Transcripts For RUSSIA1 Voskresnii 20240703

, i want it , tomorrow, ill tell you how it all started for us, your department is becoming, more precisely temporarily, changing its specialization, i can help, we are wasting time , do not allow andry nikolaevch it is simply extremely unwise to act as a doctor. So what now . Doctor krasnov, continuation, well watch it tomorrow. At 21 20. I welcome you, dear friends, to our next episode of the besagon tv authors program. It will be called milparon under the blanket. Milparon in french, a thousand apologies. I think you will understand why we named our program that way. But as usual. First i want to report to you that our previous program, which was called the reflection of the occupier, was also broadcast on the russia24 channel, on the russia1 channel, on youtube in telegram channel, was watched by more than 12 million viewers, for which of course, a huge thank you to you, where i would like to start our release, look, there is such a mrs. Maria gesson. She is a journalist, a writer, she was the director of the Russian Service of radio liberty, she is an activist of the lgbt movement, she is generally an advanced modern person , she uses he, she, they instead of pronouns , well, in 2013 she left russia for the usa, in russia a criminal case was opened against her for dissemination of fakes about the armed forces of our country, especially, of course, behind falsification. Events in bucha. In general, a fairly clear and banal story. But what caught our attention . So we came across this note from journalist anastasia mironova. Masha gessen, for 11 years , remained silent about the mass molestation of children at a prestigious school. Exactly 7 years ago, on september 3, 2016, i published another post that is now banned. On facebook that masha gessen was involved in the longterm concealment of mass cases of pedophilia in the Privileged School no. 57, where teachers, in fact, openly deceived children for more than 10 years. Masha gesson was then the editorinchief of gala magazine. Having learned about cases of teachers inducing children to cohabitate at this school, i sent correspondent katya krongaus to investigate, she figured it out, but they decided not to publish the material, it turned out that many children from their circle of good people study at the school, they simply decided not to bring up this topic in order to do not spoil the reputation of the school, because your children study there. By the way, later, journalist krongaus nevertheless raised this topic, but this was when she had already completed her work with the magazine gala all the perpetrators were punished. Well, whats interesting is this fiery heart, masha gesson, who denounced the regime, but as soon as the matter touched her circle, as soon as the matter touched her own, she merged, she did not raise this question, why . But because there is such a concept, people of a circle, in western terms its. Called a lobby, that is, having convicted one, you instantly go beyond the line of this circle, and you lose everything, earnings, grants, an invitation to a party, the opportunity to meet someone something, influence and so on and so forth, became its interesting for us to figure this out, look, that is, it turns out that state power, relatively speaking, or the foundations of the state, which the liberal community is so opposed to, they are much more liberal than this community itself, there is nothing to be afraid of, you wont get anything for it , it will happen to you if you act differently towards your own. And confirmation of this is a very interesting Conspiracy Theory that appeared in 1992, which was called the clinton body count. Look at this a list of mysterious murders while they were in power. One of the first to die in their circle was victor riser, who was collecting funds for the foundation. Clinton, he died in a plane crash. In 1993 , vincent foster, a friend and Business Partner of the clintons who had information about their finances, mysteriously committed suicide. In 1997, former white house intern mary mahoney was shot and killed in a cafe. Before that, she was going to talk about clintons harassment. She. Russian spy, garrett williams, who hacked into the server where beales personal information was stored clinton, found on august 23, 2010 in london. His body was found in a red duffel bag. Investigators came to the conclusion that the Intelligence Officer accidentally died during an erotic experiment. In 2016. John william ashe, former chairman of the un general assembly, unsuccessfully dropped the barbell on his neck. He was supposed to testify about illegal financing of Hillary Clintons election campaign. Journalist victor thorne, author of expose books about the clintons ties to the arms trade , was later found shot dead. Drugs. The investigators verdict was suicide again. And so on. To date, 47 people from the clinton clan have died of unnatural causes. But Something Else seems important to me here one of the latest victims is billionaire jeffrey epstein, who was accused of trafficking underage girls for highranking officials. He was arrested on july 6, 2019 on charges of trafficking of minors, and on august 10, 2019, he was found dead in his cell, and due to some strange circumstance, the video cameras werent working at that time, there was no security, no one saw anything, it just happened somehow, it just happened, it happened exactly on the eve of how he. Was supposed to testify in court. Who was on epsteins list of those who visited his island in the caribbean . Very interesting list. For example, this is bart College President leon batstein, Supreme Court chief justice john robert, google cofounder sergey brin, cia director, william burns, professor noam chomsky, and director woody allen. Billionaire and philanthropist, bill gates, and in addition, former Prime Minister of israel, ehud barak, british Prince Andrew and other very, very influential and rich people, it is interesting that during a search in epsteins house a portrait of clinton in a womans dress was found, like this. I ask you, you follow the flow of information, imagine the president. Countries of the United States, who poses for an artist in a womans dress in highheeled shoes, well, in general, like something about this, yes, the same thing is happening around barack obama, look, he drowned in a pond 2. 5 m deep, obamas estate, his personal chef, who worked with him throughout his presidency , despite the fact that he was a semiprofessional rower and an excellent swimmer, the director of the Hawaii State Department of health, loretti fuddy, who certified the certificate that obama was born in hawaii, not kenya. Because there were rumors that obama was actually born in kenya, and therefore had no right to be the president of the United States of america, well , in the end it turns out that obama has something to hide, remember the very recent scandalous interview that the famous Tucker Carlson took with a certain larry sinclair. Remember this information . Then i gave 250 to buy coke, and when he came back, i made a track on the cd box to make it easier to snort, all this happened in the limousine, yes, right on the move, or you parked, yes no, we carried on to go, so im making a new path, and so you understand, somewhere around here, all sorts of tamekos usually begin, i started stroking his thigh to let me know what i wanted from him and to see his reaction, and i was not. Mistaken, he understood me, thats when everything happened for us, so we had a fun night in the limousine with drugs and sex. So , you are stroking his leg, to be honest, as a man who is not turned on by gay sex, if they started doing this to me, i would say hey, chill out, buddy. believe me, there have been times when i misunderstood guys. Once they even almost broke my arm, but then it didnt look too much so that he is far from such entertainment. My actions didnt shock him; if he had been shocked, he wouldnt have gotten excited, wouldnt have unbuttoned his pants and wouldnt have allowed our sex to happen. So this was definitely not baracks first time, im absolutely sure of that. Despite the fact that rumors that obama is a person of an unconventional orientation have been circulating for a long time, because he was still in college. Obama wrote to his girlfriend that he makes love to men every day, but in his imagination. Listen, i have absolutely everything it doesnt matter who lives with whom, well, well, thats everyones business, im talking about Something Else, im talking about the fact that in all this there is always some kind of human flaw, im talking about who gets power over people, over the world, over the war, you may ask why we started with hesson, but its very simple, this is a small example of an existing. In the circle of ones lobby, where hand washes hand, as a result it turns into a world problem, the world lobby, the world globalist lobby, where hand washes his hand, where they dont want to notice the truth, where any lie and its not true, with extraordinary ease, for millions of people, for the truth on the contrary, this is the most terrible thing, but we can be surprised , lets imagine, for a second, i dont know, i didnt see, i wasnt a witness, well, you can imagine yourself, an orgy, say, my epstein on his caribbean island, what happened there and how, if as a result it ended with him having to. killed, hanged in his own cell, so that he could not tell, what actually happened there with the most powerful of this world, so what to demand then from students, even ours, look, this is initiation into students of the Moscow State University of management, guu. 5, 8, 9, 10. Are these future managers, political scientists, economists . Why not president s . Why not . But this is already a Higher School of economics, also dedicated students, they will pass laws, articles for our population, tell and teach them how to live, by what rules, they will lead our country as a result. We are already used to it, we are constantly being pulled back, well that you are exaggerating, that you are a conspiracy theorist. They are children, they will grow up in the end, but the fact is that from this harmlessness, from this postulate, they are children, they grow up into adults, and suddenly it turns out that nothing has changed in their selfawareness, look, russian historian, political scientist , director of the Arbatov Institute of the usa and canada, correspondent of the Russian Academy of sciences, karbozov, he was born in pskov, worked as a history teacher, and in 1990 graduated from graduate school at the Leningrad State Pedagogical Institute named after hertsin. Candidates dissertation, then a doctorate, in 1997 and 1998 he went to the usa to study as a fulbright scholar, where he was on an internship at the university of tennessee, and the program is the Largest Program funded by the us state department, here on august 29 , 2023, mr. Garbuzov writes. An article in an independent newspaper entitled for selfknowledge of russia, knowledge is needed, not myths, i do not want and will not evaluate the quality of literature, this is not my business and the matter here is completely different. Listen today on wave of antiwestern sentiments, in an atmosphere of pseudopatriotic frenzy that has gripped those who regularly listen to old songs about the main thing, the population of russia, which with amazing ease, naively thoughtlessly, perceives the theses of total state propaganda, new myths are created, and with them the modern utopian consciousness is formed. Further he writes about the aggressive Foreign Policy activity that has not left russia throughout. Historical development, and about the United States of america, he writes like this, they still retain their attractiveness, evidenced by the endless flows of immigrants, about 1 Million People stay in the usa every year, the usa is a Nuclear Superpower that maintains the world. In areas such as the global economy, finance, military, innovation, direct investment and culture. Damn it, what are you talking about . Culture, this is a russian historian, admires american culture, and what does he mean, what kind of culture of the country that arose in the 16th century, which combines everything, all eclecticism, european, african, mexican, indian, which is all woven like a tender odiyala, or maybe he means the wonderful sellenger or achamingway , or mark twain, and many people on the street, if you ask in new york or washington, know who mark is. Maybe now he knows why . And because it was canceled due to incorrect treatment of people of color , calling them blacks, this is the culture of a country that cancels its own, one of the few great writers, for the sake of the trend, or maybe mr. Karbuzov means hollywood, or the most vulgar concept of the american dream, ideology, i have a question, the historian garuzov had never heard, and if i heard him, he would think this wonderful, absolutely stunning thought expressed by charles dickens, a brilliant english writer, 150 years ago, having visited the United States states, Americas Mission to vulgarize the universe, that is, even then 150 years ago, an insightful, Brilliant Writer already predicted how this would develop, what it would lead to, its interesting, this is why an institute was created in the ussr under the russian one. Us institute and canada. Well, for what . Well, probably, in order to understand, study, disassemble , feel all the undercurrents, trends, possible future movements, how the past is connected to the present, what to expect, what to fear, how to protect . And this is probably exactly what the task should have been, and probably was. When the institution of america and canada arose, and not in order to merge oneself with it, and this is an accident, this is due to stupidity, due to naivety, due to oversight, why . 18 years old, russian historian, candidate, heads this organization, 18 years old, he was different, he became so, i think, no, but this is that no one saw, no one knew, no one understood, he was a loner, well, okay, apparently. An article in an independent newspaper seemed to be the last straw, justice prevailed, the public was outraged and the director of the institute, mr. Garbuzov, was forced to leave his post, which he held for 18 years, and i am interested in the question, and those who put him in this place, those those who worked with him there, who apparently shared his point of view, they remained. After all, a huge number of that very nonsovereign elite, who sacrificed their man, they cannot guarantee us that the next one, or after one or two, at their suggestion, the director of this institute will be the same person, who thinks the same, who also preaches, who believes. In his youth, of course was a revolutionary, and when he grew up he became a monarchist, this is what he said our advanced educated man is capable of loving only the russia of the future, where there is no trace of the russian left, brilliant, this is genius for sure, and i find this. The statements are the simplest, look, italians may tolerate the infirmity of their heavenly king berlusconi or some taxes or some laws, but they cannot help but love italy, they can not love what prevents them from living in a way that seems prosperous to them. The french may hate macron or pension reform or Something Else, but they cannot hate. In our country, not love for anything turns into dislike for ones country, for ones homeland, for russia, and up, so to speak, the evidence is a phrase from lermonov, goodbye to unwashed russia, which all enemies have learned and use with pleasure, but just as lermontov loved russia, only by loving it so much could he write these. Roads, because this is not dissidence, but pain, but dissidence, when, for example, a Foreign Agent, teachers, ekaterina shulman, can quite calmly give advice to parents on how their children can avoid patriarchal lessons at school, listen to how you can try in a situation of threat of pressure, if it exists , reduce these losses again, russia is large and diverse, moreover, russia is still quite liberal, and this situation has not changed, legislation on education, what do i mean by liberalism . Not all schools are public, there is no compulsory education in the sense that, like in germany, all children must go to school , family homeschooling is allowed, look at your school carefully, again due to the great diversity of our russia, a lot depends on the director, if your director is an enthusiast, then your business is bad if. A little better, as for conversations about important things, you can unwind from them, since this is an extracurricular activity, the child is obliged to engage in this extracurricular activity, but is not obliged at this particular school, so you write a statement to the teacher, to the principal, to the class teacher, stating that at this particular time your child is playing the bayan at the music school, or they are going skating, i think that a certificate from the section youll get it. Pay attention, what an amazing incident, she lives in germany, she says that in germany this does not work, they are strict with this, in russia yes, its easy, why . Yes, precisely because the same nonsovereign elite. I want to read you the letter that we received. Dear. I am a surgeon working in the zone of a special military operation in ukraine. Next i will skip the first name, patronymic and last name for obvious reasons. Wounded guys, many of whom were lost. Colleagues who come to us from the front fortunately have all the conditions for rehabilitation, including televisions in the ward , but on which they can watch a new wonderful show about animals among friends, hosted by dmitry sheppelev, who said a year and a half ago, that he is ashamed of our country. I dont know how to explain to these guys why the one who questions what they risk their lives for every day is entertaining them on screens today for public money. Who will explain to me what to tell them . I think, dear doctor, today we partially tried to talk on this topic and answer these questions. And perhaps an explanation can be found for this. For example, we receive other requests. This is written by subscribers in my telegram channel. Dear nikita sergeevich, how to explain. The fact that singer anya loroc, who transferred money to the armed forces of ukraine, sits on the jury on the ntv channel, i know that her concerts were canceled in rostov, krasnodar, now she plans to give a concert in moscow in september, how is this possible, is it possible to raise this topic, well, in general, it is our duty, in principle, to you, to the audience , to raise, discuss those questions that. You pose, we checked, indeed, a new season has been released on the ntv channel, a popular show, you are super, where in jury, including peoples artist of ukraine, singer anna laura, a year and a half ago, anna laura wrote these passionate texts on her page my beloved brothers and sisters, there is a war in ukraine, a murderous and destructive war, every day civilians die, and the worst children, i am. Ukrainian, i am a mother , my loved ones are now under fire in ukraine, like millions of ukrainians, i beg you to stop this senseless, unnecessary war. Then she leaves for europe, where, as we are told, she gives concerts, some funds from these concerts allegedly go to the armed forces of ukraine, to the armed forces forces of ukraine, i want to immediately make a reservation that i have no prejudices towards mr. Sheppelev, not at all, we just received these letters associated with their names, thats why we are talking about them, so as not to fantasize and not spread gossip, we contacted the president ial administration , into the structures that actually deal with such issues. This is what they told us, anya loroc after the start. Sfo, being under the emotional influence of information about the beginning of active hostilities on its social networks, posted several posts on support for ukraine. Currently, anna lork takes an active part in a Charity Fundraiser for children who suffered during the svo, and also provides Financial Assistance to the state budgetary institution, the shakhtyorsky orphanage for the disabled, the dpr, and so on. The deputy head of the administration of the president of the Russian Federation, press secretary of the president of the Russian Federation, Dmitry Sergeevich peskov, vouched for the loyalty of annie loroc. Can i not believe the official answer on this matter from serious people from the president ial apparatus . Of course i cant, of course, i believe this is a document. But i have a question, i asked this question to me. It was answered, to those people who write to us, to them, who will answer . I, well, yes, i can answer now, im already answering, im doing it, but here its important that not only the president ial Administration Knows about how this or that artist behaved in the future, because they are not performing in front of the president ial administration, in front of people who pay money for their performances, and these. People want to know what they really think, otherwise it turns out that a declaration, so to speak, a condemnation, sincere, passionate and so on, it is public and loud, and so to speak, Everything Else, milel pardon under the blanket, its quiet there, sorry, for gods sake, we wont do it anymore, come on, go there, go there, thats it, and lets go to crocus city, well , thats true, but respect. It makes sense only mutually, in my opinion, the time between chairs is over, this is the time, we need to decide, in this regard, i want to remember one, in my opinion, wonderful quote from a very good writer sergei davlatov, he wrote we endlessly scold comrade stalin, and of course, for good reason, i still want to ask who wrote 4 million denunciations, that s interesting, here are the letters that we received from our viewers from a doctor, there from just viewers , is it a denunciation or not, in my opinion, this is a very sincere attempt of people to get answers to a question that worries them, really worries them, because living in the uncertainty of how to relate to something is very difficult, this is a sincere desire to figure it out, but a denunciation is at all. And i will now give you an example of what is danos there is such an actor anatoly bely, he worked in vamkhat, was popular , starred in many tv series, the audience knew him, loved him, he very sharply condemned the military operation, he said that he was ashamed, he said that he despises everyone those who support what happened, and slamming the door. Left our country, went to israel, this man, in my opinion, committed two betrayals first, he betrayed his homeland, which gave him everything, education, profession, fame, money, the opportunity to live comfortably, i realized that i dont want to live here, i cant live here, i wont live here, the country is an aggressor, and a terrorist who really poses a threat to the world, i have a happy opportunity, i repatriated to israel by blood and thats it, if again to ask absolutely unpretentious shades where your homeland is, then ill tell bratslov, definitely , the human in me was laid there, not unfortunately in russia, i really want to do something in ukraine in the future, when it wins, and i absolutely as a person now open world, i see myself there too, okay. Lets say you dont accept what is happening, you despise what is being done, you are categorically against the military operation, you are sure that your country is the aggressor, this is your right, you think so, consider it, you left, slamming the door, for me this is betrayal , because before. Accusing your country of being an aggressor, it would be nice to think about the fact that 8 years before this moment, russian people in Eastern Ukraine were bombed, shot, killed, tormented, tortured, and so on, you this is not i saw that you were earning money, playing in the theater, you were in perfect order, the second betrayal , in my opinion, is a betrayal of its own kind, because in order, apparently. It seemed to mr. Bely to achieve Great Results in our country, he abandoned his real surname, the surnames of his relatives, parents, grandfathers, grandmothers, grandmothers, greatgrandmothers, the surname weissman, he became white, and so just recently, on tour to israel, he had to go to the lencon theater, a wonderful performance, delivered back in the eightyninth year, mark zakharov, a jew, by the way, according to the stories of the famous jewish writer sholomaleihom, tavye the milkman, performance, funeral prayer, pelser also played there , sasha abdulov and lionov played there, the performance was restored, now the main role is played by a wonderful artist, with whom i i love it very much and am happy to work, having already lost stepanchenko, this is a play about a jewish shtetl, about pogroms, about hardship. The fate of a jewish family at a certain time. So, anatoly vaisman writes a denunciation that sounds like this they want to bring them on tour to play a performance of a memorial prayer, read speculation on a jewish theme, on the stage of the gabbima theater. Blasphemy. Dear israelis, with experience, can you explain to me what this is . The producers decided for themselves that day. They dont smell like blood, and most importantly, how to make sure that this shame doesnt happen, im waiting for constructive answers and appropriate actions. After that , all sorts of threats were sent to the artists and the tour had to be canceled, why do you think, why did anatoly vaisman do it, why did he do it everything for a wonderful performance staged by a wonderful director, a jew, i repeat, based on the wonderful work of the great writer sholomaleichom. The monument to which there is a plaque here, why did he not want this play about the jewish people to be shown in israel, because he doesnt care about these people, because he understands exactly that when this play comes to israel and will enjoy a gigantic resounding success , the level of weissman himself. He will turn out to be below the plinth, because what he threw away, what he will reject from himself, will come to israel and prove that this is a great russian culture, of the highest class, which is unworthy, a man who betrayed his homeland, his family, instead of helping his people today. see high art, mr. Weissman is doing everything to ensure this it wasnt, because the biggest sin lives in him, envy and fear that they will see who you really are, having lost everything in russia, mr. Weissman does not want israel. The viewer to see what he really lost, doesnt it look like weismans betrayal of his people, to the betrayal of another person of his people, who holds the post of president of ukraine , who in the same way betrayed his grandfather, who fought against nazism, who, no doubt, betrayed his benefactor, and the same jew who made him, made him an artist and president. Calmly, with a click, i gave it away as a gift to please another owner, although quite recently, in this way, i congratulated him on his birthday, dear igor valerievich, with great pleasure, to be honest, we congratulate you, but in general, i wish you everything what the guys said, and friends, time and health and children, grandchildren, in general, i wish you next year that everything will be as it should be. And believe me, im not defending kolomoisky, absolutely, no, everything about him is clear, im talking about Something Else, im talking about the ease with which people part with their conscience, with a sense of gratitude, with a sense of duty, the attitude towards this corruption is fantastically varied, look, for example, how the poetwriter dmitry bykov, who became bykkov, defines corruption in ukraine after just like weissman, he refused to be a labor, so listen. The fact that there is corruption in ukraine, this shows to a certain extent that the country is alive, inventive, by the way, more inventive corruption, in my opinion, is not found anywhere in the world, dont you think that the fight against it is pointless, but how pointless is the fight against ukrainian black humor, i dont know, but with any national traits, that is , in other words, this is an inevitable evil, the inevitable reverse side of the most positive ukrainian qualities, look how amazing it turns out. The jew kolomoisky, the jew zelsky is trying to punish for corruption, at the same time, the jew zelbiltrud, who also left our homeland, explains that corruption in ukraine is a most charming thing, because this, in fact, is the essence of the ukrainian people, that is, kolomoiskys jews punish the virtue of the ukrainian people, normal and. I want to ask a question, in connection with all this, with the linkoma theater , with the cancellation of tours, with corruption, with the arrest of kolomoisky, with weissmans denunciation, the jewish people experienced one of the most tragic stories of peoples, oppressed , persecuted, the quintessence of what happened to the jewish people, this is the ghetto, this is fascism, this is the nazi , this is bullying, executions, burning in ovens, pulling out gold teeth, drinking rubbish from the cats of jews, here you are, who are all survived this, who after this had the strength to become a country, who found the strength to find and continue to look for those who are to blame for your torment, for what they did to you, no matter how they changed passports, continents, histories, biographies, no matter how they do plastic surgery, you were able to find punish adolf ehmann, herbert cukurs, you continue to look for those who are to blame for the torment of your people, how. Today you can dance the hawa nagila together with the azov people, tattooed with hitler slogans and with a swastika. How can you communicate with people whose slogan is the words of tegnebok from their party declaration, remember . Damn jewish community. Pay attention to this, this Zionist Community is striving to ensure that the ukrainians disappear forever, the ukrainians are hostages, the jews. If the globalizing community leads their troops, then a real holocaust for jews will begin in ukraine. How can you kiss the chevron of a soldier of the azov regiment, as one of the hasidim did in uman, despite the fact that this azov soldier is the same. Decorated with the nazi symbol wolf hook, which served as the emblem of the nsdp. And how can you, due to the cowardly, dependent denunciation of a certain white vaisman, deny yourself the pleasure of enjoying a wonderful performance staged based on the wonderful work of your wonderful writer shalomkhov. Dont you see . How two things come together when they are alone they are ashamed to be russian, and others are afraid to be jews, how both are combined in one word, betrayal, and look how one is replaced by the other, look how unexpectedly the best quality of the people is called corruption, and. A vile, vulgar denunciation turns into a sincere , a very hardwon sense of justice and the desire for this justice to triumph, look how what is happening is defamed, how it is turned upside down, listen to what my weakness says, this is the blond witch, ursula fonderlein. Listen to an excerpt from her speech. You invited us to your homeland, to the city of kherasim, the place where your roots are, a place that in many ways determined your entire life and career. Many of your loved ones died on the day the atomic bomb razed gerossima to the ground. You grew up hearing the stories of survivors. And you. Wanted to share them with us, wanted to open our eyes to the past in order to learn lessons for the future. This trip provided a sobering start to the gji summit, which i will never forget, especially now that russia is threatening to use Nuclear Weapons again. Weapon. Imagine what she just said. It would have been said 30 years ago that it happened in hiroshima , that it was terrible, and that today it could happen again, because russia again, listen, again threatens to use Nuclear Weapons, bitch, there is no other word, just this a small word gives opportunity to millions again. Semiliterate people who do not know history and are not interested in understanding that this bomb was also dropped the first time by russia, the soviet union. And not a word about the United States, and not a word about the pilot paul tibet, who on august 6, 1945 unfastened the atomic bomb, a baby from the belly of his plane, not a word, and this is what our president today calls an empire of lies, global lies. And this lie works from the most naive to the most sinister level, ill give you an example , so harmless , so far, we know that this is some kind of action where experts, smart people gather, who very carefully watch how it develops fashion, they see those suits and those clothes that no one will ever see either in the subway or in a trolleybus, not even in. A taxi, they evaluate it, they talk, everyone has their own opinion, it is scientific in nature and they dont even understand that being in this state of selfawareness, of actual significance, they can be like this just, just like that, click on the nose to tell them that you are just dunces, because the witty funny pranker took, put on a swimming cap, covered himself with a piece of plastic and walked along the catwalk, wobbling his ass, everyone was carefully watching this new phenomenon in the world of fashion, they recorded their opinion, they talked over each other, and it turned out that the only expert in all this, in all of fashion, is the Security Guard , who realized that this was a mess, just jumped out onto this podium and tied up this poor guy, and if it only concerned fashion, but this. All aspects of our life, just life, this applies to war , peace, natural disasters, famine, revolution and so on and so on, our sworn friend, the brilliant churchi, once said, the difference between a statesman and a politician is that policy oriented the next election, and the statesman, the next generation. And this is a mess, it confuses people once or twice, zelensky is declared the person of the year, the most influential politician in the world, his photographs are printed on the covers of the most famous and bestselling magazines, and he is convinced that this is so, although in fact at any second he it may turn out that he cant even imagine where. They did the same thing with gorbachev, when he became a man of peace, when he received the nobev prize, he broke the berlin wall, betraying, simply throwing his entire the eastern camp we were in for our own sense of significance. And in the same way, the first person in the world, with one click, turns out to be an advertiser for pizza hut, look. This is gorbachev, it is because of him that our economy is a mess, yes, thanks to him we have new opportunities, it is because of him that we have political instability, and thanks to him we have freedom. Complete chaos, prospects, political instability, and thanks to him, we have pisohat, for gorbachev, for gorbachev, for gorbachev. We talked a lot today about the fake, and i i want to show you the real thing about this guy, this is a russian guy, alexey, look, he was evacuating the wounded , a grenade was thrown from a drone, he was the only one with a bulletproof vest, he covered both guys, the grenade exploded, he survived, but he was seriously injured legs, there was only one tourniquet with which he was able to bandage himself, he lost consciousness, a guy from. A neighboring unit found him, dragged him almost 5 km to the hospital and asked him only one thing, that he speak, that he not fell asleep so he wouldnt lose consciousness, alexei said, he read from. His poems, our soldiers cannot be broken or hit , autumn, summer, spring, it will show, here is successful, cut, where is our eagle, there is our nut, where is your money, there are our exploits , victories, billions will not help to gain the status of a legend, it cannot buy history and world recognition, it will not replace the yellowblue rag, the russian red flag, we believe in ourselves, our country, everything is going great, and i always prefer red to the yellowblue color, we rise the banner higher and higher to see our victory, not we need to rise on the roof, we are the warriors of god, we are the groans of god, we are dying, and no matter what happens, we always win, we will not die, because we never die, if something goes wrong, if we get hurt, because the blood of red runs in our veins colors, our creed is unconditional, always victory, no one has yet been able to outwit a bullet, brother, but this does not mean that we cannot, because you and i are together, we are warriors. We destroy, we destroy all enemies forward for hundreds of years, because neither who does not have victories like ours, he read his poems to stay alive, and he survived, thanks to the truth, the truth of how his comrade acted, the truth of those poems that he wrote, i understand that for some this is as indifferent as 8 years of bombing of donbass, but the truth will force. Oneself to Pay Attention, but for now mishchen krivoruchka didnt come, i want to remember one wonderful episode from the wonderful film by boris barnet, the feat of a scout, where the scout was played by the amazing pavel kadochnikov. Lets remember this episode. For victory. For our victory, while the military operation is going on , before midshipman krivoruchka comes, i want repeat. Words of Pavel Petrovich kadashnikov and invite you to drink to the victory, to our victory, oh, crooked hand, did it come on time . But weve already had a drink, he said, thats why were leaving one at a time, if anything happens, were geologists, im looking forward to seeing you, god willing, at our new meeting, all the best. We live in an absolutely amazing world, which sometimes makes your hair stand on end, you think you should have been born a goop fish, not remember anything, but if you dont know anything, dont think about anything, perceive every day as, oh, the sun, ideal , here to unfortunately, education is a big hindrance, of course, it helps us to come to this blissful dementia, which biden has reached with age, we all still have to work and work on this, the internet helps a lot, there is this one, arkady volush, arkady volosh, he himself positions this way, arkady from kazakhstan. Israeli technical entrepreneur, born in kazakhstan , scientist, computer scientist, investor, philanthropist and so on, here is arkady volush, he is the creator of yandex, an absolutely wonderful structure, yandex, today the guys suddenly decided look, what is yandex even about . They type into yandex, for example, bandera, they get stepan bandera, a ukrainian politician, so what about him . European can you say . Excuse me, its written in german, what can you say, it doesnt matter to me, you can say anything, you can say, you can say that yandex is degenerates, scum, neonazi bastards, you can say a lot, you can say, im lying in israel, whatever you think about it, in which adolf hitler became a german politician, you can say a lot, you just stuff it, and he gives you, for example, dmitry utkin, pmc wagner, it turns out hes a russian neonazi, wow, yes, this is strong, yes. It turns out they know the word nazis, but in relation to bandera or hitler, this does not apply , so the israeli investor, mr. Volash, born in kazakhstan, can be proud of himself, he can be proud of himself, hes a truly amazing person, in fact the internet remembers everything, but sometimes helpfully slips it in and also not quite. Accurately and most importantly , manipulation is easy, well, look, the presenter working on our channel dmitry sheppelev, yes, he wrote on the 24th out of emotion, while taking his child to school, he wrote extremely emotionally, after that he did not run anywhere, he was here, he did not perform. I took him by the hand, put him on the plane, brought him to rostov, from rostov he went to the land of donetsk, he didnt tell people , he listened silently, he came to mariupol, he looked at everything, he understood everything, at least i hope a lot, immediately after this happened, dmitry andreevichev. Appeared on the list of peacekeepers at the moment the peacemaker immediately he was sentenced to death because he visited the dpr, because he expressed his position, he realized his mistakes, active repentance, if you like. Im not talking about whether he listed our armies, he helped our people, this is his personal matter, he wants to say, this is active repentance. Ukrainians are very carefully monitoring what is happening, including with their former citizens, here is karolina miroslavna kuyok, aka annilog, a person subject, according to the ukrainians , to immediate detention, from april 23 , 2023, she is included in the list of peacekeepers, with in this case, they are working very actively against the flock, tsupso threw in everything, money transfers, allegedly. To the aid of an ied, the shells are signed from him, why . But because its scary for them, for their propaganda, its a colossal blow that a popular ukrainian performer came to russia, is in russia, and her family is there, she supports russia, so of course, they are trying in every possible way to discredit her, and sometimes its very difficult to check its difficult, it takes special effort to oppose the chickso, and most importantly, well, i think theres no people who claim holiness, especially those who have read the scriptures, especially the new testament, i just want to remind you that, after all , there is not an indulgence, when you can pay off sin, but an active race, and that you have made a mistake, you always have the opportunity to prove through actions the sincerity of ones. Awareness, and then, well, why, why, our people know how to forgive, whats interesting is that this nazi theme is heard with all its might in ukraine, europe doesnt want to hear it, but canada suddenly heard it, look which dissonance, just regulating, this is such a constant dissonance, what the exambassador of ukraine to the United States, valeriy chala, says, listen, canada with all the rights, suddenly everyone decided that something was wrong, and why did they decide . Who pushed this process, who raised this issue, how it all unfolded, i really dont like the consequences, all these apologies that came from canadian officials, i will return his contributions. Which he did in the development of ukrainian studios, that is, if you say that this person committed a crime, then you need court. Or dont engage in such harassment out of the blue, and if you finally invited, then dont embarrass yourself, its a very strange story, ukraine needs to react to this, i came across this in washington in the usa, when the azov regiment was called nazis, it was a purposeful an antiukrainian campaign run by the russians. I dont know if they are fsb agents or not, but they are russian intelligence agents, and one of them is in prison. Everything in this story is very similar, without facts i cant prove it. This degenerate is joined by a witch, exdetacht of the supreme we are glad, member of the cpsu, irina forion, that the period of the Second World War is the exceptional heroism of the ukrainian nation, because during the Second World War, formations, one is called the ukrainian insurgent army, the Second Division of the sss galicia. By the way, in the minds of ukrainians they perceived the sss as sich riflemen, because it was a continuation of their struggle during the first world war, and here there was the Second World War. The episode that took place in the parliament. And the completely unmotivated and senseless resignation of the speaker, this indicates that that the historical truth has lost on a global scale, because at the request of one of the Jewish Organizations, the speaker of parliament resigned, under what article, does he not know ukrainian history, does he not know that the Galicia Division was created for a single purpose, and about it was the speaker of parliament who said and announced that we have a person in our hall who fought the bolsheviks in a certain structure, so this is a colossal defeat for this person personally, a concession to absolutely inappropriate structures that they present to the world their distorted, false and perverted optics of our historical truth. For some reason, the former minister of justice of canada was not satisfied with the historical truth, their historical truth. In general, its interesting that as soon as a person becomes an ex in these countries, his brains immediately come into place, that is, the feeling that while performing a state duty, politics the g7 countries put their brains in a safe, and when they are fired, they return the brains to their place, thats what this irwin boiler with the returned brains said. What was your initial reaction when you heard what happened in the house of commons last week . You know, everyone was concerned about the fact that the speaker recognized him as a canadian hero, a ukrainian hero, but to me the important question that was ignored is how did he end up in canada in the first place and was not held accountable when he i was in canada, this is a big question for our continuing one. After the Second World War , it was easier to get into canada if you were a nazi than if you were a jew. And as soon as they ended up here, no one was brought to justice, so it was a failure of indifference and inaction by successive canadian governments that resulted in us becoming a nazi safe haven. They dont want to see nazism in ukraine, its not enough that the bastard zelsky went to shed a tear for the woman to the world, although he didnt say who did the shooting and didnt Pay Attention, in order to get to the woman, he must drive through the streets that are named after the executioners. Who drove jews, russians, ukrainians to the place of mass death, and shot them ukranazis, but under the command of the germans. But zelsky had the sense literally on the same day, if not the next , to hand over the banners, and one of them proudly went to the unit that would bear the name, or the territory bears the name of kanavaltsa, who did not hide his personal, well, if one can say, friendship with hitler, and was proud of it, an absolute nazi, nothing in this surprised zelsky, surprised him. True , polish and jewish fighters against nazism, Many Organizations expressed protest, but not, not zelensky personally, it was said about zelensky personally poles, that well, how is it possible, how is it possible that he himself was framed, yes, that he was framed, but he didnt know anything, what do you want, hes just a cretin who doesnt know history, including his family, but here canada is indignant, canada, but not ukraine, ukraine is not allowed. But how history repeats itself, yes, the dream of the predecessors in barel, when the Blue Division stood near leningrad, and now barel joyfully comes to odessa shouting that we cannot be intimidated by russian missiles with a drone, because no one needs shit, why bother . To waste a rocket on you, do you think that you came there for this reason, now there will be a blow, or what . Who needs you . To find land for the aryan race to inhabit in the east, adolfel gruber, born in austria. If anyone has forgotten, but those who later accepted german citizenship, if anyone has forgotten, and became the fuhrer of the german nation, the executioner, he was also on the territory of modern ukraine, of course, so Annalena Berbock and barel are not the first politicians who happily think that they united europe and ukraine, well , hitler did. Than this fool, he was before stalingrad, lugansk wasnt enough for him, he wanted to get further away, and the fate of this fool will be the same as hitlers, thats not enough, given current morals, maybe shell have her eva braun, i dont care anymore i wont be surprised, oh , times, morals, but we remember, and we will not allow any european. Forget that their grandfathers and greatgrandfathers are guilty of the death of 27 millions of soviet people. Barel, berbock, scholz, mikron, all this bastard, should know that we will not forget any of them and will never forgive, never, not the ukrainian nazis, not you, their masters, but the eternal desire of europe to destroy russia, well, thats it is known that European Countries regularly get together once a century to hit their wellgroomed faces with a russian boot. Vitalich, well , ill start with what you dedicated your introduction to. That means, regarding yandex and others, because they firmly believed that the main thing this is hardware, programs, and then everything will be applied, as if objective information will accumulate by itself, Neural Networks will choose from the most objective, from the truth to choose the truth, it turns out that this is the age of artificial intelligence, yandex and other googles, personnel decides everything, thats who you put in prison . For this car, he will give out the relevant information, but i have a question, besides yandex, there is some kind of Search Engine in russia, but where did it go . He is not a Search Engine, but he is, there is, another, he just lives, when i say gone, i mean, i went there myself i began to exhibit my own, then something was all there, not rutube, rutube really works , there, another thing, thats the question, but slowly, slowly, slowly, where is there a hurry, where, not in a hurry anywhere, thats what i mean, they said, before, soviet microcircuits, the largest microcircuits in the world, yes, but russian , then the site did not respond 2 weeks ago at the university , we are going to finally six months ago or a year ago, we instructed Moscow University to create this russian electronic library, but before that then someone received the money, they spent it somewhere, they disappeared somewhere, slowly, slowly, sometimes it seems that you really need to put a couple of Army Commanders in charge of im ready, now youre ready, at the head of the military troops there, that means, relatively, this is generally funny, a truly great power. And by the way, they stick it out to us, and you yourself are to blame, regarding this canadian history , i would like to say a lot, now naturally the right things were said, i would like to draw attention to one moment, which in my opinion, well, i havent heard that him especially emphasized, because this speaker of the Canadian Parliament is not crazy, its unlikely that he created a platform for his resignation, that s what before, i dont know how much hes influenced there, what hes under, but it seems to me that at least from dad he knew about , here is the corresponding story, how many of these ukrainian nationalists canada hosted there, but there was complete confidence that no one would notice, that is, but it was said that he fought against the russians, this will cover everything, and unexpectedly there was, and the parliament became applaud. Thats how it all went, according to reasons, who was first, polish or jewish, fighters for justice, relatively true about the Second World War, they did it, our ambassador, by the way, also worked very actively right away, well done, very good in canada, alas, despite our protest, no matter less, he did everything that was required on his part, it turned out that it turns out that not everyone s brains were completely fooled, that it is still possible to break through. To this historical truth, albeit in such a scandalous version, when everything begins to collapse, but thats now this swamp will be sucked in again, it will cover, after some time, a new speaker has apparently already been appointed, what i mean is that every day you need to fight with your own strength for this, and we fight little, what we havent done yet, thats almost everyone. Not in our newspapers now there are documentary films on television, where everything is listed that the soviet union, the socalled young anthropist pact , that is, in my opinion it was called the treaty of friendship and borders, thats what it was called, signed by the last one, not an attack, friendship and border, well ok there, its about the same thing, i mean, its not that important. Here is the last of all the European Countries that signed this with hitler, just the other day yesterday, or something, i saw on russia1, a film corresponding to this, dedicated to this, in particular dedicated to this, the question and the Russian Parliament withdrew the official characterization of the soviet parliament, and he is the successor to the pact of molta. Pentope as some kind of criminal . No, the soviet parliament did not accept this, its like molotovs pack of libanthropes was condemned, the soviet peoples deputies had, but this is not parliament, this was the soviet parliament, but what do i have, is it already soviet or even russian . This congress is still a soviet soviet congress, the congress of peoples deputies of the ussr, this is a parliament, but it is complexly constructed, that the council was more than a parliament. No, well, in any case , officially, russia, which is the legal successor and the state duma in this sense, we are still repealing some soviet laws or confirming them there. Did not revoke this characterization by its main legislative body of the molotov pact damentropa, so why are you offended, secondly, stalin , a sacramental question, i did not understand the logic, forgive me, well, if we ourselves, our country, recognized the pact of moltovatropa as erroneous and even in my opinion, there is a rigid formation there criminal, then why what complaints to everyone else. Firstly, the decision of the Supreme Council is not a binding document for the entire country, yeah, how is it so simple, this is a different status, this is their statement, there was a resolution, this is a resolution, this time, adding, of course, interesting logic, then there are, like, so others, they are not my bosses at all, why should this influence , for example, my position, but im not talking about your position, the state position, why should this influence, because the Supreme Council . We are divided, excuse me, we have separation of powers, but the Supreme Council decided this, we had a president ial decree , we have some kind of law talking about this, but you never know what these parliamentarians came up with for themselves, they passed the law, no , resolution, they adopted a certain resolution, they are these resolutions they accept as much as you want, we even have a law about persecuting a swarm of bees, and what is the reaction to all this, or what . This is not a law, this is a resolution, a law and. Laws are not adopted for such reasons. The tenth ninth is an official document of the party of which the Russian Federation is the legal successor. The official you know, we had so many laws passed in that country, now it invites them all to follow all the regulations that have not been repealed or were you sparring with me, are you asking everyone to shut up now because that the idiots in 1989 adopted some kind of resolution, thats why its here. Cancel that resolution of the Supreme Council of the union of soviet socialist republics, thats all, and if she didnt do it, then theres nothing. When others say that you and hitler signed a disgusting act , because of which the whole of europe ended up in the Second World War, absolutely vicious logic that has no relation, the Foreign Policy of the state is not dealt with by the state duma, but by the president and the ministry of Foreign Affairs affairs, therefore, statements about the Foreign Policy discourse there are certainly not the prerogatives of the state duma, and does not mean that the rest, including the president , ministers. Affairs should not be said, no, well, we have a duma, so by the way, our laws are passed by the state, by the way, our laws are signed and come into force after being signed by the president of the Russian Federation, but they come into force only by the president , what valid between, when no, legal come into force only after signature by the president and publication of official sources, i can continue, well, the law also applies. You can, you can, you yourself contributed, still unmentioned, it was on may 9 that they didnt mention him, officially, in no way, maybe we will appear, finally, because of this he is equated with hitler, they say, well, you yourself about you say it like dictators, maybe we will accept the chinese formula, 70 right, 30 wrong. And then show me a major politician who is 99 right, uh, third, and where we ourselves equate him with hitler, we have separately passed a law, which for this they equate with hitler, i say that on the ninth of may, in not a single official speech on red square, on the occasion of victory day, the end of the great patriotic war, stalin was not mentioned as the supreme commander, er, as the head of the soviet state and in general as uh by surname, first name and patronymic they take advantage of this, according to the history of the pharaohs, we have stalin condemned, no , i say that he needs to be mentioned, but you say there is some difference between mentioning, putin mentioned several times by may 9, and the supreme commanderinchief stalin, and the name of stalin. Yes, let me finish this, well, yakov iyovich , ill tell you, he also advocated for this many times, the next thing needs to be stopped, im speaking out, ill speak out, thats right, well , apparently youre also speaking out of nowhere, it turns out theres no problem, we need to stop all criticism of the soviet union, i would say this, for the next 10 years stop all criticism of the soviet union, there were problems there, gorbachev, as an exception, that is, what does it mean now that khruchevs cudgel, who acquitted bandera, was also not brought out criticize, so well, you treat everything the way you like . What is the soviet leader or not . No, well, or should i forget stalins repressions against the clergy, even to all sorts of excuses, forget too, its possible, you can be renewed, but why the renovationist, the soviet union, well, this is the soviet union, everything is against our intelligentsia, its clear that i mean, well , its clear that you dont want to, dont understand, right . Uh, just finish, let me, at least soon, they gave the floor and invited me to this program, whats the big deal, we didnt invite you to a lecture, this is a discussion club, but ill just say a phrase, it starts right there, farion without interrupting, see what bright phrases you say, farion didnt interrupt, stop criticizing the soviet union, it s obvious what i mean for 10 years, in 10 years can be resolved again, and generally no longer talk about our past. About our future, everyone is asking this question, i will not give here, now there are no recipes, this is a separate interesting topic, and the last thing i wanted to say regarding our future is one of the pressing questions that awaits an answer the population, society, our country in some places is turning into an island of lampedusa. We need to radically and quickly change migration policy, radically and quickly, if someone disagrees with me, there is Sergei Mikheev , who also says this, as a rule, they dont argue with him in this sense, thank you, about lampedusa, not arguing does not mean that they like, regarding lampedusa, not only to change migration policy, but to realize that now in the current funding structure, the ministry of internal affairs of the Delhi Federation is not capable, even if desired, to perform the functions that are necessary for these structures to work, just look at the salaries of the guys, you cant find a person now who will go to work for the chestkovs, these are crazy problems, so of course, on the one hand, they need to look at who we bring, on the other hand, to look at how they behave here, this is a very big problem, just like im talking to the guys from the National Guard there. They say well , we have had good relations for many years, that is, we are all for our homeland, we understand everything, but we have salaries and the salaries are such that its good if the wives work, not like in the army, they are significantly lower, and the tasks that the guys solve are very important, also associated with a colossal risk for those fighting, they solve them on the territory, but we need to pull everyone else up, otherwise we we will lose everything inside the country, well, now it often happens there, they take internal Affairs Officers for bribes in batches, there 500 rubles, 1000 rubles. You start asking what his salary is, but its awkward to say. Does this mean that there is no justification for those taken, but if we want people to feel right in tomorrow, we probably need to think about how we pay them, what kind of social package, that is, this is such a complex problem, that is, it needs to be looked at broadly and solved, we need to think about it, by the way, in 1990 there was a statement by the Russian Foreign Ministry Federation regarding the ribentrop hammer pact , thanks to the sovietgerman war began, for the ussr, on the borders of the ussr, the population of this territory was subjected to nazi terror 2 years later, hundreds of lives were saved, so Government Agencies regularly made statements meade does not overturn the decision of parliament and does not it rank higher in matters of Foreign Policy . Of course not, of course yes, because this is the ministry of Foreign Affairs of a modern state, and the statement of the parliament of a state that does not exist , by the way, the soviet union was a parliamentary republic there in general, when it was a soviet republic, now it tells anyone when it was. Or what, the soviet union was written as a union of soviet governance , not the president , the highest body of power was the parliament, this is the parliament lenin denied the parliamentary lenin, his principles already lay whoa, it was like a meeting of electors , you understand, you have now made a parliament out of the Supreme Council, that is, you took it and simply destroyed it, it was of a state type. The structure of a parliamentary republic, practically no one takes this, because the general seiks were the first persons, this does not mean that brezhny had a problem for him , why brezhnev became a representative of the supreme president ial council, because in the protocol it arose that the general secretary was coming, and he needs to be understood as the head of state of the country then who ruled, if this parliamentary republic, who ruled the country . Who was governed by the politburo then it is that the politburo is a nonstate body at all, it wasnt even spelled out in the constitution governed governed the soviet union who was officially the Supreme Council no no no the Supreme Council the parliament that formed the government the council of ministers, what are you , well, someone ruled the country, tell me fairy tales, now come to brezhnev and tell him who ruled the country, its better if you come to him, we will all come to him someday, there is no doubt, to stalin too, but the question is different, the question is fundamentally important, well, what can you come up with now, now the children will look at this and say, the soviet union was parliamentary, they still say that the molten bentrop pack is a disgusting thing, the highest the body is the Supreme Council, a constantly functioning legislative, administrative and control body, thats what im talking about, the Supreme Council is not a parliament, thats the point in general, you have to understand, you have to generally understand what the point is, if you call two different phenomena in one word, or two words one one and the same phenomenon, once again, the soviet union was a parliamentary republic, once again , this is an absolute bourgeois heresy, and from a person who demands that they talk about stalin, now immediately demands that they repeat this bourgeois nonsense, i will not allow it as a communist , bourgeois yes. A real state of workers and peasants, if you listened to us young people, look , the fate of the soviet socialist union would have turned out differently, you wont support gorbachev, after you he supported no, long before me, im a gorbava i have always not supported and, by the way, i would also like to in this regard. The Paris Commune is also a parliamentary one. Its not enough that you suggest that the russian person follow the path of alien Political Technology terms parliament, lets parlary what do you have and what is duma this is not a russian word , wait a minute duma this is not a russian Word Assembly and that assembly is not a russian word one of the few that it is essentially essentially in essence in essence , for you, a bourgeois is just a head of state, this does not mean a person who has the supreme executive power of the executive power possessed by the government and the chairman of the government the head of the executive real formally really not important he said that the soviet union cannot be a parliamentary republic, lenin denied bourgeois parliamentarians, because, unlike some, we are quite familiar with the creative heritage of our leaders, well, such a heated discussion, and on such a relevant topic. About lampadosis, you know my position, yes, well , its just good not to interrupt in the middle. 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Well, vitelei, you know very well my position on lampeduzas, as it were, and immigration policy, i havent changed it for many, many, many years, i think that we dont have a clear migration policy that meets the interests of the country, or at least not enough, but its impossible to talk about this every show, so ill kind of start from a simple heated discussion, very relevant, that took place here in the previous part, regarding the soviet legacy and so on, so on, well, im not. The blessing of the soviet system, however, one cannot help but admit, of course, that the soviet union is a completely unique project, and it had enormous amazing achievements beyond any doubt, like however, they are also stunning failures, one of which actually ended his story, but your proposal, as if clear in meaning, is unacceptable in form, but you say, it is necessary to abolish any criticism of the soviet union for 10 years, here it is necessary or very seriously explain there and, so to speak, lay it all out, because any criticism of the soviet union will quickly lead to a dead end, because there will be so many arguments, yes, that will simply bury all these things, with which i am ready to agree, with the fact that any suicidal and selfdestructive theories and systems of argumentation, so to speak, of the country should undoubtedly be subject to. Well, at least revision, and at maximum, maybe banned somewhere, yes, and the question is not about lying to each other about something how good everything was, the question is not, so to speak, to, for example, hide real shortcomings and not to justify absolutely obviously negative things , so to speak, but to develop, it seems to me, by the way, it is developed, well, by life, to develop an objective approach to achievements, so to speak, and failures, mistakes of the soviet union, in order to apply and develop achievements, and avoid failures, as if to take into account. So to speak, yes in your policy and so on and so forth, but there may really be awareness soviet history requires a more systematic correction, without its idealization and without its demonization, i agree here, but take it and cancel it, as if this is your slogan right now, so to speak, its just that we ve been living in different realities for a little bit now for a year and a half, but immediately they will pull out your slogan, lets say, they will start to hit everyone on the head with this slogan, you know, yes, this is pure propaganda, as it were, yes, which will work against us, by the way, regarding propaganda, as if slogans, Everything Else , very important about Search Engines, the internet and Everything Else, yes, you need to realize a little that our Public Opinion , especially among young people, is really shaped by internet Search Engines to a large extent, and not just spontaneously, including thanks about our school, middle school, elementary school, high school, high school, as it were, yes, so to speak, everyone who has children of school age or have recently been of school age knows everything very well, yes students, everyone knows perfectly well how it is now teacher. In schools say find this on the internet , take this presentation, so to speak, from the internet, look for this data for your report, look on the internet, and for your seminar, so to speak, yes, find it on this internet, and what he will find there, this is a question especially with regard to historical topics, humanitarian , as it were cultural, everyone else, until unfortunately, no matter how we have worked with this in my opinion, but there are some to say that norms are being introduced, but nevertheless they are required. Also here rethinking, stricter control, not from the point of view of Closing Everything and that means caulking it up, so to speak, but at least all the political, historical connotations, so to speak, must be adjusted, because what you showed vladimir at the beginning of the program is not just unacceptable, this is monstrous, this is miraculous, it seems to me that even hitler himself, so to speak, was offended there in the next world, when utkin is called a neonazi, so to speak, yes, and hitler is simply a politician, this is monstrous, because this is an absolutely conscious reversal of emphasis, distortion. This is called a historical lie, this is how historical lies are formed, supposedly russian Search Engines, in fact, as if in disguise, correct these things, i dont know how this happens, whether it is, whether there are special people sitting there, so to speak, and therefore compiling similar means a list of accents, which are necessary, which are not necessary, or is the Program Setting it up like this, let the relevant , so to speak, competent authorities understand this, but it is clear that the authorities have no time for this, its bad, because it is necessary, so that there is. By the way, but nevertheless, listen, this environment in which tens of millions of people live, it is simply not just overflowing with this, it is permeated with it from top to bottom, so to speak, yes, it is permeated from top to bottom, as a system, this system requires, requires change, otherwise , no matter how much we talk here with you, as if yes, small, so to speak, our. Children, then growing up, as if teenagers, then students, they are still they will look for all this there, i decided to check us, i googled i checked, and the same thing, the same thing, germans of austrian origin, that is, they just transferred it, its like an absolutely american system, so to speak , yes, its clear, and i will never believe in its nonpartisanship, and so on and so forth further, these things need to be dealt with, very actively, because we can, you know, patch up the most obvious holes, you know , like the checkpoint, you know this. The military unit is nearby, as if all the holes are clogged, behind there, come on in, whoever wants, so to speak, the back, the rear, there on the side behind, as if the whole whole the fence is full of holes, yes, well, at the checkpoint, the boss arrived, everything was painted, it seemed normal , he arrived, had lunch, left, this approach here, in my opinion, is completely, completely unsuitable, uh, its extremely important to do this, and indeed, we joke here, we joke, but our efforts in this area are very slow, very ineffective, they seem to me, we underestimate these things, right . And so, well, really, so to speak, about money, well, money was allocated for this, some money for someone, yes, maybe not that kind, what they should be, but the point is that this is a task of primary importance, because this is education, so after that, you know, ask each other a question why dont our children know this, and why dont they think that where , you can say as much as you like that they are stupid, so to speak, and we were smart, but my friends, it s just a little unfair, they have no way to know this, imagine how, yes, in universities there, relatively speaking, in higher education, its like that means people taught them for years, which means history and the humanities were taught on the basis of the grants that they received from, as it were, distant organizations , on the internet they write things like this, and until recently it was even worse , by the way, there are very accents, so to speak , i think that they sit there on purpose appointed people, even in these Search Engines of ours, they place these accents, because these accents do not appear by themselves, or this is a tracing paper, again, from google there and from everyone else, they just take the tracing paper, so to speak, they are moving these bases here and there and all that stuff, about the last one, so to speak , about canada, but it really seems like its good that all this happened, yes its wonderful, questions from canadian politicians, yes they are this. The question of children , yes, but how did it happen that this wonderful, so to speak, grandfather lived and lived in our canada . Because, my friends , the american and your Intelligence Services have been systematically doing this since at least 1945, and maybe earlier, which means that everyone, as if collaborators, went to the usa and canada from europe were moved with the knowledge or with the direct support of the American Intelligence Services and the us cia, in particular, so to speak , there when it was not there, as it were, before. The predecessors of the cia, and then the us cia, they were involved there, why to canada, because there really was a fairly large historical ukrainian diaspora, firstly, and secondly, because it was quieter there, these centers, so to speak, of bandera ideology could be formed there, they were nurtured there all these decades, they seemed to be created there radio stations in ukrainian, literature was published there, so to speak, with american money these intellectual, as it were in quotes, ideological centers were created, and as soon as the soviet union began to shake. As soon as, and i kind of saw, i personally saw ukrainian nationalists at a rally in kiev until the ninetyfirst year, they were very active, you dont have to think that it was from the ninetyfirst year that they came out into the streets, not a damn thing like that, not a damn thing like that, so you can even ask , so to speak, those people who are there live, i its like a native muscovite, yes, they were very active in the second half of the eighties, as soon as perestroika began, they all immediately went crazy, and so as soon as this became possible, from canada first of all, yes, all this is crap, right block. Wagons began to be transported to ukraine, including they played one of the main roles, as it were, in what the ideology of postsoviet ukraine means, which was the chance that we gave them, in fact, yes, there was a chance to actually become relatively prosperous, a neutral country, but it didnt take advantage of this chance, so to speak, and its socalled elite turned out to be so stupid, cynical, as if sometimes, okay, i have different epithites, but that means for that, so as not to understand what a historical chance they missed, well, its precisely this ideological, as it were, and all the baggage from there from canada that was transferred to ukraine and became the foundation for modern ukrainian ideology, the last thing i want to say, as far as i understand, in canada this the incident occurred first reaction Jewish Organizations. Of course, im not a jew, but to be honest, i dont understand the position of Many International Jewish Organizations regarding what is happening in ukraine, i would like to say, listen, if you have any principles. Then regarding ukraine and what is happening there, you must have the same reaction, there must be the same reaction, otherwise its a lie, otherwise you have no principles, but there is Something Else, so im not a Jewish Organization, im just jewish, but i observed and spoke about the fact that in ukraine with first moment, im not talking about that, here are a number of people who have now left our country , jews by nationality, and who suddenly begin. Wringing their hands when you tell him, well, they say, no, stop it, you, well, you want to say, you havent seen what happened since 1914, but the blood of donbass, no, no, that changes the question, guys, are you sure that you are jews, well, just why did you go to israel, and there lets go because you feel the need to make the alley, do you want to defend your historical homeland with arms in hand . Or are you just lets go for the right of free movement, then you are those jews who serve mammon, and not him, think, boys, something is very wrong with you, well, the point is that if i didnt want to touch on this topic, but for example, in the American Government of the same roosevelt, despite the fact that the country was dominated, so to speak, by very widespread antisemitism, there were many jews, and it is no coincidence that henry morgen tau, the minister of finance, who, in fact, tried to implement the plan for the division of germany into two, highlighting separate zones and dividing into two states, only not eastern, western, but northern and southern, the famous margenthau plan, it never passed, in principle, and margenthau reproached him because he was against the germans, because he was a jew, thats all, as if justifying it that these antisemitic organizations were actively working in the United States, so to speak, and so yes. Therefore, when now the politics of memory, in my opinion, it should always have a state connotation, you know, when there were printed publications, when there was no internet, but the internet appeared in 1992, in fact. Not so long ago, it was in the life of our generation that it appeared, thats when there were printed publications, it existed in the soviet union, the main thing there was, yes, the grading of textbooks that were aimed at students, for everything, they were examined, there were people who did not only the authors, but also the people who were responsible for missing it, because the state really should care about how these events are interpreted, here is the example given with the thirtyninth year, he set it. It was just the desire of these deputies to do everything the other way around, to reconsider everything, no one paid attention to the fact that when this rebentrop molotov pact was adopted, the soviet union was already at war, it was already at war in the far east, and between by the way, the war is over, the conflict on khalkingol, it ended on september 16 , precisely because they signed, signed this act, it was signed, and the japanese government decided not to continue, this was one of the factors that we did not have to not fight on two fronts, but then its not was taken into account, everything that was white became black, everything that was black became white, remember, this is a hobby, and the white guard is very serious, that they fought, and what the foreigners did in relation to us, the state is everything , was done, everything took on a different sign, from a minus to a plus it turned the other way around, so the politics of memory, about how this process occurs, it is very important, so it is no coincidence, so i welcome the fact that i am not against what we are now we dont Pay Attention to this, we do, at least now theyve released a single one for russian history textbook, this is already important, yes, of course, now you have seen this picture , when yakovich kedmi sits in our studio before the start of the broadcast in the loudspeaker, carefully reads the textbook, and it is clear that i like something in this textbook, this is a good sign, really, i liked some of the textbooks, but did you like it . Such a High School History textbook . I looked a little compared to what it was, this is a step forward, you see, a little is already good, i didnt delve deeply into it, so with those networks, so i tried twice in my life, i tried to correct wikipedia articles there, nothing worked, so it didnt work, just now when i showed this example, this is an example, it wasnt by chance that i went to google, it was just taken from there stupid. Moved here, so cleverly moved here, well, maybe, maybe cleverly , lets assume that it was done there purposefully, its just already written in google, this is solid, absolutely, i didnt look how it was there utkin is interpreted in google, also interesting, but there this about hitler was moved here, it is not even written that he is the fifteenth chancellor of germany, and so on, right away, yes, there is further, however, that he is the founder of national socialism. But nevertheless, that this is a war criminal and the biggest, major miracle, i dont take the ancient world, but in modern history, in modern history, this is the bloodiest, at least dictator, its not written, no, google according to utkin, it gives a Russian Military military, yes russian, which means yandex is more advanced, more russian, yandex means that yes, a lifegiving miracle is being done by an israeli investor born in kazakhstan. This is irony vitaly irony American Google turned out to be more balanced than the supposedly russian yandex, then everything became clear, the fact is that some people, this is not yandex, these are people writing articles, well, you need to see who composes them there, here this is a very very important question, in fairness its not about articles, but about quick sublines, perhaps, perhaps, in any case, it seems to me that releasing it like this is just something to give purely private, private companies, not without regulating this process, i think that at present it is necessary to do this, i think that this would be wrong, state regulation, it is one way or another in the west and it should be here, but i would still like to draw attention to what is happening now it happened, or rather on monday, in kiev, but i really dont understand one thing, this is what signal we want to send to the west, talking about what is it guys, come to kiev, whoever you want there, then come, no, i think that there is a bank, which should be, there is a whole row of buildings there, the ministry of defense, they call the office of the president , yes, the president ial office, the office, this is it, well, how should it be applied hit. I agree 100 , only i would take one more step, i would, well, they directly say that they stand behind ukraine, that they provide unprecedented support, yeah. I would recognize them as a party to the conflict, based on which i would say that their leaders are a legitimate target, so am i and so i think that those who come to ukraine, in general, just officially declare so that they understand that then they become a legitimate military target, at least there is no border, that no one guarantees their security, at least, here i am i dont think that if, so to speak , a blow had been struck and some highranking european politician had died, it would have been an incident, yes, because its like , so to speak, they are not a party to the conflict, it was an accident, which in which he ended up in the svo zone, which, strictly speaking, warned several times that they provide free weapons for attacks on the territory, which the constitution is written as russian, in my opinion this has already been an incident , the provision can be interpreted in different ways, it can be interpreted as an incident white, indeed, but our government, at the moment they are interpreting it as an incident on the nord streams , well, we didnt even officially say who did it correctly , we didnt even officially say that this incident was shot down, we not only didnt say who it was, we didnt react to it at all, we didnt even impose sanctions great, but we didnt even impose sanctions, we say yes, we know its you, but we didnt do anything, didnt blow up in response , didnt show action, intimidated, we didnt do anything , well, its not clear what were waiting for, i dont know what it is , well, we can probably do it there uh, like this, like this, uh, we can, like this, uhhuh, and i would let the little horse in, well, who knows, maybe he s already there, we would have already, we would have already found out, hes just waiting, waiting for his an hour, a year has been waiting, a year has passed, at least what happened in kiev, here is a meeting, just this is a political act, these political acts, we cannot allow now, especially considering that really all the support for this ukraine, well, now the american congress, it is clear that they will extend, it is clear that they will accept, well, for some there, so to speak, this funding was interrupted for a moment, and then we remember that on september 30th it ended, because the law that they adopted in may last year was in effect, and which was not in effect at all, and which was not in effect at all, but nevertheless, this is also i wish it was for ukraine less profitable than what they didnt have, those, those programs that, under which it was possible, because under land lease it would still have to be paid later, paid, paid for what was provided, so what they were given was even more profitable, no, for ukraine, yes, im just curious, american taxpayers , when asked the question how much such generosity costs, i mean in pockets of green, in general the white house said, admitted that 111 billion was spent on ukraine, thats how much was spent on lobbying. These laws, how much money they put in their pockets, various, i think that congressmen, congressmen are angry precisely because they didnt get it, because the money was allocated to the wrong people, probably those who didnt get it and are angry, but of course, thats it those who shout with all their might that yes, they are probably there, well, yes, like the Atlantic Council , yes, which, in my opinion, just sits firmly on the atlantic, sits firmly on all the hawks of the world, and by the way, interesting, they registered you as a Foreign Agent atlantic. But he doesnt work for us, what do we have, he registered as a Foreign Agent, well, mcfaul registered as a Foreign Agent, or he doesnt receive anything , well, im just wondering, whats inside the atlantic community, then in my opinion you can receive any grants, they were imprisoned for this , im talking about that ukraine in this case , if they were now discussing the issue of accepting ukraine. Right and wrong , so biden got everything right, so, in fact, he continues his activities, he prepared a gift especially for you, a camela, yes, you can be andrey now to continue, but first we will show him, kamul, as a gift, i can imagine something that may not be burdened by what was, you know, what may be, by what was, what may be is not burdened by what was, that which may not be burdened by what was, that which may not be burdened by that which was , so that we see, that we believe, may not be burdened by that which was, that, one phrase. I can show you like this from about five oclock, this is her on purpose. Clinton is sitting there like this, oh my, what has it all come to, god, whats going on in washington . Its happening that i graduated, what is this, like the university of california, california, its easy to be a prosecutor, a procuron, seriously, just ask the prosecutor, do you have a groin, i have many friends who are prosecutors, i havent heard from anyone that its easy, no, well, theyre not in california , in any case, now, by the way, ive changed my priorities, i m now for geven, so that he can be president , anyway, hes a californian, Something Like a californian, a californian, but he is faster than so to speak, kamala can bring this country, until definitely, until a certain situation, when it no longer threatens the world, i really like how biden told the republicans that he hoped that they would fulfill the agreements that his friend michel undertook there, i think that michel just hung up and he would be happy to fulfill it, but he doesnt remember what he promised, yes, hes such a person who hangs up all the time, so its fantastic, but such people who hang out in power, how can this be understood, by the way, its interesting that biden is also stuck, i hope that this experience became personal for the speaker. Revelation, im not joking, i, in any case, in any case, either this or one of the amas laughed at the boastfulness, in any case , this is what i saw, they simply forgot about ukraine, they forgot the word, they almost uruguay they didnt give it, 27 Foreign Ministers, i finally came to the final conclusion, listen, they dont, they do so much, well, this Banking Center needs to be bombed, this is understandable, another thing is clear, that they said so much, as leaders, so and these Foreign Ministers talked about ukraine, what it should be, and what it should be in the future and how it should be armed and how it should be. We need to accept everywhere that, strictly speaking, we should have, in my opinion, only one conclusion to this, that such a ukraine should not exist , and so if such a ukraine should not exist, then strictly speaking, this ukraine needs to be eliminated, so you need to reach, cut off from the sea and reach the dogra, this goes without saying, but its categorical, why shouldnt there be even these ukraines, no volodya, i understand that you have a project. Right, well done, you see, here, here are the strategic thoughts , why do we need them, well, well, let them go, where will you reeducate them, you know how many are in germany now, all of them are going to canada, no problem, they are already out of habit, they accustomed to scurrying, gathered for canada, to this we can only add that perhaps, should not be burdened by what happened, oh, yes, this is strong. And ill say a few words, so to speak, its clear, no, not like that, what will happen, yes, yes, is not burdened by the fact that the main thing is there, hands, hands, you need a dance, understand lets practice, okay, well, in general, about what happened in the parliament of canada, and , i think that it was well prepared, i think that at some point they were very surprised that several Jewish Organizations made a fuss, and that, by the way, after them, after these Jewish Organizations, in poland, there even several ministers advocated the extradition of this comrade, after which he was going to south america, this is not just like that, this is a plan, this is an idea, so tell victoria, shes taking a long time developed this, of course, the jewish woman victoria came up with such a nazism that you can sell parts to a jew, thats for sure, she came up with the first words that there is no nazism in ukraine, because zelsky is a jew. Jew blinkin, yes, jew blinkin later picked it up, but, but vika nuland, an experienced , insidious, so to speak, understandable, cunning enemy, she really was able to make a product that she sold partly to a jew, talking with moscow jews, so say, with the israelis you can see, well, maybe not half of israel, but substantial part. The local residents and the local faithful here avoid questions without clearly condemning them, so to speak, they bought there, what do you want the canadians not to buy, in general they were always far overseas, this was such an idea, i must say that this is kind of an idea, which they were able to carry out into this very thing, of course, it is necessary to expand it, we are actually very lucky that this story received an eye, it must be supported and expanded in every possible way, it is necessary to point out the specific people who did it, to achieve this , take witnesses from any people from abroad who are ready to confirm this, request documents from speaker justin trudeau. Parliament, in general, i say, declaring an International Father as an accomplice of nazi criminals is a great idea, but there is no statute of limitations, sorry, and i dont know, i would like to look into the eyes, by the way, of very many statesmen who would receive a telex with the appropriate request, including surrounded by former soviet states that would receive a request for this kind of arrest, but if muus has such impudence to demand the arrest of our supreme commanderinchief, let him. Trudeau will be brought in in handcuffs, its clear that they wont, no, why, there are guys, you can order this, this seems to me, we need to be careful about this, such guests , set a task, they give you whoever you want, by the way, here its a question of a political decision, yes, now theres a political decision, i think that the devil hero of russia, one goes and comes back with his tongue, which means that it concerns, or with with his tongue . Concerning the young peoples pact of the rebentrob of the ussr, which means that i am categorically opposed to talking at all about the fact that the ussr can be criticized, so to speak, but cannot be criticized, the ussr , the soviet era is part of the thousandyear history of russia, a very controversial time, very interesting, which was marked by a lot of bad things , and good, and in general it was, it was our x century, our x century , in fact, this is the soviet union, theres no getting away from it if you dont have. Century you dont have a continuous history, period, thats why if we condemn the fact of molotov ribentrop, we begin there is at least someone to equate, in this situation, instead of a state with a thousandyear history, we are becoming a state with a thirtyyear history, by the way , joseph stalin, the bolsheviks around him, and the trotsky faction and many others, they believed that history was real began with the october revolution, but it didnt, its just to draw all sorts of historical parallels; back in the thirties , many rurikovichs and romanovs were rehabilitated, and even more so during the war, and in fact the retreat from the line of stalin, he actually gave birth to all the negative processes in the postwar ussr. You can agree or disagree, i have never been a fan of the socialist economic system, but god bless him, but all those things in public life that happened, when they were with the fact that they were supposedly returning to purely lenisko. Principle, and these purely leninist principles meant a rejection of the thousandyear history of russia, and from this point of view it is necessary to judge, this is a great power, which , if it leaves its place, will only then when the earth hits the celestial axis, if the whole world does not understand this, why should we understand it instead of them . By the way, i understand that it is very pleasant to consider that the world majority is for us, and if there were not a majority for we, noah, didnt care, absolutely, absolutely, russia , this must be understood, just like that, we, for our own reasons, we will explain to our people why we did it, we dont have to explain anything to you, we are the winners in that war, there are questions, there are no questions, lets move on to the next question, thats it, heres to me it seems that you understand, this audacity still doesnt exist, and as long as we live in an onocentric world, it wont exist, which means we wont have complete success in the 21st century, this is also clear here. About the internet, i did everything the same, there is no feeling that we have to do everything our own way, apparently, it still hasnt dawned on everyone, in some matters, yes, we need a state defense order, we need Something Else, but the same internet, but its clear that the internet itself, how it appeared, how these socalled companies were born big numbers or biggtech, as they are called, so to speak, in the west, these are the Global Structures of the west, this is the Global Community of all these programmers, they are among themselves. They are all connected to each other in these global networks, and, as it were, the power of those who brainwash, accordingly, a technologist overseas in the socalled europe , it is still collectively larger than ours, well, that means we need to somehow approach this in an appropriate way with an understanding of this problem, because well, despite everything that yandex built in russia, i i would say so, unprecedented, of course, infrastructure, this ecosystem , as they call it. It simply doesnt exist anywhere, in any european city, theres simply nothing like it, i traveled to almost all the capitals of europe before covid, well, i can say this, well, theres nothing like this anywhere, no, in america like this. No, they started making networks and gave up, in this sense, the competition for the best urban environment, so to speak, is not only moscow, by the way, but also many of our other cities, it has already won russia, you just dont need to run to tell everyone about it, look at whats all of us, this should be clear only to those people who are ours or whom we want to become ours, for example, the engineers we are going to invite here, and by the way , the engineers we are going to invite here, well, i dont know, from any. That is, it seems to me that many of the problems that exist today, that there is a question of teaching history, until recently, at least, that the question of the internet, that the question of immigration, that we bring god knows who, you name it, when there is no politics , there is no ideological basis for who we want to bring, who should live in russia in 30 years, the state at the state level, mindful of its thousandyear history, does not say who it wants to see here, what kind of population it wants to see here in 30 years, then this issue will be decided by the diasporas and the corresponding authorities with the corruption money that they will receive, nothing else will happen, a holy place is never empty, in this sense, it means, completing, as it were, my probanking, i want to say, i myself really want to hit like a banker, but its not you and me who decide, yes, and if we approach this purely analytically, i more or less understand, not that all the reasons, but the psychology of this decision, because watching all western publications, behavior western politicians, we see that over the past, there are almost 2 years, there will be 2 years there in february, special military operations, despite everything that you and i dont understand why anna lena berbuk is traveling, and why zelensky travels around the world, and the overall score in this hybrid confrontation, which is recognized by the way, the partial congress of the United States is on our side, we are not exacerbating this conflict, as it were, the score is slowly dipping in our favor. It would seem that in a hybrid confrontation between russia and the west, the west can, what is this formula, support ukraine as much as it takes, this means that they can print money for this hybrid confrontation, as much as, well, they have a machine in their hands, and sooner or later we will collapse, and then suddenly they have such tension, that is, they felt, that this is a hybrid. Indirect war, it is not given to them for free, that their mechanism is malfunctioning, apparently, there is an idea that just a little more, and then it itself will begin to crack, it actually its cracking itself, there was a fight for a second, in the lower house of parliament, a person was right on video capturing us by the face , that is, its like this, well, who are you helping, laws, there was nothing to demolish the office of the president of ukraine, about the same yes , the supreme commandersinchief seem to see the picture first in the west they are gradually beginning to understand that the most dangerous thing in this situation, in my opinion. The only thing that is most dangerous is that they will run to put up too much, no, no , its dangerous if we suddenly believe them, yes , of course, thats what im talking about, they can run as much as they want, the main thing is not to accept it, and then, who to talk to, well, by the way, speaking of the question from trudeau, here you can, by the way, apply the following, once we already applied this formula, putin applied it very gently, said that since this administration there will be no more we are talking, we proceed from the fact that we will develop with trump, now we need some formulation Something Like this until, as a result of a civil conflict , a truly popular government of the United States, represented there, appears on the territory of the socalled United States ; talk until the people of the United States are freed from narrow capitalism, well, here we are and a true peoples democratically elected government of workers and christians will not bring to power , its exactly the same thing only with the late voice of putin, advertising. 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Fever dads, the main thing is to hang in there, and we are here, we are trying very, very hard, from october 9, 21 20 on the russia channel, continuation of our discussion, sergei itorovich lavrov, on the sidelines of the twentieth meeting of the valdae club said this today, it was amazing how with speed , this external good looks, with which they covered themselves in recent years, has practically disappeared from all europeans, while maintaining there are some remnants of not only diplomacy, but also elementary ethics, but in general this is a manifestation of what is commonly called nazism, this is only in relation to russians, just like many other things are done in relation to russians. They say not only putin is to blame, all russians are to blame for electing him, here you go, pure nazism, this is about the ban on the entry of cars with russian license plates into European Countries. Well, yes, and in fact, applause in the Canadian Parliament when for fighting with russians, yes, this is also an indicator, and they apologized to everyone, to jews, poles, gypsies, lgbt, racial minorities, except russians, that is , to him, well, its normal here, but it was possible to kill russians in those years, now , but i will now return to this, gunka, and now i want to say that with all my love for the soviet union, i think that , of course, in no case should it be banned for a year, or 10, or for a month, criticize, praise, why, because some disputes and discussions are very relevant, especially now, that is, i, for example, have always criticized and criticize the soviet union for stalins policy of ukrainization, a very relevant topic now, especially in the south of russia, where, as you. There is also a discussion about which languages ​​should be made official in schools and so on and so forth, that is, or i always criticize the policy of the soviet union regarding, well, lets say , hushing up, mixing, many crimes that were committed by various, well, close to the soviet union, nationalities, national minorities, ukrainian militants, that is no matter how we condemned it, this is an atrocity. Ukrainian bourgeois nationalism, but well, so superficially, you know, i dont go into details, all the documents were classified, all the newspapers of the nazi occupation of this bourgeois ukrainian government, collaborators were classified, i remember how i was the first to enter the special storage room, when they were only declassified in the early nineties, and now my hair was standing out as to why we didnt have access to any of this, why. We didnt know any of this, and by that time, that is, this is still im telling you, they were just declassifying the beginning of the nineties, yes, by that time, as Sergei Aleksandrovich correctly noted, everything was already seeded there with these canadian guys in embroidered shirts, uncles, aunties, this gunka, yaroslav, yes, he came to ukraine the first time in 1989, he took part in elections in ukraine as an observer, in the late eighties, early nineties. But no one said anything about anything , we didnt have any documents anywhere about these guneks of all kinds and so on, that is, when the authorities handed over the kleinodas to the ukrainian president kravchuk, yes, then it would seem that if we had all these documents at hand, we would see, wait, well, these are being handed over by those same nazi collaborators who yawned at hitler when yaroslava statko arrived from munich all this mess , which means yaroslava statsko, the wife of the same statsko, who swore to hitler on june 30, 1941 during the massacre of the jews of lvo, immediately took part in the elections, she became the oldest member of parliament, opened the meeting of the verkhovna rada, i say again, a lot of this is all we only then began to read, learn, discover, by that time in all ukrainian schools we studied from textbooks, in canada , with these same guns, that is, in the early nineties, when ukraine declared independence, yes, that is, there were no textbooks on history of ukraine, suitable for ukrainian nationalists, they imported textbooks from urest suptelny, textbooks published by foundations at the university of alberta, where there was also a foundation of yaroslav gunka, until recently, now this scandal has begun, the university alberta, thats it, were all returning these 30,000 dollars, no, no, all this, where does gonka get the money anyway . No, he has it, he built a business there, they all helped each other there in the diaspora, his son is a big businessman there in some corporation, i can, uh, say which one i dont know, but whats my point, that is, they are all generous comrades there , the same chrystia freeland, who grew up in a family of nazi collaborators, they create there, they have public funds there, by the way, ill now tell you about these funds that at. The university of alberta, it was precisely at this university that the first textbooks were published for ukrainian ukrainian schools, kindergartens , where muscovites appeared, they are ruining kiev, muscovites are destroying kiev, where it means we were enslaved by the russian, yuri doloruk, dolnoruki, which means there why then he became russian, although it seems that his grandfather is ukrainian, his father is ukrainian, but he became russian, and so on, so what do you want . You understand, that is, vladimir the holy, yaroslav, no, now, now, but grandfather yuri dolgoruk. All they are, of course, generous ukrainians, suddenly, suddenly a russian came from somewhere, suddenly Andrei Bogolyubov russian came from somewhere and so on , yes, well, well, it doesnt matter, i imagine if they came up to my grandfather and said where this ukrainian is, he attacked, a simple viking would swing an ax, what am i talking about, what i was talking about this is a fund, there is one of the largest funds that still exists, i. I told you on a program here, it is impossible to close it, there are not 30,000 , there is much more there than in gunka, kubiyovich, who created at the same time the same university of alberta, the encyclopedia, what he writes there, who grandfather yuri was for a long time, an encyclopedia, ukrainians, you know , they created a textbook from this encyclopedia, kubiyovich, you can again type it anywhere, its full of photographs comparing him with the nazi elite , he didnt even hide his nazi views, and so on , and what do you think, today i went to look, so this fund exists there for a third of the government of the province of alberta, with this nazi, you know, who is, well, an open nazi, there and not like gunka, whom no one knew, which is full of photographs, where he is. That is, what i mean is that now they are there full of his grandfather who is asking and not me now from him Vladimir Monomakh not Vladimir Monomakh it is not clear a simple russian simple ukrainian guy. Not once again Vladimir Monomakh is ukrainian, and yuri dolnorukiy is russian, well, thats it, that is, everything is simple, no, so you understand, thats what they say, yuri dolnorukiy, that means your founded moscow, yes, we already had kiev, i i always tell them, wait, but he first captured kiev, and then moscow became, why, i didnt found it, but also squeezed it out, well, yes, too, but what i mean is that they are now making surprised faces, surprised faces. About the fact that, yes, what is all this, kiev, how far to go, the kiev princes of the ukrainians im trying to find, but no, well, they prove that they were all digging the black mud at that time, why is there this surprise in canada, where did they come from, you show the former minister of justice, how did they end up, listen, you were the minister of justice, you could have asked, demanded publish a report. Which was prepared in 1986 on all these hundreds of nazis, they werent hiding, when i m digging through these documents now, at the same university alberto was solemnly awarded in 2007, and it said golechin division, yes , that is , dozens of such gunikas werent hiding, you know, they now pretend to be surprised, look, where did they really come from in that canada . They grew up there together, they were nurtured by the local authorities, as we speak, trudeau knew or no, chrystia freeland, who applauded there, knows perfectly well who gunka is, and what the golyachin division is, we dont know the answer to another question, heres the photo that the granddaughter published, where the offices are in the dressing room, the grandfather is waiting for him, so he had an audience, they prove that he did not, but then they showed a photograph of their son, the speaker of parliament and the head of the liberal faction of this parliament, hugging well known Opposition Leader claims that there was a meeting, well, this is him on the same post granddaughter, who said that he was waiting in the Reception Room, but the Trudeau Administration assures that this is the Reception Room of this company, the speaker of parliament, but the opposition says that the meeting took place before, well, based on this, zelensky knew exactly who he was applauding, there was no when they told him that in the second, zelsky already understood who was in the Second World War, he said, dinok , you will burn me, you, you, this phrase, by the way, farion about the fact that the historical truth, you know, was sold to the jews , yes, as she stated there, this is definitely necessary disseminate them now, of course, well, then you really see, maybe the conflict wont end with this, but not a single western newspaper, today in any case, i leafed through, leafed through, that is, essentially a fulltime german employee, this justifies him, as if it wasnt the point, thats not the point, again, what kind of interpretation do all these launchers give, yes, in this regard, yes, at the beginning we somehow argued with vitaly tovich, i still want to say that the council is a Mass Organization and not parliament , i quote lenin and stalin talked about that after all, soviet elections are different, but i agree with you. The Supreme Council is also massive. Im with you, he said Something Else, in general, read stalins speech, in my opinion, in december 1937 in the bolshoi theater, everything is said there, about the bogdanovs, and about the selifanovs, and so, regarding criticism , i am also against criticism of the past, in general it should be forgotten, thats what it is, i criticize the past or i do not criticize the past, who are we to criticize stalin or lenin, or cromville, or churchill from our position. Or anyone, a machine operator, dayarka, partisans who were, what does it mean we criticize them, now lets criticize them, we would live then, we would criticize stalin, i dont know, its unlikely, you cant criticize your past, definitely not for long, definitely not for long, although , by the way, it is also an exaggeration that under stalin there was absolutely criticism, within the party discussion, and stalin treated differently depending on the talent of the one who criticizes. He could have pressed, but he loved bulgakovov, therefore he loved, now from his position, to criticize the dead who had passed away, its the same as criticizing the prophet moses, whether he did something right or wrong, we can express a judgment , reflect on objective, subjective reasons, we definitely need, it seems to me, not to criticize, but to prohibit anything, then we need to determine what is criticism, this is to kant, now we have been saying since then, but if we go. Then we are obliged to criticize, but if our mind is still pure, if if we speak with scientific criticism, but with us criticism is quick flows into criticism, i would say that in the desire to condemn, it is always necessary to take into account the historical fact, to understand in what historical circumstances at what time, in my opinion, the phrase is such a relevant discussion, if the conclusions of criticism lead you to the need for suicide, why the hell such criticism is not needed, thats all, in the life of one person, of a country, society there and so on, so on, so forth, but we need to look at it objectively, and here, when we are now all indignant and doing the right thing, what happened in canada, this is a change in style, yes, if you are being scammed, then why the hell is it necessary, i dont like it , believe me, i can speak at an academic council, great. This is correct, although these are completely literary words, regarding, regarding all these canadian cases, we are surprisingly indignant, as if all this rehabilitation of nazism began, regarding the ukrainian issue, look how it all happened, they were right after the war, americans they realized that they needed those who collaborated with hitler, and it didnt start with snuland, there were reports, they had already been declassified by the authorities in which for each stedko, belarusian collaborators, armenian, no matter what, they had a file on all of them and they decided that they needed them. Take the same manstein, who was an adviser to Konrad Adenaur during the creation of the bundeswe, the man who gave these proven criminal orders, including in crimea to exterminate civilians. Open nazis. The movement of revanchism is something that soviet , well, propaganda, as they said then, openly fought, in western germany there was a Mass Movement for several decades, tens of thousands went to rallies for the release of ges from prison, from where ges became symbols, the symbol of these neonazis among about football fans, from western germany and everything, they turned a blind eye to all this in that period, and, you know, there was such a jesuitical logic, so they could pass sentences against certain nazi criminals, uh, even mortal or lifelong , everyone knew where they were, absolutely, somewhere they advised some next latin american dictator, helped create the aparthea regime in south africa, advised some reactionary regimes in the middle east, all this was normal. Everyone understood perfectly well that these were scum, criminals, scoundrels, but they were useful scum, during this time a whole system of argumentation was created, which. But how cunningly they did hitler, its impossible, even someone like gerring is impossible, for example, why the extrication of ukrainian nationalists from babi yar, from the entire ukrainian holocaust, began, but not exactly what to do with it, but how . Well, in the world of women, that s the logic, they say the scoundrels, you know, well, they shot them there, but they didnt they shot, thats what they did, they hung up notices around kiev, there to gather jews, they hung up more than 2,000 notices , they hung up notices, they didnt, well, well, even if he didnt, they didnt know what he was doing, or like in our country, for example, they tried to twist some of them out, and they shot them too, and then they shot them, of course, but they started with this, so to say, and you prove it, we have some policemen, they say, well, he himself didnt shoot in trostyanets , and what did he do, escorted there, escorted, and then stood near the door, but this was accepted by society, at first for. And then through this emigration, and the first wave was not dealt with there, the second wave was transferred to us, and not only to ukraine, it came to russia, where did these attempts come from in the nineties, to say that vlasov is a freedom fighter, but thank god , you, we stopped this in time, but a former policeman came to belarus in 93, at that time the chairman of the belarusian peoples rada in exile in 93, a party member sat with this scumbag sazhich, one of the leaders of the policemen under the nazis together on one stage we celebrated the 75th anniversary of the belarusian peoples republic, we had all this in the nineties, but in ukraine they didnt stop it in time, somewhere in our country they didnt notice in the heat of the moment, well, the details, but that we will really understand the past, when a great future awaits us, and during the negotiations , these and russianukrainian historical issues were often raised, then they said, well , lets not make a fuss, why are we getting into this . These are some outcasts, well, these are some old people who came, why do we need this touch on, it happened, it happened and now we are faced with it, well, okay, that was all, what conclusions should we draw next, now we are having a discussion, you see, i dont understand, are you criticizing them, or what . Who, well, these . Collaborators, podunks, who, i criticize when i still remember, when i lived, i dont criticize that past, well, you criticize them for that past when you didnt live, as you delve completely into yes we criticize or dont criticize, i can say one phrase literally, but dmitry was right in principle, that unfortunately, the soviet government had an indirect hand in this, for example, lets say, you and i all grew up, im sure, and didnt know that , for example, a village was executed, we didnt know anything about it either, there were silent figures , which also worked for them, objectively speaking, if we mention this now, here it constantly sounds , lets grab hold of one thing or another, well smash the bank, which means well change something in higher education, lets turn to history, that is now we have a normal feeling when a revolutionary process is underway change into what was developed over 30, 40, maybe 50, 60 years, but we must also understand that although the process is accelerating, we will not be able to do this in a year or two, we have a lot of systematic work ahead, yesterday on the program koren georgivich said that he is happy that some kind of revolution is underway, but its called. From above, when often forced, under the pressure of circumstances, in the absence of any plan, and sometimes simply with the feeling that you cant live like this, you remember that popular the slogan of the perestroika period, yes, you cant live like that, but in fact, at some point , both russian and Belarusian Society felt that living like that came from perestroika, postperestroika times, which vitaly tovich constantly talks about, and even himself he probably had a hand in this then. It is very good to say that the authorities are not to blame, the journalist was to blame, you will reread my articles of that time, so who elected the authorities in a parliamentary republic . You didnt vote in Supreme Council . You know how they voted, the kalinsky district was, the kalinsky district in the city of moscow, so kalinsky, its not central, but gorbachev passed through another district, if thats if you understand the soviet electoral system, then, vitalich, lets go back to that, go back from me to a healthy, yes reals, from you, returning to what we are talking about, in fact now we are only well. At the beginning, but in the first stages of this big revolution from above, it will not end even with a victory in the special military operation and in parallel with the danger that sometimes sounds here, we must not fall into the trap of these negotiations, here is the danger , you know what else there is, we will win and everything will stop there, and it will be the same as before, here we are in belarus since the twentieth year sometimes critics reproached, you want to go back to august 8, that is, before the start, we dont want to go back there, we understand what the mistakes were. Were screwed up, what was done wrong, what we should change, now the very important thing is to fundamentally get rid of this feeling, to return to february 22, 2022, this, by the way, they want to impose in the west, they say that russia will no longer lose, but it should not be allowed to win, and what does this mean, and this means returning to that period, and this cannot be allowed, because this is a detail, but from this detail they can start with. As for Jewish Organizations, not a single Jewish Organization represents either the jews or the Jewish Population in any country in the world, these are small organizations, small businessmen who gather, receive funding, and they work for themselves, that is, some meetings, some speeches , no one has ever elected them anywhere, not in any Jewish Organization. In the United States, there are about 200, no one has ever elected them, a local oligarch creates an organization , she operates, she does charity work, she organizes some evenings, he, since he is the main one who finances, he is its president , and then they all gather, and there is what is called the presidency in the office, that is, the president ial council, there they choose the next oligarch. In depending on how many zeros he has after that, nine is better, nine is good, its rarely less, that is , nowhere do they ever represent the jewish people, in israel this is not the case, because we have a country, but they dont , here they are going about their great affairs, so it is impossible to make any claims against them, for which they do not represent anyone, themselves, but it is customary for there to be some kind of community. In this community there are some small things, there are city affairs, well , its nice for him, this will be another certificate for him sit on the hanging wall, he will introduce himself and to all the titles he, i am the head of the Jewish Organization in netroit, everything is fine, i have seen so many of them here and there, there is nothing to take them seriously and there is nothing to expect anything from them, erwin kotler, i am him i know, he is independent, he has always been independent, he has always spoken out, he said to the honor of poland, the polish people , one might say, they raised, they raised this issue, to the shame of the jewish state, the Jewish Organization, they were in the tail, although it is impossible compare how many poles there are these ukrainian nazis killed how many jews, absolutely incomparable things. But politics, i say, is a dirty business, you were talking here about stalin, about monuments , well, its strange to me, you can erect a memorial to kolchuk , you can erect a monument to wrangel, you can erect a monument to stalypin, this does not lead, all the people will accept it, but stalin is not allowed, and lenin is not allowed, with all due respect to stalypin , the role. Lenin and stalin, in this state , in that state, is incomparable, so why are these yes and these are not, who decides this, or is it up there . They sit and say, no matter how the boat is shaken, they will all accept this, that it will be unanimous, has anyone held a referendum in stalingrad, asking the residents, no, those who are sitting at the top, are you for a return . Your city its name or not, no, they held a referendum there, when, by the way, recently they held a referendum, in what year, well, a year ago, they decided that no. Unfortunately, its not the result that i would like, and unfortunately, if i remember correctly, now well ask the editor to output the result, if not, then who should we apply to . I dont know, i havent heard that anyone was a candidate to run the city, so they say, he said and in one of my points to return the city to the city of the second name, no one dares, well, heres the Twentieth Division in which i was , they are based in volgograd. They call themselves stalingrad, i dont understand everything, the name itself, that is, i was, i was there and i heard from them that vladimir says, on victory day they called themselves stalin, i actually say this, this you decide this is your country, but if there is no one in the city who he says, im going to the municipal elections, one of my points is that i will demand the return of that name to the city, so whats the point of the complaints . If you throw it all away and no one pays attention to it, semiliterate, completely illiterate, write what they want, why, what are you complaining about, it is subject to stone, water does not flow, if the country needs it, it is necessary, its being done now, we need to collect, as they wrote in a large soviet encyclopedia, collect it, start doing it, well, in february , tsi conducted a survey about the return of volgograd historical name, the survey results indicate that City Residents are most likely not to support this initiative, 67 . Rather, i wasnt talking about issues of Public Opinion, i was talking about a referendum, these are different concepts, in our country they think about a referendum, we just have a law on a referendum in our country, i say again, i didnt have a referendum, what is being held Public Opinion polls, i can tell you how we conduct them and how they conduct what, i can tell you how referendums are conducted, but referendums are money, in order to allocate money, it is necessary that there is a need in society, in order for there to be a need in society, first a Public Opinion poll is carried out , an agenda is formed on its basis, but this, unfortunately, is not a cheap pleasure, any referendum is all a bureaucratic excuse, what well, this is money, why a bureaucratic excuse, if this issue was relevant for volgograd residents, they would say it, if it was important, they did it, then it doesnt matter to you, it doesnt matter to you, so sit quietly, who cares, no, well, wait, well, you are the city of volgograd, who should determine the decision, well, if its important , who decides which ones, well, you, you said it correctly, there are, for example, Municipal Bodies there, people are elected, they dont raise this question, thats what im saying , that means, why are they making complaints, claims, if no one needs it or is not enough, for this, yes, the same with the encyclope, it costs money, yes, but what if . I am for stalingrad, i am for the destruction of the dziedzhinsky monument, i am for a lot, if there is an electronic encyclopedia made by experts, the truth, well, thats you now you are studying at the university, yes, they started, they started, so they got the money, they are doing it, when it will be, then no one will , at least School Teachers will not send to wikipedia or google, and will not accept all the work, which. Rely on google, well, but only on a proven one, its also not so easy, unfortunately, by the way, always, always rely on the big one, or on britannica, it was yes, thats not the point, its just that if you live in in the digital world, you need what you created to be picked up by Search Engines, of course, and they also gave you this high, this is a technical question, well, the same thing, the same google, only made by specialists, people the answer. It works much harder, it requires a lot of money, because in order for Search Engines to pick it up and pull it out, you have to invest a lot of money, not only in software, but in hard, that is, either you need to ban everything that can be created, but we have not yet banned it technologically either we can, even first we need to create an alternative, and then it will choose itself. If you want, save money on it, but then dont make a complaint, why are childrens brains filled with this garbage, and there is no other . But there are opportunities and there is their absence, that is, it just works out or doesnt work out, you know how it was at one time, according to the world s calculations, in china there should never have been a telephone in every family if they relied on the technology of conducting copper wires there, but then it appeared, well, that is, theoretically there was not so much copper in the world, there is an order of priorities, so this means that this is not a high priority for you . If not, then be satisfied the fact that your children will be brainwashed from the internet, but again , its not like that, well, they do this, they earn money, they got money, they work, but unfortunately, nothing happens at such a speed, well, now we can to attack Moscow State University for saying that it is working slowly, well, its easier, of course, yes, who is there , who are the deans, now its not the deans who got the money, but its clear, that is, the deans didnt get the money, thats for now, for now, for now, until the court finishes the job , your children will read in yandex and wikipedia, come to terms with this, well, okay, but we didnt reconcile ourselves, thats why we allocated funds, thats why we work, if we hadnt talked about all this for many years, now no one has allocated anything, thats all, you know, you remind me of the soviet school, the girl is standing there crying, its not just the teacher saying, she says, you dont know , she says, well, i taught you, no, because there is, you dont know that im the person who came, looked, said fuck you , took a hair, everything worked out, but in real life this does not happen, in real life any process it takes time, lets hand it over now, you know how it was, we need the communist party for the congress, so you can eat the citizen, but you need to be a member of the party, so that there is a child, they say, i can be a member of the party, a child is difficult, there is no husband, husband it will be, but it will eat in 3 months, lets give three husbands, well, its the same here, well, it takes time. So that, unfortunately, it takes time to do this, well , what to do, well, this is a process, well, these are slow writers, deans, lets kick them out, well put others in, theyll write quickly, without you they will kick you out, that, you see, they are already ready, well, of course, youre right, and the state is doing this, thats why the textbook is new , thats why they invested money here, thats why theyre doing it, well, theyre doing everything, but not all at once, this is a mitigating wine of circumstances, a difficult one childhood, childhood, i understand, it was childhood, wait a minute, your generation ruined the country, what you present to us is that my generation didnt ruin anything, my generation, i built my country, thats right, you built another country, youre happy with the fact that i say, in the country you are living in now, you are happy with the fact that it was built, so what, and you criticize israel all the time, which means something didnt work out too well, much better than it was , much better than people dreamed, worse than it should be, here we are much better than it was in the nineties, well, of course, worse than we dream, but worse than we dream , yes, about what was said here about how much trouble everything from ukraine has made, i saw this demonstration of the upa in kiev in the nineties in their uniform on khreshchatyk, along khreshchatyk they went with their flags, when to hell with them, you go with this yellowblakit, but when i saw red and black, thats where i shuddered, this is. Too much, they walked calmly, under police protection, in lvov they came to power in 1989, the soviet union was alive and now, thank god, the formation has changed, well and how much wood was broken from babemiy, how much kuznetsov ran around the thresholds, how much was broken for him in ukraine in order to prevent him from publishing a book, only they were delivered from moscow, and then