A well earned skepticism so that leaves us with a very important question when does healthy skepticism turn into paranoid delusion and who ultimately gets to decide what is the important difference between the 2. Since the onset of the covert 19 pandemic there has been a steady diet of healthy skepticism as well as paranoid delusion from legitimate questions regarding the violations of privacy that could arise from the mass implementation of Contact Tracing to the lunacy of questioning whether the virus is actually real and while many of these skepticism are a healthy response to potentially dangerous need jerk reactions by Public Officials or corporate stooges looking to make a buck there disaster capitalism others tragically are not instead they would fall into the world of Snake Oil Salesmen looking to squeeze some fame and profit off the paranoia and fear a crisis can bring and its out of those crossroads where controversy is born and today nothing appears to be more controversial than the words and work of dr judy mco bits and cant have been lively whose new book plague of corruption restoring faith in the promise of science has shot up the bestseller lists of the New York Times and amazon while at the same time inspiring the flames of skepticism and paranoia on both sides of the coded 19 and vaccination debates so today lets take a trip down to those crossroads of controversy and start watching the hawks. If you want to know whats going on on a city street you want to. See. This joyce state. Great city this least systemic deception is so which. So brings up joe. Welcome everybody to watching the hawks tyrone and i dont know and joining us today is the authors of one of the most controversial books released in the time of covert 90 plag of corruption restoring faith in the promise of science and joining us today is jodi dr judy mccall but some come back and widely thank you both so much for coming on today id tell you guys are been at the swirl of controversy a maelstrom i cant imagine what youre going through at this point. There are many. And can you have any idea going into writing this book with that the make of it that the book would end up being published during the height of a Global Pandemic and become a hot selling controversial book. Never imagined that never imagined this coated in 1000 epidemic but. And we finished working on it basically in july you know those actions 1st we released in november so getting released in april during the height of the ep and that was really remarkable we knew our book would be controversial and you know this is our 2nd book together our previous one was published in 2014 it was very popular but no reaction in the Mainstream Press really thrilled at that its got this kind of reaction and were hopeful that we get people to read science and i you know thats the thing is i want to when i was able to have you both on the show and were able to get you on the show you know you guys about a lot of critiques of the book youve got a lot of people said you know i used to you know. They made these claims so i want to ask you about some of those things that people have laid at your feet saying hey this is not true or i have accused you of essential reading up and causing problems in dr mccall whats in the book as well as in the interview for him in every did for the documentary terror documentary plan democrat one of the many viewpoints that a lot of medical experts and publications are taking issue with as your assertion that wearing a mask can get you sick in the film plan demick they are quote you are saying wearing the mask literally activates your own virus or getting sick from your own reactivated coronavirus expressions and if it happens to be sars cope to the new got a big problem now as i said many scientists doctors and Media Outlets have on equivocally stated but there is no evidence to support your claim i want to ask you how do you respond to their criticism. Lack. The confidence now particularly starting with hiv its not just your various coronaviruses that you may have been exposed i way of vaccines over and over year by as as i may be used to grow the back scenes. Down in the flu annual flu vaccines. And you also have 8 percent of your viral is an dodgin is late leaping dormant byron says and when you immune suppress the mask immune suppresses made it suppresses your memory for t. Cell responses their publications on mash it causes a after wearing a while like a lactic acidosis your breathing actually back your c o 2 youre depriving yourself of oxygen and this is immune suppressive act those dormant viruses those 8 percent and your children or your theory i didnt have. In storms that are attributed to this sars coronavirus 2. Point on. The mask and the immune suppression the lack of the item and i respond that there is decades of science supporting what i said and many investigators around the world since that time effort i did mean published paper after published papers saying youre exactly right this. Thing that would like i mean is that something that could occur you know when someone just puts on a mask to go to the Grocery Store and back or is this something that could occur over a long term i mean is there like a pie reframe your sense of thats pretty incredible if you wear this thing youre going to get sick or you know is that something that people are going to experience just going back and forth to their store when they do put on the mask or is this something that like over time youre going to see Something Like that. Not. Over. You know in Healthy People its not a short term. Very people who are among the grim. In. Fact out. In the worst or 4th in. 2 are being aired yet who. Still want. To wear a mask. Or think. That wearing the longest word in the board. Like like for our. Children born in america have as i have. I know. Youre not wearing our. One thank you not. All men yours is. The man who is gotchas. Can your book and dr mike of its claims have been used by many in the q anon movement and many supporters of President Trump and other politicians to excuse Major Political failures and actions that allow kobe 19 to claim so many lives should people be using you and doc to make of its work to excuse the failures of politicians. You know i really dont know how to answer that we try and do is follow where the evidence goes and you know as far as it being that coming from where the motive i just point out the time that robert f. Kennedy jr is wrote the foreword to our books though you know i kind of say you know theres nobody more democratic than robert f. Kennedy jr judy is can tell that its holly area its lean on political im tend to be more conservative but this is a certain black and everybody on board approach to no i dont think that its a left or right but i think its just trying to get to the truth. And imagine and do about it cause us that theyre going to like you see a lot of people kind of jumping on saying like oh i want to take what this person is saying and kind of politicize it in the moment is to excuse x. Y. And z. You know thats why you know you see that happen a lot across the board in here you know its interesting when more fascinating parts of the book article which you accuse the age or just the d. O. J. On the f. B. I. Of destroying your career and your reputation how exactly did these agencies tarnish you and your work and do you have the evidence to back up this because. Now we have the or 401. 00 can say that theyre going. To sign and. I know where. I was you know falsely arrested for refusing to cover up the raw data of proof of our search where you know our work of the past decade showing how heavily contaminated the blood supply was with mouse related and contagious cancer causing viruses monkey cancer causing virus. It dont most papers were published he says the publications of the inflammatory those cytokines storms we see him go with those of a career of more than 50 publications Peer Reviewed exactly the mechanisms of how these things cause diseases so that the journalists and for when i refused to deny or cover up was statistics these data the journal science literally went on a 2 or 3 year which on to 1st of all i was falsely arrested in november of nov 18th of 2019 where on the next day the science while im held in jail with no bail with no possibility of bail without a lawyer without any due process for 5 days here is the journal science publishing on november 19th 2011 that in fact there were no warrants i was arrested on felony charges of being a fugitive from justice and nobody could identify a local agency either in ventura where i live or any warrants existed in reno nevada where supposedly my crimes occurred and they the journal reported correctly that the warrants must have been submitted by some federal agency controlling this nobody ever had a warrant yet it and i ate from that time on an international answer institute i was held on those it said if i stepped on and i are in a laboratory to perform the studies replicating our work that i would be arrested so i am reported to have performed those studies to have not been able to replicate my work and in fact its a character assassination and those agencies the warrants were there 2065 years later they were still there it says im not felony fugitive from justice and i shouldnt same warrants i should j. Say those paper false charges on which my career and my life was weve destroyed and i think theres more poor or practical one. Yeah and if i can just if i can chime in their own bed so i have a background as an attorney and so you know ive been on judys case for 10 years and and the d thing that has been amazing i was at her turning but i spoke with her attorneys ive looked at all the evidence and her arrest in 2011 as without any cause you know her booking form and ventura had no charges the warrant was just like you said it was she was a few different justice but you have to have an underlying crime like even a parking ticket nothing like that it wasnt signed by the judge it was stamped by the University Rather arena which where which where some very powerful people had previously employed uni so and you know what we also have to say is that you spent over half a 1000000. 00 on legal fees trying to get it and court her claim was how under seal for 3 years by the by the state of nevada she has met with the f. B. I. On multiple occasions given them all the evidence has asked them to prosecute so this is not somebody who is i mean she is such a Straight Arrow ive known her for 10 years and you know she was the most honest person ive ever come across and i sometimes i think that i think the thank you and i thing i think that i got to say thank you so much for coming on today i think anybody you know people should go out check out the book make up their own come to their own conclusions but you always have to read the book 1st before you jump to conclusions the same with anything that you hear in the media supply do very much again theres a plague of corruption restoring faith in the promise of science jutted dr judy mike of its and can happen live we thank you so much for coming on today. Thanks for having us and. Art as we go to break remember you can also start watching the hawks on the man through the brand new portable t. V. 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The number of coded 1000 cases worldwide is passing the 5000000 mark here in the United States cases are now topping 1500000 yet america continues to reopen with pressure from President Trump and his gun toting patriots meanwhile we have yet to find tracing in treatment measures and are racing against the clock parties trying to shabbat has the latest on the fight to find a cure. Today more than 23000 new coronavirus cases documented in the u. S. The World Health Organization reporting the biggest one day increase of coronavirus cases yet new data from Columbia University suggesting that tens of thousands of deaths could have been prevented if the United States had implemented social distancing measures in early march thats about 2 weeks earlier than it actually did around 36000 people or people would have died in the epicenter of the outbreak new york city mayor bill de blasio didnt close schools until march 15th then it wasnt until march 16th that President Trump urged americans to avoid travel limit large groups and stay home from School Governor cuomo not issuing stay at home orders until march 22nd so were going to put out an executive order today new york state on pause policies that assure uniform safety for every. Want the virus quickly sweeping through new york city helping fuel outbreaks in louisiana texas arizona and the west coast this as private Companies Race to find a vaccine. But now a sign of good news to harvard studies in monkeys reveal that adding antibodies to the corona virus either from past infections or from prototype vaccines do offer protections from re infection in one study 9 monkeys that were infected with corona virus did not get the disease again even after they recovered and in the other study 25 monkeys were given 6 prototype vaccines while 10 received a fake vaccine all 10 of the monkeys had high degrees of the infection in their noses and lungs 25 either had low levels or no detectable levels at all this as the virus continues to grip hard hit new york city as unemployment numbers soar the demand for food has never been greater we had no money with no food. Thing at building something makeshift food pantries now set up throughout the city providing thousands of meals a day for those in need each week are steadily the numbers of bigger and bigger and bigger. Is is very prevalent. Not only do you see Homeless People but you see people that are food insecure the number of people being unemployed. Is huge and our numbers have grown by 100 percent the pantries serving nearly 15000 meals just last week and since the shutdown the city has provided more than 32000000 meals to residents we have destroyed in the city of new york has distributed 32000000 meals to new yorkers who need food. And this effort is growing every day by next week over a 1000000 meals will be delivered per day delivered to york Officials Say the state department of labor has now paid out more than 9000000000 dollars to 2000000 people who have filed for unemployment claims since the pandemic began meantime a new report. That it will take the city at least 4 years to reach creepy endemic unemployment numbers but the city will not start to rebound from the crisis at least for another 2 years reporting in new york trinity each others are. Back to back segments 1st were talking about plague of corruption with the 2 authors and a new look at the latest of new york is going on with the potential for vaccinations what were your take on the authors we talked to earlier today on that whole controversy surrounding the book there is a worthwhile controversy surrounding the book not only because of the timing of its release but because right now its trying to point out in her piece there is a push to actually find a vaccine there are scientists who across the globe who are trying to make this happen and people who are weary and afraid of what one would look like should we try to get one too fast we know most vaccines take years to develop theyre now in a trap within 6 months but its very true you know its that the thing with controversies like this is like i never have a problem with the idea of raising questions we should always raise questions whenever were talking about you know whether its you know mass vaccinations or mass surveillance or like all of these things that weve dealt with with government and so i dont believe in censorship i dont believe that you should immediately be led and reject anything that ever and all i dont think that there are 2 people they didnt least come across to me in that interview that there are you know they have elicited i do you know that theyre not doing this for illicit means other big legitimately believe in what theyre saying and what they wrote the book but at the same time i also understand the pushback against it you know its kind of i was glad that i got to say you know hey you know i dont mean just wearing a mask going to the store and coming home for a normal healthy person is going to make them drop dead of a virus im glad that i got to clarify that absolutely and a lot of the a lot of the criticism i think is very legitimate and on the on the face of it shes someone who appears to be an anti backs or shes someone who has made those statements over the course of the past 1213 years thats not new and something that people just found out in plan to make or in her book but what i find interesting is that she d