Have said that none of these kinds of cases could potentially overturn the election but for those of us who lived through the great bush versus gore debacle of the year 2000 with the Supreme Court ultimately took the presidency out of the hands of the voters and handed it over to the partisan waters we remain on edge and always watching the hawks. If you will whats going on in a city you really want to. See is this you always still see a. Great city this least says to me just says so which. So brings up the old. Welcome on the watching the hawks i am tire opened and im in the crowd and joining us to discuss the postelection legal and political fist fight for the presidency is the codirector of the National GrassrootsElection Protection coalition professor and journalist journalist Harvey Wasserman thank you so much for joining us harvey. They could be hero of your mind thank you oh its nice to hear so professor wasserman you and many others have been sounding the alarm on the potential for a legally or politically hijacked election outcome for quite some time after hearing President Donald Trump invoked the Supreme Court once again this week are your fears and concerns becoming a reality. Where we get to see because if you taste. 65 or thats why they rushed for that seat its very good and you know hes got 3 texts but you know he has lost this election by more than 3000000 votes he lost by substantially more than the last and 2016 and thankfully this year the Electoral College votes are lining up differently than they didnt 2016 but you know weve got to get rid of that Electoral College thats one of the reasons we convened our grassroots Election Protection coalition i think hes done i think hes such an outrageous and ridiculous character that the powers that be are not going to keep him in there but the important thing to remember is that he was the popular vote by well over 3000000 votes in any sane actual democracy we wouldnt be talking about undecided election you know actions over us by 3000000 votes thats saying so i mean and you know bush in 2000 allowed to all we won by you know if. He actually lost by 500000 what happened in florida should never have happened and what happened in 2016 should never have happened downtown should never been the white house so weve got to get rid of the Electoral College we got to get with kerry and bring one good act in the so actually very big deal is that almost all the ballots were on paper you know because that one good thing that came from the go of it is that we had a giant spread of hope by mail which is a really big step forward for democracy and made a big difference and also because older. People like myself didnt go into the polls to work we had a major generational shift and they had millions of us thousands of more deals and generational z. Kids came out to work the polls a great education and democracy this will change the nature of our country so. So its about as big step forward because for the last 20 years ive been doing using i were trying to go to machines to steal the vote you know push and pray now at least we have a paper ballots that are just going to help those who are most affluent and those are all really good points i like the Transition Team you know the people who are actually involved at the polls this go around versus you know weve seen over 10 aeration before you touch on 2000 and thats something that weve heard back and forth in media lately what are some of the ways the losing party which in this case now appears to be president dollar trump could still essentially steal this election away from joe biden and the democrats should we be worried about a repeat of gore versus bush in 2000 weve already seen so many legal challenges. Yes absolutely because 1st are they so for this year i mean they disenfranchise one more than a 1000000 excellence who the people of florida voted and said ok you can vote and then the legislature the gerrymandered register if you stepped in in scenario cant vote or if you pay your fees and you cant even find out how much you enjoy d if those people had voted in florida. Trump would not have carried forward 4 was stolen this year again and for gods sakes hopefully when 40 years we can correct that i think gerrymandering has got to go but this year tactically you know the way the constitution is written the state legislatures choose the electrophoresis to the Electoral College to choose the president there is actually no mention in because the touche and of the right of the people to vote directly on the president quite the opposite. In fact 47892860 there was a transition the legislatures chose the president that but then by 860 that they were following the lead of the public but legally the legislatures have the right to choose the electors and if trump had not been such a raving lunatic it could happen again this year but i dont think hes got the support to pull it off you have to have some kind of public support when he loses an election by 33 and a half 1000000 votes and behave the way hes behaved i dont think he can pull it off but legally he can do it you know its interesting because you mentioned a few things that number one like him giving would have been Electoral College or try agree with a what what can we do to better protect our voting and democratic processes from getting it you know legally or illegally hijacked by one or both of our dominant political parties. Well ive read a history book getting i states about that actually had a history i stay straight a published called this people spiral of u. S. History this summer and then i had Bernie Sanders saving the world but that thats not going to happen then so we get the history of the Electoral College its ridiculous you know Alexander Hamilton came up with this he was a minor because basically he did now and the public to choose the president was so far beyond that we need to get rid of the Electoral College we need get need to get rid of gerrymandering we need to have great Choice Voting paper ballots and a reliable Action System we also there was also another big step forward this year not much talked about but the a lot of the n. B. A. National Basketball Association i read yes were used for voting and its a huge step forward now to have people on these lines people could come in their presence or d this food safety thats it theyre very big success this year 20 a basketball arenas a couple of football stadiums you know in kansas city and charlotte. Very very good good stuff but number one get rid of the Electoral College number 2 get rid of gerrymandering these are the things that are really killing our democracy thats how we wound up in states like michigan and wisconsin pennsylvania North Carolina with extreme right wing republican legislatures in states that are evenly divided ohio for god sakes a 5050 democrat republican state the same legislations a super majority republican and as is the congressional delegation and thats what one of the reasons our government is so unresponsive is because these people get these seeds and theyre in the state legislatures and congress and theyre completely safe because theyre not competitive elections where its actually been improved this California California has a very good Redistricting Commission which is non partisan or by multi parties and actually and in 20062008 both were just major and the congressional delegations were put under control of this district the commission and guess who funded it Arnold Schwarzenegger choice nader put 3000000 of his own dollars in for a statewide campaign that was successful and thank you arnold you know for for helping to do this its a model for the rest of it and over the next 4 years if we can win state referenda and maybe even get federal legislation get rid of this gerrymandering thing will again take a big step toward democracy were good good folks like you out there fighting for their son educating the public i truly do believe that we will hopefully see this in the near future and i and its funny they never mention alexander the monarchist in the much popular play i have to thank you or someone had or had he was out though he was also bisexual by way of knowing that they have that actually our right wing abbess thank you so much for coming on to present us with one pleasure having you on the highly. If the great monologues great way to break out. Comedy. And there is there are. The 2. As the democrats republicans continue to fight over ballots votes election observers and who makes the Better Coffee on election day one go to controversy that has been thankfully left to the sidelines of 2020 as postelection fight for the white house has been accusations of foreign election meddling or interference unlike 2016 which saw cries of foreign meddling dom meddling dominating the headlines but hey lets not forget 2020 is not over yet and donald is desperate for excuses at this point here is our to americas alex mahela bridge with an indepth look at the hypocrisy surrounding the out of state spears of foreign election meddling especially given our own sort of history on the matter. From ukraine. To venezuela. For decades the us has been accused of interfering in elections around the globe while insisting that other state out of its voting process puts in someone that is a building standard that they present when they meddle in the internal affairs of other countries where they do not respect the electoral rules of those countries such as what happened in bolivia such as what has happened in venezuela where we are an example in terms of electoral matters u. S. Security Officials Say that there has been no foreign meddling detected in americas current president ial vote a stark contrast to just weeks ago when u. S. Intelligence accused russia any ran of interfering in the election well things are supposedly above board in the us vote the same cant be said for elections in countries where america has been involved bolivia is a prime example of that a nation that just recently democratically elected a new government after the us imposed its will a year ago. What occurred its nothing to be surprised about we also won last year and when democracy didnt serve their purpose they carried out a coup detat the us is accused of helping a right wing interim government take control of bolivia. In october of 2019 at least 35 people died in related incidents from Campaign Financing to violent coups some would say the u. S. Is the biggest election meddler of them all dove levon political scientist who conducted an indepth analysis of election meddling told usa today the u. S. Has intervened in the most elections between 1906 to 2081 elections in total this includes well known cases in guatemala and the rand in the 1950 s. And in chile in nicaragua in the seventys and eightys. More recent campaigns into the 2000 election in serbia where the United States openly funded a movement to defeat president Slobodan Milosevic approach in afghanistan where the u. S. Failed to remove him beat karzai from power as well as everything from simple funding to revolutions in places like ukraine kenya and lebanon the list goes on one of the most publicized examples of u. S. Interference in recent years happened in venezuela the United States recognize the Opposition Leader one wide open as venezuelas interim president ignoring that countrys 2018 Election Results in which president Nicolas Maduro was reelected even though some may be questioning just how democratic americas elections are many outsiders are insisting that the process must be allowed to run its course according to the laws of the United States at the same time they hope that the u. S. Will give other nations the same respect for our t. V. Im alex mileage. Already going to recommend that you can also start watching the hawks and other r. T. Programming on demand for the brand new portable t. V. Which is supportable t. V. Upwards is available on all platforms with the fully downloaded check it out all right coming up weve talked about the massive amounts of money spent on this election with the cohost of by any means necessary a radio spokesman jack a look and so stay tuned for watching the fox you dont want to miss that. Sort of thing wrong. I dont really just dont. I mean the world to see how it is they come out of. An engagement with the trailer. When somebody find themselves worlds apart. Just of the common ground. During the vietnam war u. S. Forces also bombs neighboring laos there was a secret war. And for years the American People did not know. How much it is a. Country per capita. Millions of unexploded bombs still in danger lives in this Small Agricultural country jordyn wieber. Even today kids in laos full victims of bombs dropped decades ago is the us making amends for that tragedy and. Help to the people need in that little land on. 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But that likely wont come without legal challenges and a fight to prove it but by mail is project all heralded by the Truck Campaign this election similarly has lasted longer than a lifetime and amid the backdrop of a pandemic the competition for the white house only intensified unlike most countries america is known for a long painstakingly long president ial Campaign Cycle and for all the time and money spent on attack ads knocking on doors sending mail or calling people and using social media to change minds campaigns are high dollar events in fact the 20 president ial election was a whopper of worker setting proportions this president ial election cost 14000000000. 00 it is singularly the most expensive election in history and twice the cost of the 26000 president ial election breaking it down even with many unemployed and suffering from the weight of coping 102020 solemn more individual donations to campaigns in other years women in particular just kept giving and the donations were often sit the candidates from out of state democrats definitely went above and beyond blowing past republican election spending margins Democratic Candidates and groups spent 6900000000 dollars between super pacs big business individual giving and a strong sense of urgency following the death of Supreme CourtJustice Ruth Bader ginsburg democrats got the money machine rolling and here to break down those money bags in the 2020 campaign is jack a look cohost of by any means necessary welcome. Guys thanks for having me was that the fundraising structure in 2020 for the president ial race races has been very strong especially considering it continued to grow even after the pandemic hit what do you think are some of the driving factors and the biggest influences. Just the fact that the u. S. So is a form of political socialism and. Giving to campaigns i dont get that they they believe that you know least candidates come begging for money that you know they have to support them in order to save them from the other candidate who is also begging another group of people for money to save them from that other candidate and most americans dont understand that the entire Campaign Finance system in this country is a massive financial grassed of the American People but it is so baked into the political process that the money that is spent so obscure it really does a good job of hiding that the people so people believe that theyre funding better policies for themselves only really theyre just being ripped off by these politicians when you look at these numbers every 14000000000. 00 a massive amount of money to be spent on political campaigns them immediately my mind kind of goes to what else could we have gotten for 14000000000. 00 going to whether theres been a lot of talk about removing money from politics would have 2020 is i mean indication that isnt going to happen anytime soon not of the kind of numbers i was curious could you explain kind of the strength stronghold in the breakdown of individual donations from citizens versus you know Political ActionCommittee Spending and why one is as you know why a Political Actions would mean so much more devastating to our political process. I mean if your average american citizen really doesnt have a whole lot of money to give to individual candidates even though you know collectively well when individual people didnt like 27. 00 you know say bernie Bernie Sanders campaign yes for millions of individual people can give that amount of money to a candidate who is advocating for policies that will prove the material conditions of the people who are contributing to their. And thats one thing but were talking about Political Action committe