A war against iran. A conventional war you are on is simply too powerful. Thats all for me to stop with nicki are and will be in the hall seats in 30 minutes to keep you up to date with all the very latest. Well news. Thank you for your company. The what was supposed to be a call to action for thousands of americans, frustrated with the lack of immigration security at the southern border. Turned out to be a raleigh of just a few 100 over 3 states as geico hughes in on this edition of 360. 00 view. Were going to discuss whether the maxim move it still possesses the power to motivate unimportant issues, including showing up at the polls in november. So lets get started. The in january, the Supreme Court ruled the federal government, not texas had authority over the border, and Border Control could start cutting down the razor wire, erected by Texas Governor greg abbott, all to help secure the border. And response a take back our border truck or convoy a group of christian truckers held events across texas, arizona in california, which included concerts and speakers. Now the 8th was to help spread awareness and peacefully protest. President jo bidens position on the border and the open border policies. He stands behind notables like former Vice President ial candidate and governor of alaska. Sarah palin, as well as feigned the rocker. Ted nugent took the stage. The organizes of the protests were aiming for 700000. 00 plus to attend. However, actual numbers felt very short, but the only several hundreds showing up. Now almost all the latest polls show the subject of Border Security and immigration rigging, as number 2 or number 3 and voters might hit by the showing of this last rally against the lack of security at the southern border. You would think the only action voters are looking to take on the issue is going to be on election day. But its ridiculous to say a politician is going to take care of a problem, especially if its one that they have done Everything Possible to avoid fixing in the past as somebody or and say, encouraged this problem to grow. Well, lets discuss this with our panel joined me today, our former dual credit congressman from florida, alan grayson, whose personality is just as bright as that shirt. And from new york, we have typical analyst, steve malls, bird and director of policy studies at the center for immigration studies. Jessie von, thank you so much for joining me. Lets make sure we have a lively conversation on this because i do believe it is an important issue. And i will start with you just because i remember the anti obamacare rallies that happened in 2009 in do you see there were thousands of people that all really lead to the birth of the tea party . There was enough momentum in the Anti Government controlled health care to Flip Congress in 2010. So lets move it to today. Do you think americans really care about what is going on at the border . And enough that it could actually have an effect on the outcome of an election of the most definitely do care. And i think it really could affect the outcome of this coming election because there are such stark differences among the candidates on their immigration positions, at least between the democrats and the republicans. Under the last 3 years of the, by the administration, weve seen the, the worst crisis along the border in our history with higher levels of ilLegal Immigration that weve ever seen. And a lot of Public Safety and fiscal and Security Problems as a result. Um, even if maybe not Everybody Loves donald trump, but they do love is immigration policy. And i would trust donald trump more to um to bring order to our border and to get this crisis fixed. So, you know, so im sure there will be other issues at play, but the immigration issue apparently is the one that people care most about right now, regardless of their political affiliation. Is that how you see it outlined in the fact that this is an issue thats bi partisan . I know theyre trying to make a deal in washington dc for element seems like the 2nd decade in a row. Do you think this is a that is just clear cut between democrats and republicans . You know, this is a republicans trying to make an issue because they feel like making an issue. A joe biden arrested more people to border in one year than donald trump didnt 4 years of age out in nearly an 8000000 out of the 12000000 mexicans who across the border across the board during the George W Bush administration, was this is republicans desperately trying to take attention away from the fact that theyre likely candidate has been indicted for times is having his business strict away from him because of fraud and so on and so forth. Hes literally the worst person in america, and theyre the ones hes, hes the one that theyre putting up to be present, United States. Theyre just trying to distract us. Okay. Says hey, do you agree that theyre just trying to distract from their kid up and using immigration . Is the issue. Yeah, right. Well then that, that then its the most successful distraction in the history of the world. Look at the polls. Love. This is all become a horrific joke, joe biden, on day one on did all the advances that donald trump forwarded the ways to keep our border secure. It did it with the pen. Now hes Walking Around pathetically, of course, and saying, he needs congress. I need congress for the power or the terms with the power to get, take the same don pin and, and do what he did on day one and put trumps executive orders and policies back in action. Well, you have people, you have minority communities in new york city, chicago, and all over the place up in arms over the illegals that are coming into their communities, getting housing, getting free for getting free medical care. Theyre saying what about us, what it. 6 to our kids. So this is, this speaks to old demographics. Everybodys upset about this. And this is a, a winning issue. I dont wish it wasnt an issue, but the democrats dont want to put the border against it is up. They dont want to keep it close, and yet ive got to ask you steve this weekend or this past week for theyve been doing these rallies at the borders. Not many people are showing up. So i want to bring this back to the topic today of, of the power of mag on single issues like immigration. Do you think the truck or crumbling canada was successful . And why are you not seeing that same type of success when it comes to immigration orders in the United States at the southern border . Well, if youre talking to me, i, i think got as far as the rallies and people not showing up. I dont know. I mean, i, you know, its, uh, i, i can answer for anybody else, but i, i will say this, listen to this job, kirby, the National Security spokesman. When asked, why would you want to take down the, the barbed wire, the razor benches. And it really separates, keeping the people out as me, and his answer was what a boarder regence have to do their job. They up the process, the people. So think about that. We have to let the illegals in. So the boarder regence and they think their job to do is to process them not to keep them out. Thats the logic. This sick twisted, cemented logic of visit ministration. Oh, we dont want to keep them out because the Border Agents have to do their job. Thats, thats insanity. But just so you look at this from an actual policy standpoint. Do you feel like any of the bills are being crafted right now in washington dc, youre actually going to help bring a by both sides of the aisle are actually going to bring a solution to this problem as well. The bill that was passed in the house of representatives called h r 2 definitely would restore security at our border. It would and the catch and release. It would reform the assign on system in a constructive way so that it can be abused by Illegal Migrants making frivolous asylum claims. It would go after sanctuary cities. It would go after employers who agreed just the higher illegal workers and bypass american workers. It would give them money to ice, to enforce the immigration laws in the interior of the country. You know, all the, the 8000000 illegal aliens and bite and it has allowed in. So yes, thats a solution. And there are executive actions that could be taken as well. But this, this deal that was just negotiated and went down in flames in the senate was not a so was not a Border Security bill. It was a, a massive convocation of the disastrous and reckless by the administration catch and release policies with increases in Legal Immigration on top of it. I mean what, what kind of a big, i mean they really think people were going to vote for a bill that during and a mass migration crisis required the government to let it in admissible migraines, through the ports of entry. It was nonsense and it was due to fail. Well, alex and you dont take the necessary, theres a problem. This is just being used by republicans. Then why are democrats all of a sudden putting attention to this in the house in the senate right now watching you see, youve been up on the hill before. Nothing usually gets done. It takes a lot. And yeah, you are having democrats starting to have the conversation about what is going on at the southern border. Could you even think that this might even affect the election in some form . It will look the, the republicans, including on the show apparently are simply lying about the democrats. There is no open border policy. There never has been. Its nonsense. Well, if youre an open border policy was by never arrested. 2 and a half 1000000 people, the southern border last year. This is just absolute flagrant nonsense. A democrats responding to it because they have to respond to every lot. If you dont respond to like, people assume its true how many times that we hear about the lies about obamacare, through 60 votes to reveal it. Now its the border of the border of the border. And its, its simply because the republicans are desperate to play a part of peoples fear and peoples hatred. Well, its true that immigrants can, but im very familiar with the me. Are you like to live . You know, awesome. Have you been watching anything usually of your turn . I mean, are you really that route . Well, but heres the thing that i dont like. I would never let anybody call anybody or i dont think that i dont think anybody purposely live on this show. That being said, i, this is definitely a political issue and so you kind of fire back and forth. But if there isnt in the result, what are you responsible . And they say, the reason why joe biden is arrested more than donald trump. That because theres more coming across the border to arrest that with the us during the bible ministration, letting the people that they arrest into the country instead of removing them, which is what ive done during the resume, including a rock obama. Okay, so alan, fix what youre saying, and ill let you back and then a lot of exposure needs. Okay. The only reason why the flow was reduced during the last administration because cove it is because of mexicans, even though it costs the board that very likely died. And that that was a temporary situation. Now were basically back to normal except for the back. The button in australian is in fact enforcing the law despite the fact that the people that are on it mostly about open borders. It simply isnt the case that is a lie. Well then im gonna, i wanna let and steve have a word here because youre objecting to steve, youre in new york city right now. If we dont have a problem, the little ilLegal Immigration. Why is the mayor are asking for money and the governor asking for money from the federal government to help subsidize what is happening and there was city but you know, they, they didnt even network adams and, and kept the whole go, have said that the administration is not doing enough to, to help facilitate what the needs of the city which has been overrun and, and im glad that its been overrun because texas should not have to bear the burden of dividing policy. While these cities, like new york city, call themselves the sanctuary. Cities proudly, but then its our mothers vineyard, are like, oh, dont send them to us, were sanctuary city, but we dont want them. So im glad that new york and other cities are tasting what its like, protects us, and its only a little taste, but its outrages and we all saw the 2 Police Officers beaten by a bunch of illegals thugs. And um, thats a big problem, especially in new york city right now and elsewhere around the country. Crime from illegals. Well, im glad youre not dodge song, because if you called somebody, if you would be national headlights on, thats the one i want my panel to stick around because were going to can choose discussion. Because i guess all the attention of the border has started to take a toll on politicians, on both sides. The i hope because when we return, were going to look at the legislation being proposed on the federal level. And if its solve the problem, the why is one border state governor having to make his own Border Security policies will be right back the, to take a fresh look around this life kaleidoscopic isnt just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real live indians fixtures design to simplify all confused. Who really wants a better wills and is it just because it shows you fractured images, present it is, but can you see through their illusion going underground . Can the ok welcome back. Im scroll down here and you are watching 360 view, Texas Governor greg abbott is defined the wishes of president buying as well as the Supreme Court and is expanding operation lonestar. This is the controversial Border Security initiative that he launched in 2021. The operation has included deploying Texas National guard members along the mexican border, installing a floating barrier in the Rio Grande River and initiating safety inspections on commercial trucks arriving at ports of entry from mexico. So our golf course in america, going to start making their own policies for their states when the federal government fails to. Lets bring back in our panel. We have former democratic congressman from florida, alan grayson, political analysts, the mazda park, and director of policy studies at the center of emigration studies. Jesse von, you know, before we left i, there was one question that i wanted to carry over from it. I wanna, i wanna actually go back to alan grayson on this one because at this stage, this past year over the over its of these riley, there was one stage the feature an anti immigrated fear mongering, an anti trans bigotry wrapped in a christian nationalist package that was what was quoted observed from one reporter for vice magazine. And as youve looked into these rallies that had been happening at the border at this time, is that what you sort of gleam from the message that is happening at these rallies . I think its largely a failure of these rallies, the fundamental messages that there are failure, that the despite their best efforts, the republicans are having difficulty whipping up peoples fever and hatred against other people. And the result of that is, is that they probably will fail november and compare thats what we were talking about before the tea party. Whatever the tea party is that the coat brothers spend hundreds of millions of dollars to bust people, then on these protests put them up and nice hotels, show them a good time in washington dc. But the feel is that they were on vacation. Well, fox news and cnbc relentlessly promoted these events. Thats not happening now. Thats not happening because the cope brothers are on the other side of this right now. They want their cheap labor costs across the board as much as they can. So they can staff the refineries in texas and ends and obviously foxes and trump dont get along that well these days. So what, whats happened is the money and the power that was put by the Tea Party Protest simply isnt there right now for these protests, no state laws, burge and now, and i know you probably dont agree with him, but steve, you have to agree with what allen just said that i name is have changed, especially amongst the traditional republican support, including the cope. Brothers has theyve been very much pro the chamber of commerce position of open border agreements with mexico and the immigration issue. How does that go . How does that change the dynamics within the Republican Party and the motivation of the people within that make up the party as well . I, i think that the American Public all in general, if you look at the polls over whelming lead by almost 40 percent, they said donald trump is better equipped to handle the immigration problem, then they are the hands. And then it is the joe by abortion, is war in order of importance by immigration, which is right up there with the economy. And i know the left likes to cry, you know, they to boise is going to be their winning issue to say that americans dont care and know and its not working. And no ones interested in. And, and, you know, this is a made up issue and youve got to be living underground. Youve got to be out of touch with america. Everybodys talking about this. You got them emptying schools in new york city. So hows the illegals . Hey, let the kids learn from home. You got crock people sleeping in the streets, beating of cops. I mean, you cant walk the streets, and nobody cares. This is a made up issue. And again, its all joe biden small because the on did everything that donald trump put in place to keep it in. Check the on did it on day one with his pin, and he can do it again in reverse already pretends. And the media is compressed and in this and so what democrats like the congressman here, they say, oh no, its got to be congress to do it bologna. Well, one person is doing for the bows. Governor abbot. So jesse, do you agree with how Governor Abbot has handled the situation in the past and his decision about taking actions into his own hand and lives the federal government,