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SFGTV BOS Rules Committee July 12, 2024

About 50 of our building is unemployed. As a finance manager, i just want to point out that the landlord investment model hinges on the fact that youll be able to meet your mortgage. So to the landlords talking about recovering represent, youre being heartless in a recovering rent, youre being heartless in a way that im not sure you understand. Fob landlords and investors, financial balance is something that you plan out. Its profitandloss statements. Its real, but its not going to put you out on the street and maybe kill you, especially if youre like one of the black and brown families left in San Francisco. [inaudible] between living in a car or living on a street or moving out to tracy and commuting into the Community Like people that i know. T this is legislation to try to help people through this crisis; this is a step. I just thank you to the board of supervisors and thank you for hearing our plea. Thank you for keeping us safe so we can figure this out together. Thank you very much. Clerk thank you, caller. You have two minute to speak, and two minutes to speak, and youll hear that your line has been unmuted . Has my line been unmuted . [inaudible] my name is steven crest mulverson, and i own a 500 unit building. Like many other Small Business owners, im hurting. Were at a deep moment in our country where the most vulnerable among us are under attack. By the most vulnerable, i refer to landlords and other people who own property and make money off that property. We all know that poem that starts with, first they came for the landlords, and i said nothing because i wasnt a landlord. This legislation would divert landlords attention from the important tasks of Property Management, namely requests for maintenances, and deciding arbitrarily whether people should own or not own pets. I urge you to listen to the landlords who are speaking in opposition to this measure and not to the many people who are facing difficulties in this situation. I urge you to side with the landlords and not the people by voting no on this measure. Thank you. Clerk thank you. We have 132 listeners with 62 in queue. Thank you. Next speaker. Hello, caller . Hello . Clerk hi. You have two minutes. Okay. Hello. My name is emily, and i work in the south of Market Community action network, and i strongly support this ordinance. I am also a renter in San Francisco thats facing the staple struggles, and i can always tell so much of what my family is going through. Even before this pandemic, renters in San Francisco were already struggling to make ends meet. We were having difficult times finding ways to cover expenses, and some of us are still working in the middle of all of this, which is a high risk that were willing to take, and you know, the risk goes on. These are just a few examples of a situation that we did not ask for. For us, eviction will lead to homelessness and put us at a higher risk of getting sick. If you are against this ordinance, the question for you is why do you choose to make policies and take advantage of a deadly Global Pandemic that already killed thousands of peop people . For the privileged mom and pop landlords, were not saying you dont matter, but your focus should be on the most vulnerable in your community right now. You can always put that money payment in your pockets once things get better, but you cant bring back a human life who suffered from covid19 because you decided to take away our housing rights in the middle of an ongoing pandemic. In rough times like this, we all deserve better. We want your compassion, empathy, and we definitely need genuine support. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes. Hi. This is gabe gothman, and im a resident in district 2. Thank you, supervisor preston, for your legislation. I think its the least we can do to help the most vulnerable during this time. I think landlords are being a little miopic here. Evictions will lead to further unrest and decreases in property value. I do work with finance, and its not a job to own a building or property. Its a source of income for some people, but its an investment, so youre not even providing a good or service, really, youre just making money off of your own money that you invested in a building, and so if youre having trouble making money because just of a small delay in payment with an entering of a megacrisis much worse, quite frankly, than the great depression, there are other things you can invest in. You can sell your property really at no cost, and you can recoup probably hundreds if not millions of dollars from the sale of your property, and then, you can invest in bonds that are tax free. Some of them, for example, you can get from municipalities here in california, and that way, you dont have to worry about covering your incentives or worrying about maintenance or other things related to a billing. But if you dont want to sell your property, should you have some compassion to people that could live on the street and, you know, have nowhere to go. And especially, someone mentioned children earlier. Its devastating for incredibly young people to be sent out to be homeless and to not have somewhere to live. Clerk thank you. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes. Hi. Can you hear me . Clerk yes. Yes. Hi. My name is sylvia. I am a Property Owner, but im also i own two units, and after that speaker, i just want to let you know, we all live in an ecosystem, and rules like this can have really devastating unintended consequences. I i want to make sure everybodys safe. I actually love my tenants, but my tenants make more money than i do. I have to take Mortgage Applications all the time when i see people in rent controlled apartments that own units, and in fact both my tenants own other properties. But you know what . Weve got to concentrate on whats happening with covid, but some of the comments that have come here, really, they dont understand financing. You know, freddy and fannie flooded the market, and then, anybody that wanted a loan could get a great rate. If youre high balance, which is this part of the country, you cant get cash out or very, very, very expensive. You own a property thats free and clear for 1. 2 million, and baby, you better be ready to pay 15,000 to take any money out of that. All i can say is the infrastructure im afraid for the infrastructure of california. I think that supervisors should take a cut. It should come from the city. Weve got to help the tenants. Lets get their rents paid, but to go after 88yearold women, which, you know, is my mother, whos a landlord, who can barely walk, and then have tenants who make her take out the garbage, you cant say anything to them, thats the positions were in. So i think landlords are very afraid. You know, i want to be compassate, but i just think this is the wrong way to go about it. I think its a lie, and i dont have 600 for a lawyer, or the tenants are the lawyer, and thats what they charge. Every time you go to the rental board, they go, go find a lawyer or find somebody who mak lawyer to fight somebody who makes more money than you. Weve got to figure out a way to help people pay their rent. My suggestion is why dont you try low interest loans . In hawaii, they introduced the mongoose to get the rat . The mongoose was killed, and the rat got the relief. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, youll have two minutes. First, i want to talk about a legislation that must be passed. This is a complete no brainer from a practical and moral standpoint. A bunch of evictions are coming, and we cannot afford to throw a bunch of people in the middle of the street during a Global Pandemic, full stop. Not only is it completely immoral, its going to produce huge costs, both financial and to the landlords, grow up. You guys are babies. Grow up and stop being such sociopaths. Not only did dean describe that youre going to get some relief that you dont deserve, it just stops you from evicting, which is a gross thing to do, any way. If you have that much problem, youre awful at running your business, and you should stop doing it. If you cant budget for a few months of potential lost revenue and operating costs, then youre bad at business and you should get out of the game and sell to your renters or something. If you want to make yourself whole, stop glomming onto the right to evict tenants during a Global Pandemic, and stop evicting people out of their right of a place to live and get a real job. Thanks. I yield my time. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hello, caller . Ner next speaker, please . We have 148 listening with 48 to speak. Hi. My name is robert, and i live in district 5. Im very happy to see this bill from supervisor preston. I think this is the kind of leadership that i want to see from think elected representative. I think its ridiculous that landlords can say that they need every single month of rent in order to be made whole. I mean, if you are really so strapped for cash, you can always sell your building, which is probably worth a few Million Dollars, and i imagine that would put some pennies in your piggy bank at least. If you are a 90yearold person, and you want to evict people, i think thats probably really a mark of who you are. If you want to evict tenants, you probably should not be a landlord. You should probably sell to someone who wants to take care of your tenants and do the job properly. It shouldnt even be the case that landlords can make money by not having a job. Its its crazy that this is the world we live in. Its crazy that its crazier that since 2012, San Franciscos real estate has gained 280 billion in value. Thats over 300,000 per resident, and its not going to every single resident in San Francisco, its only going to people who own property, so i think this is the the tiniest ask that we can give to landlords, asking them not to evict tenants when their land is increasing billions of dollars each decade. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Again, public caller number is area code 4156550001. Thats 4156550001. The access code to join is 1454836716. Press pound, and pound again. Thats 1454836716. Press pound, and pound again. Press starthree to lineup for Public Comment. Itll take you have raised your itll indicate you have lined up for Public Comment. When your line is unmuted, you will hear your line is unmuted and youll have two minutes to speak. Thank you. Next caller, please. [please stand by] they have to pay profit tax and they work hard to get their house and support us. They have a house and im enjoying my life and i will continue living in this house and i will pay my landlord and i dont support the district 5 proposal for the 237 indiscernible . The proposal from the district. Im appalled by the comments by landlords and this is once again pitting tenants against the landlord expose they should be working together. Thats what i try to do with my tentants. This will make it difficult as a property opener to try to keep up with the maintenance cost, the utilities, the property taxes and my own mortgage on my house. And i understand that a lot of people think, well, ok, if you have been a landlord for all of this time and you cant make a go of it if people dont pay their rent for awhile, then i should get out of the business. And i guess thats probably what will have to happen under these circumstances. I dont tend to evict anyone but foreclosures of these properties will also cause a huge displacement of tenants and they will not be evicted by me but by moneygrabbers who will come in and swoop these buildings up and they wont be good landlords. Thank you for your comment, next speaker, please. We have 135 listeners with 55 in queue. Hello, caller . You have two minutes. Hello, ok, thank you very much. Hi, supervisors. Good afternoon. Im a resident of district 5 and first, i just want to thank you for all of your leadership during this time of crisis and in particular, i would like to thank supervisor preston whose leadership has been truly extraordinary. Im calling you to urge you to unequivocally pass this legislation. The covid19 pandemic is an unprecedented human tragedy that will have devastating impact on our city and the rest of the word for the foreseeable future and people with disabilities, people who are black, indigenous and who people of colror are disproportionately affected. These communities are vulnerable to housing and security and further loss of wealth during the pandemic, given the dispro fortudisproportionate losses ane Racial Disparities in the security pandemic. Even before covid19, the pandemic struck, many people in San Francisco struggled to pay their housing costs, utility bills, food costs and afford medical care. Economic hardship result hardshm the pandemic falls on people of color and indigenous, especially our latina community, people with disabilities and, again, families with children. The covid19 pandemic has exposed a structural inequality throughout San Francisco and the United States. Roughly 568,000 people experienced homeless last year in the u. S. And black people make up 40 of that total. Despite being only 13 of overall population. Of particular concern, people who are undocumented. Please do everything you can thank you so much for your comment. Next speaker, please. Your line has been unmuted. Hello. My name is sam judge and im a renters in district one. No one should lose their housing due to a pandemic. We shouldnt be placing people in vulnerable situations in a Global Pandemic. Thank you for your time. Im chelsea merick and im speaking on behalf of myself and mmy colleagues. Were a nonprofit legal service. Were also district 9 renters and strongly support this legislation. Nothis pandemic has affected everyone. No one should become homeless because of it but that is what will happen if we continue to threaten renters with eviction for an economic crisis out of their control. Supervisor pretsons proposal was necessary to keep San Francisco residents housed not only through covid but in the wake of it. Next week, your line has been unmuted and you will have two minutes to speak. Majority of the people i work with and some rely on help for work and its not enough. We support this legislation because we know that its needed in this city that is very expensive and we cannot afford any more families to be on streets because they cant afford rent, not because they dont want to pay but theres to work and no set date to go back to work. It just takes eviction off the were able and this is the most important step they can take after the state of emergency. Thank you. Thank you, next speaker. Youll have two minutes to speak. Hi, you have two minutes. Ok. Thank you. I saw a pos indies indiscernibl. PrompProperty Owners and the Property Owners need the income to support themselves and maintain their property. They avoid paying any rent, even if they are able to. indiscernible . Please do not sacrifice the small Property Owner. We cannot take any more. Thank you for your comments and next speaker please. Youll hear that your line has been unmuted. Hello . Hi. This is lynn and we own a small hello . Ready . Yes. Im lynn and we own a small twounit property in the Mission District and i urge the supervisors to pause on this legislation, which is extremely onesided and wait until you have determined the appropriate protection for the landlord. We cant go get another job and this unit is our income. By having to forgive rent and not be able to collect rent for the foreseeable future, because there is no timing that we know that the covid crisis will be over, i wont be able to pay my husbands medical bills for his Cancer Treatment and the maintenance expect utilities and the property taxes associated with our unit. And i think that this legislation is great if youre a tenant and can devastate you financially if youre a landlord. And our family has worked extremely hard in order to have a building that would give us income during our retirement years. Were both high risk and cannot get another job. So i urge the supervisors to step back and come up with a much more bad legislation that has a deadline in it and timelines so we dont have something completely openended which means i may not have any income for the foreseeable future. Thank you for your time. We have 13 139 listeners with 4n queue. Next speaker, please. Hi. Im a San Francisco native and other than of an older fourunit Apartment Building built by my immigrant grandfather and its been in my family for generations. Its my understanding the city does not have Legal Authority to permanently restrict a landlords ability to recover rent due. That said, i am fe fervently against this ordinance. Small businesses are trying to survive and trying to continue the legacy. I am not rich and i take offense to so many people that have spoken today saying were all rich. Small Property Owners are victims and its not favour to carry the burden because no one is helping us pay expenses we incur on a daily basis, paying tenants and security deposits, not to mention attorneys fees, just to name a few. Im working with my tenants who cant pay their rent but im worried how ill pay my pastdue bills if they dont pay me back. The city isnt helping me pay my pastdue bills. Its not fair to put the burden on us once again. Dont meddle until you can help. This will be lost if you pass an unrealistic and unfair ordinance. Thank you. Thank you for your comment and next speaker please. Theres 43 in queue. Hello, caller . You have two minutes. Hi. Sorry. Thanks for giving us time to speak today. I strongly support the eviction protection ordinance. Im a renter in district 5 and a paraillegal at Legal Systems for the ederly an ederly. The Economic Impact of the pandemic will be so much longer than six month. We cant expect tenants who have lost income because of the pandemic to

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