To discuss this and more im joined by my guest Marcus Papadopoulos in london hes the editor of politics 1st magazine and here in moscow were joined by dmitri bob hes a political analyst and editor in a smi media project all right tell me cross up rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate ok lets go to marcus in london you and i want to tell marcus demon and our audience here i have big news were not to talk about the president ial debates were not to talk about the Supreme Court of the United States were not going about it joe biden is see now actually were going to talk about some real important things going on in the world today on this program i dont want to talk about same issues mania because this is all too familiar marcus it is a political weapon that is the kin to war it is. It is an assault on the salt of these countries here and as i said in my introduction here you know its never explained why it is in the National Interest why civilian populations in these designated countries are. Repeatedly and to know that it doesnt have any people that were real political outcome except for on the ground misery oh hemmer whoa with the welds castrated and indeed distracted by what is known as a clear igniting the American Government has continued its aggression on the International Stay and continued this aggression on a base its a move we have seen in recent days is a washington impose new sanctions on a cuba venezuela and iran hands i believe peter that we really need to see these new sanctions true. Russia be surgeons palla on the International Say yes on the one hand the americans do want to take action against the aforementioned countries they would like to bring down the government so that they would last and turn those countries to how they were trying to do the revolutions in those countries namely vassal states of america and i believe on the other hand the most important reason is that the americans are shreiking back against russia and doing so i guess free of russias most important allies and friends in the world as russia has a Strategic Partnership with iran russia has a strategic arms ship with. Lusher is a work in all establishes just c. G. Are shipping cheered as a soviet union has during the cold war and the americans understand that there are also jets in syria has being defeated the americans know there is no chance of the Syrian Government being over from her so here americans are looking to target russias allies and friends in the well i want to know what syrians they can program us you know you know team in the you know again looking at. 3 countries that we mention here cuba venezuela and iran. Theres always this pretense of some kind well drop sanctions if you do x. Y. And z 103 but if you look at every single example we will talk about syria and 2nd half of the program is basically full submit surrender and then we will drop the sanctions here the it doesnt work that way thats not what diplomacy is all about an obviously it is a pretense to force regime change we all know what happened to libya the north koreans know what happened to libya here so i mean that this is such a blunt. Tool for political change and there and there is no the the the the psni care part of it is never really explained and thats why these these countries in the end their governments of feel threatened because there is no alternative its one way its one way or my way or the highway and that is that is not and thats not the way you can you know reasonably work the International Order go ahead you know youre absolutely right sanctions is basically a continuation of all war by oddly means you know cause it is used to say that war is a continuation of 46 by on the means well its definitely sanctions is not diplomacy and these has been sad of many discussions that bombay chua will be nice they are rushing Global Affairs magazine organized and the west anatomist most of them agree but they cant do anything about it because the west and for important she is ideological. And this is the problem because if the United States Foreign Policy had been pretty thick look we had wonderful articles in the magazine called. American conservatives and borrowing the way basically the spread of cool weed in. In iran threatens the u. S. Nationals in afghanistan in pakistan in many neighboring countries but nevertheless you know mahama german sorry for the foreign minister or what youre on he just recently gave an interview to r. T. What you said because we cannot transfer money we cannot also pay for that big scene for any kind of medicine against compete the same story with venezuela it was proven beyond doubt that the spread of course read in business well for etans us nationals you know because the disease spreads to the United States many other countries however they havent done anything about help in the been your salmon government to fight the disease and they have basically just joined the country by sanctions now they did it on i dont you think its a its fair to say that theyre using covert as a political weapon against these governments i mean in thats unconscionable its an conscionable shes an evil pandemic as a Political Tool here marcus let me go back to you on it i mean do you want to finish or just just to finish up i agree with marcus duff now russia is moving towards partnership with iran and with your band i think its a wise move but please bear in mind that russia joined the un sanctions against iraq and i think it was basically an expression or an willingness to have confrontation we believed in a different world during the ninetys during the early 2000 and that you did to be clear here limited to marcus no i mean russia did join other members the United Nations Security Council on sanctions to to have irans interest negotiations about its Nuclear Ambitions really what it did that. It would have limited then we got an agreement and then the Drug Administration walked away. So i think that you know you could you could comment russian Foreign Policy for pushing a Diplomatic Initiative which i had said repeatedly on this program and not to the markets right now repeatedly a Little Program that i meant the Obama Administration doing exactly that its walking away from it that im critical of go ahead this is absolutely correct to the Russian Federation in the eye to the ninetys and also in his 2000 disagree to the United Nations Security Council measures being imposed on iran and i will say this there were questions along both also Russian Diplomats who privately were not happy with that but in tracy transceiver russia is very different russia to retreat is not pursuing a Strategic Partnership or on russia has a Strategic Partnership with iraq over flash frozen uranium from a minister has said and also remember that hes now prepared to supply states of the art in systems to iran previously the lawsuit would not do because of his radio direction as the russians are now putting aside israel your taxes and they have prioritized a relationship we have iran over israel and i think just returning to sanctions sanctions are one of the most potent weapons in americas following policy also and what i hear with dmitri says about kerry for people who are suffering from what is known as kerry tonight saying that its a shame in the american policy makers have any feelings have any morals about humanity and also in economic terms it makes far more sense for the americans to bring her out crusading venezuela and iran and through that to take control of the economies there so that is why the americans are placed in sanctions and i think ultimately they are targeting cautious friends and allies in the world as a way we can. Last recession is on the International Side its going to be you know tina. Could be the trumpet ministration is kind of created this kind of false by mary in my opinion is that this maximum pressure is a substitute for going to war because trump did say that he would not start any more silly stupid wars ok and you know what today he hasnt started anything however as we have all agreed on this program here sanctions is another means of warfare and you know that the most glaring one right now is that is venezuela how in the world and especially as a threat to american National Interest is a mystery to me ok but that goes to the point that marcus was making there do is that i mean john bolton even said that you know when he was a national Security Council advisor that American Companies are interested in Venezuelas Oil if we see was france. Well i mean in the United States colonial or no corn you know you see you know action america is nothing new and bad as it is it would not be tragic you know but whats going on right now is indeed tragic because well trumpery presents crude american nationalism he didnt start a new wars not because he was peaceful but because ironically it even more war prole you know liberal interventionists were for oil and heres a chance to stock war with iran to start a war with syria you know they were all business fraid to try would get all the benefits of victory and then he would be left in for another 4 years so surprisingly miraculously and he made me what is dick cheney here i mean you know we can go particularly particularly since the end of the cold war its been destructive failure after another year i dont think anyone is worried about winning and people are worried about how bad we dont know until thats what were going to be youre youre youre absolutely correct you know factually you are correct war with iran would be disastrous if its you know its corn sequences would be unpredictable but please remember were out you know put into this you asked for input this you need you are not to walk into pragmatist youre not talking to people who base their polish on facts they base their polish it on i do all it and then i dont see it as you then the rain regime is weak in some popular people are against well basically Something Like that probably existant in the 90 s or in the ages you know but indeed many young people in iran who are against the government but the United States by invading iraq and making iraq what it is now she dont have spirit inside during in society so the United States on it has itself to go. Same for that. And we all know that these sanctions is the only strain of the governments that where these sanctions are directed against its so counter productive and there is no learning curve here when it comes to say all right gentlemen im going to jump in here were going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion on some real estate with our. Always be polite never engage with a negative a good or confrontational. Dont get into any conversation or start answering questions just. Definitely dont want to. Show. Youre more likely to walk free if youre rich and guilty or if youre poor and. Youve got 2 eyes 2 ears and one now. So you should be seen in here and a whole lot more in your sand if you dont take that advice easy going to dig yourself. My name is 2nd see. Mr jackson wanted on seats which i. Put it on there was. No weve got. 2 cars and you cant move. Them. 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You know they just cant let syria go can only they just cant let it go and every time you ask them why are we in there why are we in syria which we know is the illegal under International Law countries like russia have been invited under International Law based on the United Nations charter here but when you asked a Foreign Policy block why were in syria they can never give you the same answer twice can. Oh peter the reason why the americans in your words cant let syria who is because washington has a thought host specific leave a military and he can only accrue holes in the north east of the country and the americans as in days the russians and the iranians and our countries in the world understand that syria is or immense cheer strategic importance and it was i do not believe that there will be any attempt by the americans in new faced syria to. The atrocities of the syrian army backed by the Russian Military and youre a military because of course i doing so you that could bring your house confrontation with russia but i do believe paisa that the americans have no intention whatsoever of relinquish in the best foothold in no free syria because i mean americans being in syria that does true friends firstly it limits syrias own influence and power in the middle east because there is a foreign army in syria and secondly and so a lesser extent it doesnt limit russias position in the middle east why because syria is as it has been since the cold war is russia is always and its not just in the middle east and in fact for us and for the russians because the americans are in syria does somewhat. Limits their own position in the middle east but nonetheless i think what we see is unless the kurds and the americans full house and i dont see any evidence of that happening i think american states it would feast syria all the parts of the movie syria which they control offensively into or into an american protectorates well let. It would be strongly at odds with most of the world things here i mean you know the things that the former policy seem to forget or willfully forget is that it was the it was the Syrian Arab Army with the assistance of the red and russia that destroyed because of it i mean i know trump thinks the credit for whatever it took the Russian Air Force 25. 00 planes and 6 weeks to do it the american stood by for years and watch the caliphate grow ok and actively encourage it one way or another proxies ok but you know in the in the theyre worried about irans influence in syria well by form entering this proxy International War against the government of damascus they brought in the russians they brought in the uranium so you know what and the iranians and the russians have done more to bite the talent that than any western power ever has and no one in washington wants to admit that simple truth go ahead. Well i think you know im sorry in your 1st development on your 1st question i would see that the United States and the e. U. Will not create insisting on changing the regime in syria its a general problem you know you will tell you bill outre liberal ideology when they adopt a soap a narrative they just dont let go of it you know russia gate im sorry for the americans youre going to hear impounded for the next i dont know how many years until the idea what we do in the country changes the same story about poisoning so you know just recently it was revealed and not the opposition member you know over russia who claim to have been poisoned by the russians but even karl moore is up you know he is more skewed against f. B. I. For not believing him that he was poisoned was turned down so he it was officially not boys and why do we hear the same story. Boy zones hes opponents you know and they will not then go and this is the core you know the principle of that Foreign Policy machine and what your step about syria no lets get off that street i will give you the exact numbers you know before the Russian Aviation stop and operating in syria in september 2015 for 11 months the socalled just one extended had to be in supposedly borne out by the United States and their allies and the problem was then the sliming stage just kept sprayed and it kept in lodge in the 3rd is that it controlled the situation or only changed after russia started already and you know there are for the benefit of our viewers here the the the Bombing Campaign by the United States in its own eyes it didnt go after isis just right in the state in the structure of syria that was the intention is to create a failed state so the other side russia syria in its own lies they destroyed the counted and to save the infrastructure of the country diametrically opposed agendas and you may want to save some yeah you know it just proves of on what im what we said in the beginning of the program if you if you dont believe that the United States destroyed the infrastructure of syria look who is keep in syria under sanctions now we have been saying that sanctions is a continuation a would by other means the United States and the e. U. No you know despite the country being destroyed despite it being in red just after that civil war they continue maintaining sanctions against syria its on her go i mean i dont remember any example in history when a country would be destroyed and now the war would be making the destruction you worse by not allowing the supply of oil by not to allow it to supply may. So this is all terrible bob you know a dog in a bog who destroyed what we know their narrative for the western media it was the opening of what you just said peter they said the prophet is not wont be in ice as the trash is born been civilian objects in it in syria here i want to quote peter falk former u. K. Ambassador to syria he has interviewed 2 sputnik like the socalled rebels for it said the dire have been using mosques horse patrols schools asking the mandan control centers are of course when syrian president Bashar Al Assads bomb these command and control centers in so human uteri an outreach you know when asa wants them its an atrocity it went to court u. S. Led coalition. You know the force but those and and and schools its just an accident its just bad luck if they kill civilians and it was make it. Directs him in iowa hes sitting there for you ok ambassador to syria its not some lane and telling us that it is mark is the interesting thing for me here is that in the. Trocaire it either hes an able or unwilling to get the right people around him to have american troops withdraw from syria when he then the people that want to promote this intervention there if indeed they need this want to be the Decision Maker theyre waiting for the pieces on the board to get it was a certain situation where they can impose their will thats the only understood other than obviously not allowing syria to build and thats just out of spite because that hurts they the civilian population but. There is no real coherence other than we dont have a plan so were just going to sit in wait it out and see if we can to determine now you agree with. Or let me 1st of all places to say when i sit in a press gallery in the house of commons and hear this and backbench a pace say who air force. Took the lead rope into showing how qaida and isis in syria i sit back and sire weve just sat there and coincidentally i so much so well they say they know theyre not telling the truth they know her fixedly the Russian Military just showing her how kite and isis and their new british minister british advantage policy is going to credit russia with that because that would go against the official narrative in britain and also in america. Is a threat to the west to western civilization so western democracy but its are americas position in syria yes i have no tell us that there were there are people around from. Would like to see it is taking action more definitive action in syria and i have to say peace now on it or leave iraq paula. Did not have people around him dictating to him what his approach to syria should be i have to sit. Keep on saying its. Real people in town well in america the ones you see on the television yes an american presence has tremendous talent was when it comes to syria who have. A fundamental goal in american politics and American Economic sense in an american military. People hear my opinions for the permanence unseen governments and it doesnt matter who sits in the white house. This is. What i said my introduction. No matter whos in the white house or a policy blog is determined to continue a bed sheets even syria and indeed i am sure your sentiments there are almost out of time here i think theres no good reason to believe that the by ministre sion is going to act any differently it is a matter of make me need even more aggressive in considering the Foreign Policy quote unquote experts that by his surrounding himself with. Joe biden might be the obama that might say yes to war intervention in syria last minute those you deem ago well i think it will be streamed to dangerous see if joe biden comes to power because then. Bomb us Foreign Policy would be continued and please remember before main wars which are now destroying mankind they were all started under obama the war in yemen the war in syria the war in ukraine. And the war in libya you know they will all start under obama so who by the returns but what could have the same story again just a small. You know amendment to what arpa set the people who run tonight the states are not the people that it is right but then also not the people that were elected you know we see now how mr truong you know unpleasant person s. He is is subjected to the same campaign of demonization by this. 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