Crisis to get resolved and then well deal with the economic damage at the end you are advocating a one to 3 month economic shutdown what it what does that entail. Well i look at my peers who i dont know read so wonderfully much ident heres what i do know is that this is a Public Health crisis and we need to result the Public Health crisis 1st before we deal with any kind of. Assessing what the economic recovery should look like so right now what i would do is ensure that workers get money in their bank account so that they can bike rosaries that they can pay that rat Small Businesses to get even a forbearance on their low lease payments and then i think in general throughout the society we look at all the different ways that we can upload off some of that debt that people have to pay every month again whether its Student Loan Debt auto debt card debt just basically its sort of it we can kind of keep some sense of financial ability until this Public Health crisis eases up and when that happens we can then consider broader bailouts to other Larger Companies. Someone who is shown out in this mostly our guesses Governor Cuomo of new york would you agree with that and conversion we how effective has the president. Why i think the real superstars larry in this Public Health crisis have been the governors im thinking not only Governor Cuomo governor inslee in Washington State governor newsome and california even Governor Pritzker in illinois and really fully you know the the front line of response is stable officials who have to make it difficult decisions about Business School who have to deploy their Public Health officials. Help monitor this situation and shown remarkably stable competent leadership it does stand in stark contrast to the schizophrenia attitude that this president has shown you know for 2 months he basically this is this seriousness a crisis a better deal than 80 and if the jet that people stay in their homes now ill be wavering in that suggesting that maybe the academics its too severe im continuously kind of fall back on his old tactic where its blaming his own and. Attacking the media spreading false information about a potential cure when the president would be well served to do is really just to take a step back and trust the career experts in his administrations to make this decision hes talking to a lot of the cruise industry and how important that is and important it is to save it but theres having other there from flags theyre not roads that in america. Youre absolutely right larry look at before we point large corporate bailouts whether its the cruise industry or the Airline Industry and hotel i want to think 1st about American Workers i want to think about those people who are trying to figure out how theyre going to make their rent payment at the end of this month im thinking about Small Business is the mom and pop deli in the laundromat and the and and the diner those are people we should be helping it right and once we get past this crisis we can then assess what are the Larger Companies that we should be helping out. The cruise industry certainly employs a lot of people as you point out these are not theyre not. Flat or i headquarter in the United States but they do employ a fair amount of people and they should certainly be considered for relief but so should so many other industries in this country but again lets focus on the workers purse and Small Business. How do you think the Business Community is reacting how they do and why i think theyre struggling i think theyre struggling because youre getting mixed messages from the president in the absence of federal guidance consistent federal guidance what you see is a kind of a patchwork of 50 states making decisions and in many cases a lot of mayors making decisions as well and thats a very complicated environment for businesses to react to presumably like in the Airline Industry you see huge drops off drop offs from their businesses right now and you do wonder at some point i how much longer some of these companies could say going in so this is a very tough environment and sent in many ways much more challenging than the 20082009 financial crisis overall hows the president doing. Well i certainly wouldnt give him a 10 out of town its a great insult you know he certainly has been engaged but i do think the challenge is hes be pressed the conferences that hes getting are just not helping at all. At least making claims that arent true that require other people and is the ministration to then clarify and i think he answer of use it more as a political exercise of how he can make himself seem as good as possible attempts to attack his opponents you know they said hes a waste of months of our response efforts by dismissing the seriousness of this crisis and unfortunately far too many people of his followers still continue to minimize the seriousness of this because theyre remembering the president s comments from earlier earlier on where you think of extending the tax deadline to. July 15th from april 15th. York think that makes a lot of sense and i think there are federal agencies that have done a lot of other steps that are noteworthy whether it is putting a hold on a foreclosure whether its pushing back student loan payment but already saying your help because what you want to do is to create some measure of Financial Stability were at right now so that they just get through every day so that is good food on the table you dont want to put any additional stresses or certainly any Additional Debt payments onto them until we start to get is it back up and running it yet do you think the Business Community is in general or acting well what i think theyre trying to is that as i said i think this is a challenging environment for a that and i think you know they are making the decision they can make but i do think that there. Are riffraff program. A lot more people suffering right now so i think these are challenge anybody. Lame anyone at this point for their conduct. Do you think joe biden should be seen more should he be active in a way as hes expected to be the democratic you know be i have be the nominee for president should he be more vocal and open now. Where he is starting to be again this week during a. Briefing talking about the president s response that run a virus and what he has a potential president link to it is one of the challenges right now because in an environment where you bought more parts of the country under lock on. To a big Campaign Event he certainly any that your press conference a like press office you cant even shake and the supporters you cant do race are a real come a point at which he can do that again but at this point the best thing he could do with what hes trying to do which is it continue to push out his plan for what he would you what do you think of the Daily Press Briefings of the president does holding you know larry i dont think theyre helpful d at all let me say this i think its helpful when we hear from the Vice President in the corporation efforts of the federal government i think it certainly helpful with your for medical experts like dr fouts you but i dont think its all cool when the president gets up there and he basically a recent version of his Campaign Rallies where he feels the need to raise our performance to attack his enemies and to dispel false information i really wish these briefings were left more than a handful of the experts instead of the president. Or slow as always thank you so much thank you larry. And well be right back with more politicking after this. Matter of russian headlights. Im a journalist its all i know being a truth teller people say i make among come from good news is like a jackhammer good drill down and think more. Better of russian headlights. Something seemed wrong wrong just dont. Get to shape out. And in again because the trail. Find themselves worlds apart. Just to look for common ground. Join me every thursday on the alex salmond chill and ill be speaking to guests of the world of Politics School business im showbusiness ill see you then. As the democrats gear up to officially start their 2020 president ial primary it is fitting to assess Donald Trumps performance in office a report card of sorts where is he kept his promises and where has he come up short will any of this really matter and. Welcome back to politicking are donald trump daily appearances at White House Press briefings on his administrations response to this pandemic helping or hurting lets talk with someone whos attended some of those briefings hes bill press Progressive Political commentator host of the podcast the bill press pod and hes in our Nations Capital bill press i know youre not his biggest fan. So s. A. B. C. News poll showed that 55 percent of those surveyed approve of how the president s handling this crisis are you surprised at that. Not really surprised larry i think 1st of all thats a factor of the the fact that donald trump is on National Television every day giving a briefing from the Briefing Room with the Surgeon General and the Vice President and the head a female and whoever else he brings together that day. And i think that has an overall impression on people that this is a guy in charge its a serious crisis and this is a guy in charge. I do believe however that as things go on. And things are definitely going to get worse people may start to question is all of us just talk or is the guy really in charge and is he really getting things done. Do you consider him a wartime president. By definition were at war against this virus yes and. And he is a wartime president but heres what i find lacking and im not trying to make this political all are but you and i know over the years at a time of any serious crisis we all the American People look to the president for leadership you are you and i remember Ronald Reagan when the challenger for the challenger disaster bill clinton Oklahoma City george which differs september 11th barack obama mother emanuel down charlotte and sandy hook up in connecticut and so people are now actually looking to the white house right now for dollar trump for leadership and i thought i fear that what they see for the most part is the confusion and and then in adequate response i mean we had last 2 months. When done on total denial about how serious this crisis what we knew about in early january it wasnt until last week that he. Announced an Emergency Declaration and said were going to take this seriously have news trail right behind the acting like it was a hoax all right according to yell iowa paseo the mayor of new york the president was im sorry go ahead what fox news i think has a lot answer for. And smith in the New York Times a couple of days ago laid that out that its not just that some of the talk show hosts like particularly sean hannity and laura ingram were calling this a hoax saying of the dead are responsible for that but the democrats were saying it was more dangerous than any virus and basically just dismissing the whole thing which of course donald trump was doing to that nobody. Called up you know the new Laughlin Murdoch whos the new head of fox news nobody called these people of these hosts up and said hey this is a Public Health problem you know put politics aside and just talk about you better take this seriously i think were all grateful i record carson our old friend from c. N. N. Tucker carlson was the one who was saying this is serious guys you got to stop just making fun of it and he went down to mara lago so he could talk to tropic got trampled trump aside and took ottoman to changing his tune in on this i mean Tucker Carlson may have ended up saving a lot of lives. Because trump listen to him thank god. The mayor of new york bill de blasio said he had the president of lift a finger to help his hometown and he said of the president doesnt act pay more die who couldve lived otherwise what do you make of the boss his criticism. Well i think thats a little too strong frankly are you know that the the president has been talking with the governors he has particularly been talking with with andrew cuomo and new york is one of the hot spots you know its california its new york its illinois thats where most of the cases have been sorry Washington State and new york and california for most of the cases that then now new york leads in a number of cases that have been tested and people found positive but the president has sent this medical ship up there he has sent the 1st c. D. C. Medicines to new york to be tested. So i dont think hes ignored new york but overall i think we have seen in this country the leadership has been coming from the governors and the mayors. I mentioned any new york you have a new some from our california our own governor of california jay inslee up in white 2 state Gretchen Whitmer out in michigan these are the governors to been really taking the most serious and the most forward steps gina rimando from rhode island is where you could go you could go down the list and i was in the Briefing Room the other day larry when somebody asked the president. If he were going to buy some masks and buy some testing kits have the federal government do that and send them to the states and the president said no thats up to the governor as he said and im no shipping clerk but simply hes let them take the lead and i think theyve done a pretty good job were doing a pretty good job. Bill i saw you at the white house with the press crew ask a question over the weekend was your impression and fabien been there whats your impression as to how the president is handling this and what that Daily Briefing is like. Well larry its rather bizarre i have to tell you 1st of all are you understand there has not been a White House Briefing by the press secretary since march leben 29th in over a year and now suddenly the briefings have come back and the Vice President is in charge of the task force so the announce the briefings every day this is going to be a briefing led by the Vice President on the latest in the fight against the coronavirus and yet every day its the president. And takes the podium and gives his own introduction and his own should be a will a lot of it just kind of rambling 1st and then he introduces other people and then they ask questions the problem is theres a lot of talk but a lot of it doesnt add up i mean the president keeps bait keeps talking about the fact were working on a vaccine and so keep hope alive but the vaccine the Health Officials tell us wont be ready for at least a year then the president says weve got these new medications that are being used for rheumatism now we think that our work on coronavirus this could be a game changer and then dr felt she steps up to the podium right after the president and says slow down these things are not tested we got to start some tests and itll be maybe itll be months before we know whether they work and then the president says up into these companies and theyre going to turn around and theyre going to start theyre going to make ventilator starting today and then the reporters call the same companies after the News Conference and the Companies Say we dont know anything about this or it will take us months to to recalibrate so theres that i just have to say theres a skepticism among the press corps that what were hearing from the podium every day and ive been to 4 or 5 of these briefings is not necessarily what the point of this where theres a big difference between what we hear in the briefings. From people on the ground in the states and what we hear from the governors do you think that joe biden should be more visible. I definitely think joe biden should be in more visible i think think that that operate for us all i think we need leadership from both sides on this issue number one number 2 i think it is a big contrast between what donald trump failed and what joe biden said he would have done had he been president now he can go out there and whole big rallies but theres no reason it donald trump going to hold this job i think and hold a News Conference if joba donald trump can come out every day in front of the press corps in washington then joe biden whod just up the road in wilmington he could come out maybe not every day but he could certainly come for and say heres whats heres what i would do heres what we need to do heres what i propose i think joe biden is missing an opportunity by staying huddled up in wilmington delaware do you fear the election could be postponed for a while you know theres a lot of talk in washington about the dollar from my postpone the election i think thats all b. S. 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