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Mr. Moderator, do we have any calls . There are no callers in the queue at this time. Thank you. Public comment on item 11 is closed. May i have a motion on this item . Move to approve. Second. Madame secretary, please call the role call vote. [roll call] thank you. You have five ayes. The motion carries. Thank you. Next item, please. Item 12 is authorize the general manager to negotiate and execute a memorandum of understanding with the public works department, Municipal Transportation Agency, Fire Department and Port Commission regarding the authority and responsibility for operations and maintenance of public improvements at the mission rock special use district. And approve amendments to the mission rock infrastructure plan. And deputy g. M. Michael carlin will introduce this item. So, the title of the item actually explain what is were doing here. It is a memorandum of understanding to outline responsibility and authority for each City Department as we go into port property in the future. Port property, port streets are going to stay under the sdwru, of the port but well have infrastructure under those streets and we want to make sure we have the ability to fix those streets going forward. I will naention mission rock is the one doing the black water system and the micro grid. Commissioners, any questions . Yes. I have a question. Since part of another reason that its coming before us is because theres going to be a change, i think because theyre going to do something different, which is the light weight Cellular Concrete and i dont know whether it has been done or not, but they dont know how thats going to affect the streets. And so my question is, since its unknown, the cost associated with the maintenance of utilities and the light weigh cellular coconcrete will exceed the cost of maintenance, utilities in the street without the light rate Cellular Concrete. If we find there is a problem, whos going to be responsible for that . Will the developer be responsible for differences from the light weight concrete to the regular . Yes. So, were going through the process right now and evaluating light weigh Cellular Concrete with the port and the public works. It will come under the jurisdiction of the City Engineer who will have to make a determination of the use of light weigh Cellular Concrete. Its also that we have written into the m. O. U. That its there will be acceptance criteria and there will be failure criteria and it will come out of the incremental tax fund for the project as a whole to make up the difference between what we would normally pay for in a street the differences with the light weight Cellular Concrete. So were working on that with all the other domestics as well. We havent landed on that as well. Its not an alternatives and not the final say to say thats what were going use. If we decide to use that. Who is going to be yeah. If the City Engineer makes a determination on the use of it and the responsibility again will come out of the tax benefit for the project to make up the difference at that point in time. We have a responsibility for if it was a normal street, if something broke, we were replacing it but if it is failure of the light weight Cellular Concrete, that difference between normal fixing it will come outs of the tax increment for that project. Lit not be the San Francisco p. U. C. That will pay for that. For the increment. Thats correct. Ok. So, we will not be liable. Thats correct. Ok. Thank you. I just wanted to also let you know that we have, you know, negotiated to put a pilot out there, a real live street section where they actually had [inaudible]. I think that was the first day i came out of quarantine to go and visit that site. And it is interesting. The basic concept is that normally you have bay mud, you [inaudible] so it will settle over time. Again in effect that they didnt have time, they removed a portion of the bay mud and put lightweight concrete that was lighter than what they removed. So, theyre releasing removing weight from there so that it will settle. So, that is the concept. S the concern we had is that what if our facilities are buried into light weigh concrete. You cant dig it up. So, that was one of exercises they performed in front of me and the City Engineers. And you can actually dig it out. Its different than soil. So they the developer is commited to whatever tools or equipment necessary for us to dig it out and they will provide it, and as michael indicated, if there is any differential and cost than we would normally do in the street versus this, they will cover it. And so, yeah. Right now its really up to the City Engineer to accept this light weight concrete or not. So, what so we would have soil and asphalt . Normally . Yeah. So normally, you know, its layers, right . So we have, you know, soil and in this case it will be bay mud. And then we would have some gravel and then we will have the light weight concrete and then well have half the concrete and then well have i mean thes a fall, asphalt and concrete on top. So you have a wearing surface that looks like every other street. I see. So, we have four steps with the light concrete rather than three. Yeah. Basically, yes. Normally, yeah. Normally we have all streets that have concrete. A portion of the street is asphalt, concrete and then you have the soil and stuff. Now we just have a lightweight concrete and in the wearing surface, which is asphaltconcrete. Wow. So it so is there a concern that its less durable or as durable . I mean, our streets are pretty rough right now. You know . They dont seem to last as long as maybe they used to. There are a lot of pits in it. So im just wondering. Well, my take is that, you know, if you have a thicker concrete section, you wont see a lot of, you know, breakage because what we experienced in especially the bayview is that when you have the settlement, you have a concrete base and after a while when you have a void, you cant really see it and what happens if you have a leak in the pipe, it starts eroding the soil. Now it is concrete and you wont get that erosion. So i think it could have [inaudible] better, but my fear is when you go to dig it up, we want to make sure that we can easily access our pipes just in case something happens. Ok. So youre thinking it might be more durable, but it may be more of a hassle to dig it up. Yes. Ok. Thank you. This is commission kerr paulson, if i could just say a couple of words in. So many of these projects, especially projects that are, you know, might be adjacent to rising tides and whatever else, this is being, you know, heavily experimented with and commissioner maxwell, your questions are absolutely apropos because anytime different Construction Technologies come into place, everybody wants to know is this going to work, is that going to work . Sort of like when the plasters said well, sheetrock will never replace it. [laughter] and things you know, things sort of change and ive heard nothing, you know, as the in my day job that this is going to be nothing but, you know, not just good for the roads, but good for all accessibility to infrastructure and all the new ways that people are looking at doing the horizontal parts of these development projects. So, thats just my two seconds. Thank you. Any other comments, questions . Madame secretary, could you please open Public Comment . Members of public who wish to make comment on item 12, dial 8882733658, access code 3107452 and pound followed by pound again. Dial 1 and then 0 to be added to the speaker line. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . There is one caller in the queue, madame secretary. Thank you. Operator you have one question remaining. Go ahead. Caller ive been hearing some of your statements and yall can make whatever statement you want to. But how does this project on mission rock, where we environmentalists for the longest time have been working or informing the department about toxic and substances control about real contamination on the site. The other things dont count much. The main thing is, has the site been mitigated . Just because theres some land there, we just cannot use it for whatever. This is what weve done all over candlestick point. Weve done it on Hunters Point. Parcel d, c, e, f, its all contaminated. Dont look at it in a superficial way and ive come before you before, when the people make the right type of comments, you dont like it. What is holistic about this project . That is what you should ask yourself. What is holistic about this project . At mission rock. This is a very, very, very contaminated site. Are you done . Ok. Thank you. Do we have anymore callers mr. Moderator . The queue is empty at this time. Thank you. That closes Public Comment on item number 12. Commissioners, are there any further discussion on this m. O. U. . Seeing none may i have a motion and a second . So moved. Second. Madame secretary, please take the roll call vote. [roll call] we have five ayes. The motion carries. Next item, please. Next item is item number 13. Authorize the general manager to negotiate and eke cute a memorandum of understanding with the Port Commission, San Francisco public works, San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency and the San Francisco Fire Department regarding each drms operations and maintenance of public improve. S the pier 70 special use district, including improvements located in streets turned pors jurisdiction. And this will be introduced by deputy general manager carlin. So it is the same sort of idea. This is another m. O. U. Between authority and jurisdiction. The thing here is basically they did surcharge this site with dirt so there is no light weight Cellular Concrete involved but we need the m. O. U. To have. The other department outline authority and responsibility moving forward. Id be glad to answer any questions. Commissioners. Questions. Comments. Madame secretary, please open Public Comment. Members of public who wish to make Public Comment on item 13, dial 8882733658, access code 3107452 and pound followed by pound again. Dial 1 and then 0 to be added to the speaker line. [music playing] mr. Moderator, do we have any calls . There is one caller in the queue. Thank you. Operator you have one question remaining. Go ahead, speaker. Caller so, pier 70 was used during world war ii to build ships. Theres also the stack there which means there was a power plant over there. Now i never mentioned this before, but never once do you all know about this and maybe you know about it that you look straight in the eye and lie. And this is what it is. Theres one Million Tonnes i repeat one Million Tonnes of coal tar by the stacks. It needs to be mitigated. There are two huge ammonia spills which were done by the navy. Which needs to be mitigated and abated. Now why i was choosing sites that are contaminated, and others have said this, too, others in the know why are we choosing sites that are contaminated so that we have some housing . And you know when they do this, the passing of the e. I. R. S and all during christmastime. But they never expected this pandemic to come. Now listen, i said this 25 years ago. No good will come at Hunters Point and there is one commissioner there thats heard me say that. No good will come at Hunters Point and no good will come at pier 70. Now heres another factor that you all never, ever took into account. Human remains of the first people were found at the site. Why dont we respect the sacred sites and respect the human remains of the first people . Because spirit,ly yall are bankrupt. [bell ringing] and, again, to go forward with this project, you have blood on your hands. Thank you, mr. Decosta. Mr. Moderator, do we have any other callers . There are no more callers in the queue. Thank you. That closes Public Comment on item 13. Commissioners, i would like a motion and a second on this item. Move to approve. Second. Madame secretary, please take the roll call vote. [roll call] you have five ayes. The motion carries. Madame secretary, could you please read the items that are to be heard in closed session . Item number 16 is existing mitigation, david alfaro et al. Versus city and county of San Francisco and item number 17 is existing litigation state water board cases, scament tore superior court jccp number 5013 originally filed on january 10, 2019 in tuoloune superior court as san joaquin tribute tears authority et al. Versus california state Water Resources control board case number cu62094. Madame secretary, please open the line to Public Comment for the items on closed session. Members of public wishing to speak on items 16 and 17, dial 8882733658, access code 3107452 and pound followed by pound again. Dial 1 and then 0 to be added to the speaker line. [music playing] mr. Moderator, do we have any calls . Madame secretary, there are no callers in the queue at this time. Thank you. Public comment on closed session item 16 and 17 is closed. At this time, i would like the request a motion on whether to assert the attorneyclient privilege. Move to assert. Second. Madame secretary, please take the roll call vote. [roll call] you have five ayes. The commission will now be entering closed session. And well be departing from the regular teleconference meeting. Members of public may remain on the line until the commission rejoins the regular meeting. To approve the settlements. Item 17, no action was taken. May i have a motion. Moved not to disclose. Second. Madam secretary. Could you call the roll for the vote. [roll call]. Five ayes. The motion carries. This meeting is now adjourned at 4 48 p. M. Thank you. role call . Item two is pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, for liberty and justice for all. Item 3, a approval of minutes for the may 12, 2020 meeting. So moved. Second. All in favor. Aye. Approved. Role call vote. role call . It passes unanimously. This passes. Item 4, please be advised a member of the public has up to three minutes to make Public Comments on each agenda item unless the Court Commission adopts a shorter period on any item. Please note that the Public Comment period, the moderator will instruct dialparticipants to register comment. Audio prompts will signal to dial in. Please dial in only when the item you wish to comment on is announced. Item 5, Public Comment on items notlessed on the agenda. We will open the phone lines to the public to take Public Comment on items not listed on the agenda from members of the public who are joining us on the phone. Jennifer will be our operator and will be providing instructions for anyone on the phone who would like to provide Public Comment. Operator thank you, president. We will open the cue for anyone. The conference is now is question and answer mode. Press 1 and then 0 to summon each question. Victor makrerish joining the meeting. Thank you. Thank you, commissioner. Youll be entered into the system and others will wait on mute. Comments are limited to three minutes per person and the cue is now open. Please dial 10 if you wish to make Public Comment. Thank you. Do we have anyone on the phone . Operator we have two callers on the line at this time. You have two questions remaining. Hello . Im with the Building Construction trades and i want to say in Public Comment that im in sport o supports of the c mission rock toront and i woulde that you would approve it. Thank you. Thank you. Next caller, please. Operator you have one question remaining. Question im peter osborne, the owner and operator of the mission rock resort on the south end of the waterfront. I want to thank president brandon and executive director elaine fubbs for the opportunity to speak and i hope you and all of your families are well during this pandemic and certainly our lives have changed dramatically announcemen. Im hopeful the vics weekends fire, like the rest of us who are already living a stressful life are able to find solutions to their new layer and problems and our hearts go out to them. San franciscos crab Fishing Community is a big part of who we are. As is all of the restaurant and retail stations along the waterfront. Needlesstosay, the decision to defer rents has been a welcome relief of shortterm stress, not not having to worry about that has been fantastic and i understand youre looking to expand that in the Commission Hearing and further, while you evaluate what truly is the best path forward for all of us. The slogan going around is that we are all in this together and we are literally all in this together and we need to stick together. This is unique and diverse and important to the fabric and the community of San Francisco as we know it and San Francisco has always been a waterfront city town and its up to the port to maintain that level of excellence and to keep life on the waterfront as we know it regardless of how its defined and changing on a daily basis in order for operators like my