whole issue of sovereignty and the coronavirus is making people question or smart people question most people dont want to ask serious questions in the media go ahead alex and. This is the most extraordinary response to the Coronavirus Crisis has been the fact that the European Union has very clearly that hes intending to stand by the whole Free Movement because within the European Union this isnt. Time when its been made clear that we have to have controls on movement in order to control the spread of this virus so here we have the audiology globalization if you like confronting the reality of the Decision Makers are going with the n. T. All in g. Rather than face. Such you think that the Decision Makers of this ideology are well protected from this virus theyre always protected from all the downside all the negatives of this ridiculous ideology does less and less for the average person theyre going to be fine dont worry about it alex ok the rest of us was here so why didnt you go to c. N. N. I mean its very true to me because the open borders thing and then and then you look at these supply chains probably get the year wrong so no hope no ones going to sue me i think it was in early 2000 the United States closed down its last factory to produce penicillin its all imported from the outside primarily china and if you look at pharmaceuticals all around the world sourcing comes from china im not blaming china for being the source but globalization allowed that to happen where you have big pharma in the west becoming fabulously fabulously rich because you can outsource from china but when you have a situation like this where a countrys supply chain slow down maybe they can export it because of the virus here i mean no one really seriously thought this out because globalization does put people at risk and were seeing it with this virus i think that took kinks and became clear as a result of this car and i were us when american and openly. Confessed to day dont turf enough equipment to make the tests which was very very surprising because they had any american politician who can tell the people that you know we are the great of country and they were rich. Country in the world and they have only 1000 tests or something because they dont touch equipment which means this is the result of this globalization as you say it and problem which is for me very interesting and i dont know what the answer how much global media is playing that negative role and easy used against china and the chinese economic interest because their money is in china of course think chinese economy be your home or clothes and limiting their expansion is also in global interests although. Thats really one of the smartest people i know in your right because you can throw in this element of racism as well that is being played so well i was in london with alexander machir its actually about a week and a half ago and then the chinatown area was basically vacant ok ok there was a you know give me your that your ideology guys here ok. Well house here but i mean what im trying to get at here is that this isnt because globalization has created allowed these threats to become more real. We have an opportunity to push back and reassess this ideology at the same time because i think that is in our our interest also and also themselves and be curious and later is that the American Medical System is on trial right now lets talk about the ideology well history shows us that in many cases proponents advocates of to go just became their victims you know communist ideology and thats ideology especially when studying destroyed the old communist was a good example so the same story here i think the initial reaction in the United States in the year was its all chinas fault there was a color are there were fake mules you know what chain is gone that is all for. All the mean and they dont mean the eat bats and they bats you know and then suddenly well 1st people in the west dont trust their media off the rush of the new trade to do separation after wards of coverups people taunt droste recitals media you know and then western media spine that it started seriously writing about their risks in San Francisco in the United States suddenly again and youre spiegel magazine they had a huge article about you inequality you know in some Fantasy School if you have a home office youre protected but what about all of these hundreds thousands of people you know all who are delivering food you know the whole are still homeless situation in San Francisco and los exactly what about people who have to use Public Transportation you know who can all be driven. To the office by texas so suddenly this inequality becomes even more visible you know and and all of the talk about. You know huge wide wall which is open for you is suddenly becoming so hollow you know and the european suddenly we have a situation when the borders with italy are open and the disease can spread from there while just recently they refused to take people from syria who belonged to the government side please remember why did the os that his people fight so desperately against. These were missed because they were left no choice europe was taken from syria if they were on the side of the government so i think that these globalist ideology its it trapped itself you know. If we go back to in london but its also a political weapon isnt it ok the chinese arent prepared to glide need they werent transparent the the Trump Administration is slow in reacting i mean its a cudgel i mean they i mean its really quite. Affected people are being impacted in some people are dying but no its a political courage or thats what the good part of the Mainstream Media wants the us theyre not interested in this virus theyre interested in scoring political points in an Election Year i think i do that and i think that was very true at the beginning especially when it was made the current kernel Virus Outbreak in china became as weve just heard. The excuse for 9 anti Chinese Campaign and a horrible one and of course its now being imported back to the United States was an ad campaign against donald trump but of course neither the address the underlying problem of how to deal with the outbreak like this and it seems to me what the coronavirus affair has shown is one you need a strong government and strong will thought routines in a moment of crisis to deal with the matter of a crisis of this nature as china shows china does have such a strong government and that goes back to the question of sovereignty that you were identified on and the 2nd is the basic your entire economy on financial financialization on the Financial Services and ignoring manufacturing and resources and relying on just in time supply chains from around the world exposes you to enormous risks and these are points that have been made many times yes you havent seen. The truck been ministration is a pin blame for this but it was a trumpet that moved all of these factories in charges in china ok i mean its you know this is the rich you know its easy to blame trump and its easy to blame these political elites were in there culpable but not trump he wasnt around at the time but you know china quite gladly started building this equipment because its high value high margin equipment that you can. Export to the world i mean there are a winner here and i think your point is actually taken here is that this is a strategy to slow that down and to start. Truncating their growth which of course is kind of stupid because weve gotten down the path of globalization so much that it china sneezes and i hate using the. Equivalence the the rest of the worlds gets a cold ok so its too late to do that ok yeah exactly once. This thing was true concerning the United States when the United States never has. The rest or the world. Quite cold. It goes to chinese because they are producing everything practically but you know what if it has. Another information which you have for the awards widely circulated in American Media that google was on microsoft and others. Proposed their employees home to w