To their data to how theyve gotten to that conclusion, but they never received any. And now we have this allegation coming from love of saying that he could have been poisoned on the way to or while in germany, where do you think hes basing that off of he may have more information, which is not available to the outside world, who proclaimed hed move a little to the germans, so there could be very, very much the evidence isnt like joost on the plane because he was on the plane and he left the planes and therefore must be traces zoomable of the gauge and in the plane. So therefore, one would assume, perhaps the russians are now back social institution, which the germans do not have access. Because obviously they dont have control of the plane. And the news is a russian plane and remains in russia. So therefore, going to be very interesting to see how this develops because weve seen a lot of growth rings for, would have britons that the plane was in fact contaminated, that there are traces of these negatives. And in the plane, it could lead to the conclusion that perhaps he was in fact, he had ingested this know the choking agent in the plane while on the way to tomsk and on the way to germany. Thats of course speculation at this point. So we will have to see if any of that evidence does come forward. When all this story broke, just a couple months ago, relations between russia and germany took a pretty hard hit. People were looking at that. Whats going to change . Do you think todays announcement is going to also be a turn for the worse . Yes. Well, im going to merkel. The reputation in the lighted by coming out very strongly saying that hed been, hed been opposing them. Hed been poisoned in russia and it was a number which had been administered in russia. And she came out pretty strong, making that statement. And she visited me back in the, in the ship, her to a hospital in balad, which you, what extraordinary for you to stay to do that. So therefore, underlining the fact that she believed that he had been, quote poison in russia. If you like christie, her reputation and so on, it is in fact aligned here. And therefore, she would not find it very, very easy to begala and say, well sorry, i wasnt presented with all the facts. And thats all i was hasty in my judgment because you made a judgment good or very quickly. That was categorically mistaken. And no doubt what you have in the mind. So there was a lot of sygate out growth in the russian government brings forward evidence. Now that there was traces with traces of this agent in the plated. It is possible that there is a possibility that he infected ingested. Noble child the no joking agent in the plane going to arms and really landed numbs. The plane was contaminated, so he author and russia analyst martin mccauley. Thank you for joining us on the program to discuss our breaking news story. Thank you. Our global news after this short break, including on the fallout of the u. S. Election result, and the ongoing unrest in the armenian capital of a peace deal with azerbaijan. Thanks. The world is driven by a dream, shaped by one person with those thinks we dare to ask. , welcome back. Parts of the u. S. , Mainstream Media seem bent on the eliminating all doubt that joe biden won the race to the white house going so far as to brown reports on probes into alleged voter fraud. As misinformation are just explains questioning the u. S. Election results is tantamount to sack relig. The media is outraged that anyone would talk about ballot fraud, especially this New York Times columnist facebook is absolutely teeming with right wing misinformation right now. These are all among the 10 most engaged on the platform of the post 24 right wing information. So what is this misinformation that he feels is so dangerous and unacceptable and that well, perhaps the reason that this information is deemed to be so dangerous is because those headlines are actually true. And what about this guy . 2nd, pennsylvania u. S. P. S. Whistleblower claims postmaster ordered late ballots picked up and separated. While the Washington Post came forward and said, this is all a big hoax that the postal worker has recanted his story. Well, thats a great journalistic expose, except the postal worker says he has not recanted there to say that i did not prepare my statements. Head of the Republican NationalCommittee Says they have 234 pages containing the 500 signed affidavits alleging 11000 incidents of potential voter fraud. Now you have a media thats rigging it again by saying were not going to listen to these stories. Were not even to validate. The 11000 incident reports that we have, the 500 affidavits we have across the state. 11000 witnesses is not a small number. Now in georgia, Senate Runoff elections are coming up and another New York Times columnist has this idea. I bet everybody moves to georgia, you know, in the next month or 2 registers to vote and vote for these 2 democratic senators. Well, in georgia, that is actually a felony. It is illegal to move to georgia simply for the purpose of registering to vote. Only people in georgia with a stablished residency are able to vote. Republicans have a lot of questions about the Election Results that showed joe biden. As the clear winner. Now at this point weve got Mainstream Media saying those questions are simply off limits. However, that seems to be making the trump base even more involvement. R. T. , new york, the issue of voter fraud remains highly debated with many believing its been going on for ages while others demand more evidence. If there is fraud, and what the courts want to see is brought, you have to have a public particularities. Which means that who, what, when, why, where or how . Ok, so if there is fraud, where is it . You cant make conclusory allegations and thats what hes doing. And thats why its lawsuits are falling short. Thats what, thats why i say it didnt bring it for the democrats every time they lose an election and immediately cry, this is gone on for decades. But when the republicans lose the election, then the they are immediately expected to accept defeat. At the very time when the democrats saying no problems, no parole that took place. Anyone whos claiming that was a concern there is fear is that they should be actually actively perpetrating a fraud by saying go down to georgia for a golfing holiday and then when in the form. And so youre a legal resident that this is precisely a prelude. The u. S. State of georgia is to hold a vote recount the state generally goes for republicans. But this time the democrats have term to the post by 0. 3 percent. That narrow margin of victory has led to a hand recount. Thats a magical you actually have to do a full and by hand recount of all because the margin is so close right now. Its 14101. 00, its a big process to be a methodical process and youll be accurate process. And im sure that there are plenty of oversight. We want to make sure that both parties have the opportunity to observe this, because we understand the stakes are high. Georgia is a state with 16 votes in the u. S. Electoral college. So even if the state were to flip in trumps favor, that alone would not change the outcome of the election. But doug collins, who is heading, the Trump Campaigns efforts in georgia, still thinks a recount is an absolute must. We got to fight this president , deserves that. Thats what were doing for down here. Thats why were fighting to make sure that every legal vote is counted. And well see what happens. They have. 6 since november 3rd republicans have been talking about the possibility of fraud and ballot harvesting the Trump Campaign fall multiple lawsuits accusing local authorities of irregularities. Also seeking a recount of other states such as them out of pennsylvania and wisconsin. Many have dismissed these concerns as regis and have called joe biden to be the winner of the election. And others insist, its too early to call victor. Math is they are matched quite sure what it is that republicans are counting on, but the math is there. Biden is the president elect of the United States and i just find him. I dont find a surprising that trump is going out with this intro and the entire time in office. I am surprised that his followers are joining in on it makes one scratch ones head and say, this red mirage could have been kind of big question. Which set by to appear to be appear to be the president what hes not that we want to call it sends all letters in middle december that go for biden. Hes not president elect yet. The media is not that powerful in this country yet. They cant make him the president elect. The change of u. S. President could mean a change of fate. For julian songe that we can honor is currently in the u. K. Prison waiting for a court to decide whether or not to extradite him stateside. Under the trump administration, he was charged under the u. S. Espionage act on 18 counts. Hes accused of unlawfully obtaining and publishing state secrets and if extradited faces up to 175 years in prison. Democrats, by including have pulled their punches when discussing a songe in the past. Because you can also use a high tech terrorist, others say this is akin to the pentagon faced. What do you compare . I would argue that is closer to being the high tech terrorist. And then the pentagon papers, he should be treated as an enemy combatant, with ulead, should be closed down permanently and decisively. This guy is a traitor, a treasonous, and he has broken every law the United States, the guy ought to be. And im not for the death penalty, so if im not for the death, i dont want to do it illegally. Shoot the son of a house or with the dog as its been hard and facts, the Obama Biden Administration actually prosecuted. More whistleblowers than any other less includes. Chelsea manning who leaked documents to Julian Assange and edward snowden, who lifted the lid on the n. S. A. s mass surveillance programs are the Obama Administration decided not to charge a staunch himself. Earlier, my colleague neil harvey spoke to us on just former legal representative julian burnside. He says that the future looks brighter for the wiki leaks founder and president joe biden. I know that hes revelations about Hillary Clinton affected the democrats rather than the republicans. But in my opinion, joe biden is a much more rational being that donald trump, if it was. How would you assess joe bidens approach towards whistleblowers . I know that when he was Vice President in the president ial year, a bomber had made a big thing about, you know, trying to create opportunities for whistleblowers to encourage them. But actually, the reality was quite different and they prosecuted more whistleblowers, i think than any other ministration prior to them. I still think that biden will adopt a rational approach. Mind you, he will not be president of the 4th of january. So i suspect, or on 4th of january, if biden is ultimately accepted as the president , i think thats going to be a better outcome for than it would otherwise be on the part of the reason why assad is in the the predicament he is because of the leaking of information, private information relating to the Democratic Party by an obviously democrat to think all will be forgiven and forgotten to well to the next stents or will that still bay some kind of goods from the party itself. Its worth remembering that Chelsea Manning received a pardon or commutation from a bomber. And i think the same thinking that lead to that result is likely to influence biden, if he becomes president. And if assad ends up in america, theres talk of the likelihood hell be sent to the supermax prison, which the warden previous warden of not prison said in the face were worse than death being sent. Its a pretty horrible prospect. And the way Chelsea Manning was treated in relation to the same matters or related matters gives no confidence about the way sound will be treated. Its a reason why the strain in government should come in and help him, but theyve done nothing. Absolutely nothing to help him. I think we should be concerned about about if hes mistreated, i dont see any leader of the mainstream press. Who is sought to be punished as a result of the publication of things that the published calls for donald trump. To concede the election are getting ever a louder, but democrats appear to have forgotten that in 2016, they too found it hard to accept a projected loss artist and hawkins compares then. And now, despite the heated rhetoric fierce the by downright insults in the run up to the election, one thing remains untouchable, the integrity of the vote counting process and certification Vice President biden. Final question for you will, you were urging his supporters to stay calm while the vote is counted and will you pledge not to declare victory until the election is independently sort of . Yes, but as the race went meccan, meg with supporters on both sides, claiming victory was within their grasp the rules of the game changed. Sarah, what do you say to the americans that are anxious over the fact that President Trump has yet to concede . And what that might mean for the country . Well, i just think its a baseless claims by the president and his supporters, that theres been widespread voter fraud and that the election was somehow rigged or stolen from President Trump. That kind of rhetoric is extremely dangerous, extremely poisonous to our democracy. If i were an Intelligence Analyst in a foreign country, looking at the United States, you know, id be, id be writing up the slow slide into autocracy. There was a time when democrats saw things differently and their candidates lost by more Electoral College votes than this election was viewed as an injustice. As ive been telling candidates who have come to see me, you can run the best campaign. You can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you. The kremlin was allegedly behind that election result helping trump to power several years. And millions of dollars later, an investigation concluded there was no criminal conspiracy. Yet now the boy in this projected so when the results are accepted at face value and this thought the presidency was a power and he won fair and square. All weve seen so far in the us is the Mainstream Media, which of course has been behind joe biden, 1000 percent declaring on their own. The joe biden, as the president elect with Democratic Party for 4 years, and still not conceded that Hillary Clinton lost in 2016 no matter what they did, no matter how they tried to steal the election from trump. At the time they invented russia, great to try to 1st, undermine then candidate and one, trump one undermine his presidency at the point of the apocalypse. And its a bunch of lies from the democrats. But even if biden didnt win, the democrats had a back up plan. No surrender. Joe biden should not concede under any circumstances because i think this is going to drag out. And eventually i do believe he will win if we dont get him. And now the tables are turned with trump refusing to concede his opponent, so willing to go to just about any links to see the back of him, plus present tense. The cabinet had an ounce of fortitude and spine and patriotism. I think they would seriously consider booking the 25th amendment and pushing donald trump out and calls from the democrats who spent almost the entire term looking for evidence the election was stolen for trump to accept defeat and move on. Looked like double standards at best, left out have any law, no lockers about how the president should immediately sure are probably going to Election Results from the same characters or just spent 4 years refusing to follow to develop a larger and who and sonia waited that this one would be illegitimate coup if they lost again only if they love armenians are furious about their countrys peace deal with azerbaijan, seeing it as a humiliating defeat. The last 2 days here, a bomb has been gripped by on rests with protesters, calling for the Prime Ministers head to roll. How do you judge that the unrest continued into the night with police resorting to tear gas at one point. Protesters gathered near the parliament building, or multiple arrests were made, artistic or sound of reports on how a ceasefire at the front has unleashed a firestorm of rage in the armenian capital. Meaning i was going through a national tragedy. People are gathering for mass protests, absolutely heartbroken and shocked. That armenia has agreed to pass to turn over huge patches of land. It used to control in the golan a cow back over to azerbaijan. And there are refugees who fled the fighting and now have joined these protests saying that they feel betrayed. Saying that they feel that their sons, fathers and brothers, died for nothing. He says that theyre here. I left a car about 3 weeks ago. Oh, my family are there. The bombs fell outside our house. There were children there, and they didnt know where to go. What to do. And then they realized the worry was happening. Children died young boys for what to give away or land. This treaty is an attack on our millions, when the Prime Minister signed it, he betrayed us. If we were willing to give up the slant, we wouldnt have sent so many young men to work. And this sentiment is shared by those who choose to take to the streets to they say that they want the signature of nicole crushing the armenian Prime Minister to be revoked, to be retracted from the, from the documents. Because they say that the do want peace. But not on such humiliating terms. I want to or did all of these the long straight. There were no right. To sign a piece of paper to give away the lands of those homes to make people homeless. We are what i was just. We showed our borders, are you fighting the borders and was like you and stole our line from the Bord