A world 1st but many scientists around the globe express alarm huge corners have been caught. Those are your headlines for more information on the question go to our web site r t v dot com for me ill be back later on tonight but my colleague will be kind of on our time with a look at your next list if you. Follow and welcome to crossfire as you considered on Peter Lavelle the collapse of the russia gate hoax has exposed yet again the unprofessionalism and bias of the liberal media the same media it consistently. Their own claimed values and political preferences and even the truth are conspicuously absent in their news report. You cross up this and more im joined by my guests in my present in los angeles she is host of the game iris in show and in new jersey we have joe concha he is a media reporter and columnist for the hill rules of that that means you can jump in anytime what an hour so appreciate it ok let me go to joe 1st here joe over the last 3 and a half years weve been fed this russia gate hoax and its begun and its very basis it leaks that are giving up given to prefer news outlets from the powers that be well well call it deep we have opinions a new way and those we have a lot of bloopers in retrospect be the the leaks that no amount to anything or dead ends or basically wrong and then you know the flip side is over the last lets say 2 weeks and i have were getting real facts i even to the point of hand written notes something attached to a name a face a big here we have congressional records that have been released or madam ships. Investigation with all of his witnesses and the names are attached to the words under oath and never mind it doesnt make any difference its keep moving on i mean i find it really quite astounding that you know we were told that there was a grand conspiracy but now there is a grand conspiracy of silence. Well youre exactly right about innuendo right as far as russia reporting a lot of it was based on unnamed sources id love to meet this guy named on name circumscribes because you get a lot. Things wrong right as i like it gets it wrong and reporters make mistakes i heard this analogy once that the White House Press corps and political media in the us in general its like when you go to the beach and you throw food up the seagulls it doesnt matter if the bread is molded or bad or rocks theyre going to eat it gobble it up and not verify what theyre being fed so you know i spoke to one Emmy Award Winning journalist thats been in the business for a while and she said what reporters dont realize is that theyre contes theyre pawns for political operatives trying to push a narrative out there that they know is false but they know this reporters will eat up anyway because there is no accountability when you get it wrong as were staying right because the news cycle goes on so fast we forget about it and get the clicks and the ratings anyway so it doesnt matter thats your point around general fled there are documents here its interesting how can we get this guy to lie so we can prosecute him i would think that reporters would be 2 things right now pissed off and curious and when youre those 2 things thats when youre doing your reporting but instead we dont see it at all we saw them put adam schiff on the air for 3 years adam schiff is in michael evan oddie of lawmakers ok near a member of an avi you know he was on cable news hundreds of people or lawyer less knowing the words yes yes i heard somebody call him that once on cable news hundreds of times even touted as a president ial candidate and you know it yes president right now of his cellblock at rikers but still we put this guy in there all the time just like we did chef and the wall street Journal Editorial Board them credit because they said dont put this guy on air again you know they sent it to me he is not to be believed youre going to see a lot more adam shift and anybody who reports on Michael Flynn like Catherine Herridge of c. B. S. News oh now its just right wing reporting and conspiracy theories and this is why i trust the media is where it is right now in American Society somewhere around where we view light and thats not a good. It is very interesting and weve seen the f. B. I. Knew before to use the. The dossier of this new dossier they knew it was make or break not using a big willingly use this document they knew it wasnt. Accurate but they still use it for a finds of warrants i mean its the same thing with journalists youre saying to me we have you have reporters knowingly know that this is a farce its a hoax but they go along with it anyway because it serves a political purpose 1st and foremost so great and an ideological one on top of that ok i mean i will always made it clear on programs i dont really care one way or another about it in the white house ok they come and go ok with this type of behavior if that isnt put in check now will become a norm in waiting thats certainly not what you want down so kim and i mean it again you know theres theres no self introspection no matter what the democrats the introspect after the 2016 election theyre doing it again theyve been hell theyve been shown to be. Showing that they were pursuing a hoax its been shown to be a hoax and now theyre saying theyre going to be good us and say were the ones that are conspiring to look for a way to protect attorney general barr i dont think any of us are doing that at all go ahead. Now i mean you know what it really comes down terry is that the media is really just focused on getting clicks you know im not really 100 percent and they im not 100 percent certain that media is actually part of that in any way i mean they are part of any and that you know that when youre watching fox youre going to get a certain viewpoint if youre watching c. N. N. Youre going to get another i dont know if fundamentally theyre at their core partisan i think what they are is theyre Media Entertainment theyre trying to get clicks they understand that they need ad revenue they need to they they need eyeballs and they know that emotion sells and so what they do is they fear monger they find a conspiracy that they can get anything salacious that they can just latch on to share scandal. Or controversy conflict in some way and they use that in order to make gobs and gobs of money theyre using our emotions and then not the attention to reality you have a kid but its the peoples lives and destroyed in the process and i mean i and i think thats something we have to take me out on me whats going on in hollywood who sleeping with whom and you know whos getting divorced that i mean i guess thats all kind of little lady and all that you know in the in that is the sense that would be agency but theres a lot of people whod been just chewed up and spit out in some people are going to prison and you know and thats why joe i can go back to you i think that thats the difference between clit taking that which is what i know exactly what it is but at a certain point the need to value institutions and very ideas and like let me you cant trivialize there are certain things you shouldnt trivialize because its dangerous go ahead. Lets look at micro example exactly were talking about i like a clip in 10 minutes i assume a clinic ok im stealing that as far as just barbara for instance and we can present i remember 20162015 when President Trump then candidate trump announced his candidacy hes on their show on a regular basis phone interviews to the point where publications like Rolling Stone are calling them out for these interviews are way too soft theyre way too friendly youre going to put this guy in the white house if you keep propping him up like that and sure enough the president captures then candidate trump captures the primary nomination and the Party Nomination and then suddenly joe meek a term on trump now that they suddenly change their minds how they got out of them what they wanted and then they realize are going to be ostracized hamptons the Upper West Side of manhattan if they continue to look like theyre supporting him right and now theyre the most staunch critic so trump you just laugh at it as you know its not serious because well why didnt they speak out against him 20152016 then i see the never trumpeters that are on the air mccall last summer at all i picked them joe all. 5 ok. Well there may be more actually right you see rick wilson you see Nicolle Wallace you see on of are all these republican strategist were i cant name one campaign theyve actually ever won in the past 15 years but theyre put out as socalled republicans and then what their job is to speak out against trying to get the pure of the idea that even people in its own party are against him until you look at gallup polling and hes the highest of any president in terms of Party Loyalty and history so thats the thing this is all a game i dont think really that the ana navarro the world either she was a never republican or b. Now she really doesnt hate trump or Nicolle Wallace hate trump much as they do it just gets them to our next contract it gets them attention and love on social media so when people ask me is there bias i agree with him i think you have to probably is some bias there is some activism but in the end the end this is all bad acting like cinemax and 3 oclock in the morning bad acting people are just doing it to get people what they want to hear instead of. Really with both of you then given him what is the purpose of journalism i mean maybe we should just say journalism doesnt exist anymore and this is all intertainment i mean it is its a serious question you know be because again like i said to me when you have left unchecked youre going to have the f. B. I. Investigating the next president ial candidate ok i mean this is that there is consequences but this behavior other than to try to garner clicks and celebrity. Others absolutely really journalism is dead unfortunately there is and i mean you have to think about logistically how would you even support journalism right now with with the media the way that theyre supported its their advertisement dollars so theyre looking for emotion theyre looking for clicks they need salacious headlines so then your other option would be what government funding well is the government going to Fund Journalism thats going to be criticized criticizing the government so were a little wary when journalists come yet look at p. B. S. That is not you know logically driven broadcast. And he goes yes i agree yes so a you know where could you find a real journalist who would find that real journalism journalism is expensive those of us who are in independent media it is extremely difficult for us to to manage i mean just to put on a show like i do on my own and and then you know i dont have journalists on the ground that are going out investigating thats a lot of money where would i get that money so the real problem with journalism and there are so many stories and so much information out there you know to try to pursue something where youre going to have a constant refreshed news cycle every single day thats a lot of people you have to support that that that that you know enter enterprise somehow so thats the big question is how do you support authentic journal as needing the amount of money that its going to take without them turning into this the same what were saying with every single socalled institution of journalism out there from Washington Post to New York Times to stand there and say i am as n. B. C. Fox now all of them how do we do it thats the big question well you know so joe were just stuck with tribalism and its not tribalism that some people confront and support i mean if you look over at the intercepts ok they have they have a let me well they can you know give them money to do investigative reporting and its a real mix bag. But you know but also you know im going to really very tragic because were going with the model that kim is describing which i think shes right then there is really no coming together we have to live with our conditions and unfortunately its only getting worse. I agree with ken and i understand her context which is political media and she laid out the networks that were talking about right cable news or New York Times Washington Post right places you could still get decent journalism now maybe not that it wont go heavy on the National Stories but i still think my local noons is still good you know id still good because i dont see any of them injecting their dear diary opinions on the record. This fire happened here this person unfortunately got killed here this team won and heres your Weather Forecast so least i know i can get it there so that at least is comforting on some level and im sorry if you hear my my 4 year old yelling she had made a comment in a shot with and you know 18 seconds i think i saw your dog running behind my dogs people youd be willing to its quite possible you should know i did you know it really is it really is the model that were having to deal with but it is politicized and im really worried about that because we have to account some kind of trust in some some things that are that we all can agree upon if we cant do that were in trouble ok were going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion on the media landscape. The financials the language today was all about Money Laundering 1st to visit this campus into 3 different. Oh good this is a good start well we have our 3 banks all set up here maybe something in your something in america something over the Cayman Islands or do we do all these banks are complicit in the kleptocracy we just have to look for all its a murder to do some serious muhlenberg ok lets see how we did well weve got a nice luxury watch for max and for stacey old beautiful jewelry and how about. A bill from that you know what Money Laundering the. Watch guys are. World is driven by. The day or. Week to ask. Welcome back to cross up where all things are considered im peter love to remind you were discussing the media landscape. Can let me go to you and i notice that we have chris hayes from m. S. N. B. C. Give a major interview it was better to be fair and then i thought i did really well i dont know anyone lets remember that chris hayes as opposed to be the smart one over m. S. N. B. C. You supposed to be the intellectual over there and number one during all of this hope you never had a confrontational guest on his program not once. Not once i dont think that mr b. C in general ebert. Ox news doesnt all the time but i give them credit for particularly on Tucker Carlson is better but most of his program is about 5050 which i think he stands unique in the media. When it going going back to chris hayes if you if you just still use the interview and what happened as embassy and the scene he said the russians made him do it now. Its heres some context one of my favorite films is dr strange well and remember Brigadier General jack ripper remember that crazy general that you know that launches leiby the b. 52 and he was saying that you know the russians have him over in traded in poison or bodily fluids and i couldnt believe that someone of prison hayess stature it at amisom be seen could save them and get away with it i mean there is no agency nobody has any agency in thats exactly with the peddlers of this hoax did they you know its not our fault that were reacting to what someone is doing it was just exactly what is being done to them again that is such a total disservice to journalism go ahead well i didnt know chris hayes was the intellectual want to Read Everything they so carefully. I thought that was jose Rachel Maddow our somebody. You know and i didnt catch his interview but this whole this whole narrative that has just continued on for what now 70 years i think is where were at with the whole u. S. Russia. Conflict and of course there were some points where it was very legitimate. And you know but but since then its just become this its become insane i mean its it really is truly insane and theres never an apology theres never a correction if there is a correction its buried somewhere very small where no ones paying attention to it because everyone latched onto the salacious headline and russia hacked vermonts electricity grid or russia hacked into cspan or you know theres all of these different hoke says that a bit that they have claimed oh you know russia did it russia made me do it russia put trump and power russia you know russia russia russia all the time. You know and theres never any any chance to look at oneself and say maybe we did something wrong maybe were the ones that are upsetting the voters maybe. Maybe we no longer represent the American People and instead theyre trying to paint this dichotomy well its i there you go you know youre with us because were americans or if youre not with us then youre with russia which is not about me i cant be going up there is so who is going to fight the well said you know cho one of the interesting things that you know i have noticed here is that in this is my theory about the hoax of russia gate hoax is if it was one way for the democrats not to have any introspection after 2016 and youre absolutely right if you want to blame someone for trumps election blame the media i mean all they did was demonize him and anyone that would vote for him well you know voters dont like to be demonized theyre doing it again in this election cycle i mean they focus all their anger on the wrong issue ok because i can i was i grew up in a red state i dont like health they know the National Media the bi coastal media talks about Middle America can it really. Condescending and rude and arrogant very very arrogant and theyre doing it all over again number 2 it is to keep the left together because one of the interesting thing about this is if you had civil libertarians cave on this one its very interesting weve been completely changed on this and its i think its really remarkable for the end of this primary but the democrats at it again Anonymous Sources of the kremlin are supporting bernie ok again theyre using this to carouse people and what it can of course bertie you know has no backbone at all he didnt fight back you would have issued a so this is you get into this again joe was i know he console form and so its a very interesting way to keep the left under control particularly in the insurgents of the progressive which is they are under control now because you have nowhere else to go which is their usual man. Its very it it is nothing as ive said many times in this program theres not much russia or russians in russia ok its really a trying to control the political and media landscape in the us. I think about the premise of the whole russia hack the 2016 election thing for a moment ok because theyve bought minimal ads on facebook a fraction of what the clinton and Trump Campaign spent on bashing each other that somehow it changed the election where lets say im supporting Hillary Clinton and im on facebook and im looking at you know some my friends kids get yours and then this adds up and i say you know a lot going that makes a good point i like hillary but i think im going to support from now one person does that. And not only does that i get a robo call being like you know youre making a good point here why dawkin back to me its so that part is ridiculous and i think a lot of journalists think that the viewers are stupid and maybe they are brainwashed to a certain extent because again they want to hear what they want to hear and instead of what they should be hearing right now joy read over the weekend shes on m s n b c you know one of the electoral ones that said that you know we should come to the point now that we have to accept the President Trump may not embrace the results of the 2020 alexion you know look at the big think that this is from 2016 because thats what i said about trump and no and who is the day who is the candidate who did not accept the results Hillary Clinton has been a public therapy door for the last 3 years talking about how she should have won the election and instead of saying you know i probably should have campaign in wisconsin i guess my final note is dr strangelove you brought up jack tripper was in that i thought he was and. Where it per not tripper ok because jack tripper was in the a. B. C. Comedy Threes Company and then eventually the spot on jacks mistral thats a tangent dont mean to go off on that one final serious point to those in Middle America you grew up in a war red state the reason why the 2016 election everybody says oh my god we didnt see this coming how can the. Possibly great as our men are staying in their ivory towers known as t. V. Studios in washington and new york and washington donald trump got corporate some of the vote. He got 10 percent of the vote and thats where all political media is concentrated so of course were going to hike mentality and you may mess whats happening in wisconsin pennsylvania michigan ohio where the election was won and its probably going to happen here again because no one learns to kens point theres no accountability theres no introspection and i dont think its not because they dont want to do it now actually they dont want to do it. I mean you know given that the the the introspection that the d. N. C. And the democrats had from 2016 theres one very important lesson to be drawn from that if you run for president have those macedonians on your side because it seemed like they tipped it all ok. Jim you know one of the bombshell over the last few days and im using it religion it wait now like how that word phrase was abused for 3 and a half years is there we had testimony from Ships Committee then the the c. E. O. Of crowd strike then you know made it the russians for a behind it had on their servers well in testimony under oath facing the charge of perjury said no we dont have any evidence of it at all if that was not reported widely whatsoever that is one of the triggers for what weve gone through the last rina half years and i remember during the last 3 and a half years talking to people that were experts in the field and they said yeah thats probably will and it probably was a leak probably not to happen you know we need to look at the server and now the whole basis or one of the foundations of this oh is that it can completely dispel and dismiss and theres no reaction to it i mean the thing was on it obviously now is on plan because its a very personal story but you know one of the whole foundations of it has been blown away and there is no introspection this is why theyre going to continue. To lose ok and i think thats objective because if you cant understand your own actions and behavior how can you navigate your way through to the next president ial cycle i dont think that they have the capacity to do it. Well you know and what the real losers are everybody in america its not just the democrats that are losing on this its when the media and even officials and government make it sound like our democracy and our nation is so weak and were so still bad American People are so dumb that we could just allow russia russia russia that would be an advertisement on facebook or you know all of these were writing things that are saying oh you know russia dead it russia debt its just making america look very very weak it makes us look like we just you know were just built on a house of cards that are just collapsing underneath underneath us just because somebody put a advertisement on social media or made a bot that started spreading you know that started amping up twitter or trans these things everybody in america lives and its not just the democrats that are losing but its all about us its just making us look like fools. And thats exactly true and again from my bar away per ive often thought about how could the strongest most powerful country in the history of the world be so very vulnerable to some teenagers in St Petersburg 300 kilometers away from me here and those those kids broke from the. Group when they were indicted by mohler and when the case went to court the mother team walked away because these kids said well you have a judicial system we understand we want discovery what do you how bond us and as soon as they were asked that they close the case because they didnt have any discovery i mean then what this is is that its the. Make it what you will of democracy but its the rule of law ok because when those indictments were made i remember rosenstein comes out its a big breaking news story all the networks are covering it and it was all nonsense it was absolutely all nonsense and again it is how many people know the bentleys was dropped no one but when it was when it was with charges more made it was news all over the world joe so i mean then it shouldnt you know for us me again but i guess Im Old School here i believes in some form of accountability are we going to get any good 30 seconds here the bow tie absolutely makes you old school and i say that the most complimentary of ways believe me when i ask you if they are corrupt ok back quote while we were concentrating so much on russia right and then eventually impeachment as it is pertain to ukraine in january and february there were actual president ial debates a. B. C. N. B. C. C. B. S. In february only one question over hundreds of questions on coronavirus and you can hear what the democrats had to say about that so while were focusing on something that wasnt a story we missed the big story which wasnt russia was china it was rouhani and it was the corona virus that now has wreaked havoc on this country in a way we havent seen since the great well ill end this none of them are going to say oops ok unfortunately thats all the time we have i want to thank my guests in los angeles and in new jersey and i want to thank our viewers for watching as the r. C. C. And exxon remember. The proof. No team no crowd. No shots. Action to. Win the race track no threats to. Quench your thirst for action. On september 19th 1977. Now a subsidiary of the like a corporation announced that it was closing down most of its camel plant. Deal work many of them feel that are under 20 to 30 years there and. 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