Transcripts For SFGTV BOS Full Board Of Supervisors 20240712

SFGTV BOS Full Board Of Supervisors July 12, 2024

Continue. At least for me, ive heard the arguments that people have presented, and i think this is valid on both sides of this, and i personally, not knowing whats going to happen in the next two days, i personally would vote on the side of supporting it. But if, in the next two days, we find that the situation has calmed itself radically, i would say theres no need for the emergency. So thats how im looking at it. Supervisor haney, were you going to Say Something . I wasnt sure. Supervisor haney no, that was the point. President yee oh, okay. Supervisor haney i think that we need a unanimous vote ahead of it, to accept it or reject it. Otherwise, it stays in place until saturday. President yee right. So i made a motion. Its seconded, and we can vote on this. Clerk mr. President , we would take Public Comment first. Supervisor walton president yee, i had questions. I hate to ask twice ahead of your motion. I had a clarifying question. I dont want to vote no on your motion without a little bit of clarity. I mean, i can move forward, and we can thats fine president yee no, no, go ahead, supervisor walton. Supervisor walton my question is i support no to concurring with the curfew. If i voted no just by myself, then that would, in consequence, basically be saying that we have a now end date of saturday, correct . President yee madam clerk . Clerk i would say yes. It would take one member to not approve these items, and then, the item would not be approved. In order to approve, the vote threshold is unanimous. Supervisor walton and then, the result is if we decided to meet thursday, if one person voted either way, it would still mean saturday is the end date . Clerk if, on thursday, you voted no, it would mean that the motions do not pass and saturday is the end date. Supervisor walton thank you. President yee supervisor preston . Supervisor preston yes, to follow up to the City Attorney. What is the soonest date we could continue this to where it would not have an imperative item . So for this to not be an imperative item, it would have to be a noticed item, and i believe madam clerk spoke to the earliest date that she could notice this, so i would defer to madam clerk on the noticing requirements on how quickly she could get a notice meeting scheduled. Supervisor preston madam clerk, i [inaudible] clerk in order to get it into the newspaper, and to have the newspaper run the article for 24 hours, we would need to get that notice to the newspaper by thursday. And then, it would depend on what time the meeting would start, start. I believe it would be a saturday meeting. Thats the quickest we could notice a separate meeting other than recessing todays meeting and continuing these two items to 48 hours. You could also continue it for 24 hours. [inaudible] clerk thats correct. Right. So essentially essentially today, the president could introduce the item, and normally, we see Something Like that go to committee or, if its noncontroversial or a commendatory piece, its able to go to the Committee Section of the next tuesday board agenda. But that would be, again, tirs item on that agenda, so again, its unanimous. President yee are you okay, supervisor preston . Supervisor preston yes, thank you. President yee okay. Supervisor ronen . Supervisor ronen yes. So the only thing that we could have done today is reject it unanimous. Otherwise, no matter what we do today, its going to expire on saturday. President yee yes. Supervisor ronen but youre saying that maybe by thursday, therell be a unanimous opinion, and so thats why it would be worth continuing it to thursday . President yee yes. I was trying to collect everybodys comments. Supervisor ronen right. President yee theres support to have this emergency order last longer than saturday, and we did nothing, it would last until saturday. Some of the colleagues felt maybe thats too long, and if, in that case, if i had to vote today, i wouldnt say stop it earlier than that. So if we were to meet thursday again, because people were asking, well, can we have a daily evaluation or at least every two days, and im thinking too myself that, its been calm somewhat, and maybe two more days, were finding that the rest of the bay area is also calming down, i could easily switch over and say yes. That was my thought. Otherwise, were not going to get there any faster. Supervisor ronen got it. I understand. Thank you. President yee youre welcome. No more comments on the motion, so if you want to vote on the motion, roll call, please. Clerk im sorry, mr. President. We need Public Comment on this. President yee okay. Public comment, please. Clerk operations, can we queue up the Public Commenters, please. Operator yes. We do have a number of commenters. Clerk so callers, if you are in the queue, and you press starnine president yee so before we do that, madam clerk, im going to declare that the Public Comment right now is for what . Clerk Public Comment on both the concurring and the proclamation for local emergency and the establishment of the curfew to meet the local emergency and the fact that you are continuing recessing the meeting and continuing those two items to 48 hours from now. So we should say a time certain well throw out. I know that supervisor mar has his 10 00 g. A. O. Meeting. Hopefully, it will end by 2 00. Supervisor mar, if youre not fine with 2 00, let us know. Supervisor mar that should be fine. President yee okay. Thank you for the clarification. Go ahead with the Public Comments. Clerk okay, operations. Operator hello, first commenter. So my name is francisco decosta, and you should be ashamed of yourselves, and ill tell you why. I often say really this city needs an incident management commander to know about the issues that theyre talking about, especially in this imperative agenda. Some of you supervisors who dont have your heart in the right place, if you all want to challenge some authority or some regulation by being headstrong, then youre not supposed to be a supervisor. Step down and go somewhere else. And to the police chief, you need to get an Incident Commander to give the board of supervisors an orientation. And i tell you, the president has already sent a couple of ships our way because this is not about some molotov cocktails, no, no, no. This is getting to be nasty. And so the president of the United States is aware of that, the attorney general is aware of that. But from stupid board of supervisors in San Francisco, im saying, this is bad for the city. Thank you very much. Clerk thank you for your comments. Welcome, caller. Yes, thank you. Are you giving three minutes as it says in the agenda . Clerk youre getting two minutes, mr. Warfield, and im starting your timer now. All right. I just wanted to clarify that. Clerk all right. I was hoping to speak on general Public Comment, which i think youre going to still have, is that right. Clerk thats correct, and im starting your time now. Thanks very much, and in this case, i appreciate all of the hard work and efforts of all involved in having a very extensive conversation about whats going on, and in this instance, trust to our supervisors and the administration. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next caller, please. Youll have up to two minutes. District 6. Id like to say that i sat here for two hours to apparently hear that sftv is going to continue to run the city of San Francisco and the board of supervisors isnt apparently allowed to exercise any authority over it. Sft sfpd needs more tools, when we already dont know the tools that they have. I would like to know how many times theyve hit people with pepper spray. People in the city, having nowhere to go, trying to move around, exercise their rights. Sfpd is continuing to exercise their rights to put people in danger. Frankly, im just frustrated that apparently theres no way to have any oversight over what curfew orders sfpd and the mayor put in place from our elected officials. It doesnt really seem like theres much point in attending City Government meetings and supposedly having some kind of input on what the government does when the cops and the mayor do whatever they want regardless. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hello . Clerk hello, we can hear you. Great. Ill start now. Hello. My name is celina, and im a student at ucsf. Im also a member of the science policies of ucsf. We are a group of students, faculty, and staff. Im calling in as a member of staff and as an individual, asking you to exercise your authority today. Make no mistake, the curfew will disproportionately affect people of color. Police will use their discretion, they will use use of force, and it will effect black and brown people. People have the right to protest and to exist but what i want to talk to you today is about how its affected black and brown Frontline Health care workers and scientists. We have already had people reach out and voice that theyre scared because of the increased Police Presence and curfew. Theyre afraid of being stopped by the police. It does not matter that theyre headed home in accordance with the curfew. Every interaction and rightly with this fills them with fear. Several white people recognize that our interactions with the police is much different. And while mutual aid and helping your colleagues is nice, its different when the city fails. In the last month, both sheriff and police were wearing thin blue line vests. You cannot give they are more discretion and more tools. They are not capable of yielding them. I ask that you recognize the systemic racism built into s. F. Policism. We cannot criminalize as exercising free speech as the police are trying to do their jobs. Clerk thank you for your comments. Hello caller, next speaker. My name is gabriel markoff. Im an attorney and a sevenyear resident of district 8 in San Francisco. I saw a video of 50 to 100 police surrounding a group of a few dozen protesters in front of city hall. Second, i saw my wealthy white neighbor who walked his dog at around 8 30 p. M. , 30 minutes after curfew was in effect and came home 30 minutes later, totally total totally unarrested, and thats what this is all about targeting people of color and young people who are trying to standup what it means to be an american and do it in the face of the Brutal Police force that never gets held accountable. All they do is create more crime by criminalizing lawful activity. What happens when police are focused on chasing and arresting them . Getting lots of overtime that budgets cant afford, that allows criminal looters to commit looting in other areas of town where the police arent looking. All because it might help stop some looting or it might help keep people safe. This is the kind of thinking that war monger george w. Bush started in 2001 and ended with donald trump declaring martial law in washington, d. C. If the police cant stop a few minor incidents of looting with their budget, we need to reduce their budget and find other ways to fight crime. You can stand with the people and reject this unconstitutional curfew. Do the right thing. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments, sir. Next speaker, please. Hello. Can you hear me . My name is brook ashton. Im a student at San Francisco state university, and i want to thank police chief scott for his dedication. It must be very difficult to do a job the nature of which is the problem at heart. I want to speak today just to one comment he made, that people are afraid. We are afraid. We are afraid of you. Ive been at the protests the last two days, and i can tell you what was scary. Peaceful protests, Police Driving up in vans at excessive speeds, and unloading from their cars, the van, to protect the bank. It is aggressive, and that is what is aggravating, a Police Presence. Theres plenty of scholarships by people who study riots, crowd behavior, and in particular, i will quote something from a b. B. C. Article i read. A professor, clifford scott, from Peel University in u. K. Who has studies riots for many years, and this is a commonly understood scholarship about riots. They are a product of indactions largely to do with the nature of how police treat crowds. I would just repeat that the stress of police in riot gear was aggravating. Thats what made it scary. I was there. Thank you. Clerk thank you 23for you comments. Next speaker, please. Welcome, caller. Hi. My name is eric coller. Ive been a resident of San Francisco since december 2018, and i just want to say that it shouldnt take a week for me living in the city to know the violence of the sfpd and what actually keeps us safe. Its not a curfew. There was a black man shot at 4 00 a. M. Underneath my window. I woke up to cops screaming, stop or ill shoot. He wasnt armed, he wasnt doing anything. This is why people are out. This is why people are protesting. You dont need a curfew to stop it. A curfew isnt going to stop it. Its going to make people even more angry and depressed. It is going to continue, the riots. A curfew only gives the police opportunity to oppress with impugnity. You have a chance to set the example for the rest of the country, defunding the police and funding housing, education, and welfare in this city. It is disgusting how much we spend in this city on policing and all it does it make the oppressed even less safe than they were. Please defund, abolish the police. Listen to what people out there are saying. Thank you. Clerk thank you, sir, for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hello, can you hear me . Clerk yes, we can hear you. Welcome. Thank you. Hello. My name is joshua. I live and work as a designer in district 6. My supervisor is matt haney. Hes doing an excellent job of engaging with his community and listening to our voices, unlike some others. I would like to add my voice to this discussion. Curfews are the tool of the oppressor. I agree with the others that the protests and protesters do not scare me. The police with their loaded and lethal weapons, that is what is terrifying. This is a civil rights issue, which you say you care deeply for, but your actions say otherwise. It is clear to the people of San Francisco that our elected officials that support a curfew care more about Property Damage than civil rights. This is one of the deepest rooted problems with our unbalanced equality in San Francisco as a city. It has been a top down issue for decades now. Living to all of you, theres a clear distinction listening to you that say that the violence comes from police and those of you that are saying that people are keeping people safe. They are not keeping people safe. We must reduce policing, not expand it, especially not indefinitely. Also, bringing outside officers in is not the answer. It adds insult to injury that costs taxpayer dollars, that were paying for this. We would better use this money to house homeless, build safe injection sites, provide p. P. E. A Police Officer cannot know who is working or who is homeless by driving by them with the mindset that they must detain anyone who was violating a curfew. Innocent people are targeted by this bias. This is proven by the numbers released as of yesterday. Clerk thank you, sir, for your comment. Next caller, and welcome caller. You have up to two minutes. Hello, supervisors. I am a resident of district 1. This curfew is nothing short of fascist collaboration with donald trump. Seeing things such as vandalism, looting, all it does it give police Carte Blanche to arrest anyone and everyone they want. By chief scotts own admission, all of the vandalism were entirely cleaned up by the next day. Every protest ive ever attended thats turned violent is because the police have instigated the violence, tacking without provocation. If you want to [inaudible] fire the police who murdered alex nieto. Disarm the police who use chemical weapons that are banned in war time but permitted to be used on our own citizens. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Welcome, caller. You have up to two minutes. Hello. I support chief scott for several reasons. Unless youre going to pay for all the looting thats occurring in San Francisco, you are coming up with no recommendations on how to keep the city safe. I hear all the protesters that are stating that the police are the problem, but truly, law abiding citizens arent the problem. The people who have intent of looting and committing criminal acts, that is the problem, which actually jeopardizes the safety of all. The supervisors, i ask, unless youre going to pay for the looting and the damages, you think strong and hard about how youre going to make the city safer. Irregardless of supervisor ronen reading a book about what happened in 1992 and preaching about the Fourth Amendment, its safety that were talking about. Supervisor preston, your bias of equality of sensorship and attendance, that is ludicrous. So supervisor walton president yee excuse me. Be sure your comments are not directed to any supervisor in particular. Thank you. You must think about the the people that youre trying to serve. Clerk thank you for your comments. Are there other callers, operations . Operator yes, theres still a number of callers. Go ahead. Clerk welcome, caller. You have up to two minutes. Hi. Can you all hear me . Clerk yes, we can. Welcome. Excellent. Howdy. My name is norm. I live in district 3, and i want to thank supervisors matt haney, hillary ronen, and dean preston for speaking up. You all are asking the right questions and breaking down the conflicting statements from the chief, which i think are uncomfortable and unsettled. I think we need to defund the police and find ways to commit to investing in the black community. A Competent Police chief can speak to the numbers of People Killed and what was happening and giving answers to the reports that they are reading. He says that the violence starts with the protesters abu violence, and thats not true. You cant have off

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