Thank you. And commissioner williams here and we have quorum and conduits is if attendance a attending remotely today and next the land acknowledgement. Good morning can you hear me . Yes, we can hear you. Okay. The best Case Scenario the best Case Scenario we are on unceded ancestral homeland of the ramaytush rahmytoosh ohlone olonee who are the original inhabitants of the San Francisco peninsula. Irresponsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. Ramaytush ohlone community and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. Thank you. On the next members of the public who may be listening in the left hand call in number. Phone number 1 415 6550001 access code 2662 497 4269 to raise your hand, press 3 next. 2. President s opening remarks. Good morning, commissioners director and members of the public. First congratulations to commissioner sommer on the birthday of youre a baby laughter the golden meeting were going to nominate the subcommittee during the directors report have an extended duration and cover the finances and the budget timeline and our augment finances as well the policy and questions around the fee study and the authority. So that will be an extended opportunity um, to discuss finances in a more broad sense. Were going to talk about the reforms and returning to the equally reporting on the reform and this is, you know. Part of our civic duty with the congregation one of the importance we as the department. Um, we are pursuing the litigation for the glass. With the possibility action. I want to make a comment without revealing more of a personal issue. There there was an incident where a member who received a notice of violation sent scary that messages to the staff member that is in the tolerated i want to send a clear message this department will not tolerate that ever. And on that note we have a lot of really great work to to do today, i want to commend the staff for all the work into the commission and look forward to continuing the great commission. Thank you. Thank you. Is there any Public Comment on the president s opening remarks . Seeing none, have remarks . Seeing none, have item 3. General Public Comment the bic will take Public Comment on matters within the commissions jurisdiction that are not part of this agenda. If i remote Public Comment . Any seeing none, next. 4. Discussion and possible action to appoint commissioners to serve on the litigation subcommittee. Um, currently the interim president president alexandertut is a member we have two vacancies. Anyone who is volunteering to serve . Can we share how often the subcommittee meet. Sort of the obligations attached to this opportunity before we go through the process. Can you also talk about like the chair in the meantime. multiple voices. sure. Okay. So i sent everyone emails so everyone is aware. The litigation subcommittee in general members of Litigation Committee hold the closed session meetings and the members review the Code Enforcement services and have compliance issues and dbi staff has reporters and going for further action to the City Attorney and this Committee Meets every oat mow own the fourth tuesday of the month and in case a scheduling conflict but every other month that is when the Committee Meets and yeah, so thats oh, and multiple voices . Chair so there are can be an election of the chair at the members first upcoming meeting we need three members at each subcommittee and before people have kind of taken the role of chair but not officially formalized that but will be at the first meeting. And any other questions from the commission about the process . Basically for this people what volunteer um, to if fair share interested in serving or someone can suggest someone or vote for Something Else to serve but accept thank you, up to them to accept it. Ill volunteer for the litigation subcommittee. Thank you. Is there another. Id like to volunteer for the litigation subcommittee. Thank you. Is then be a mission to nominate president alexandertut, commissioner neumann and commissioner williams as a members of Litigation Committee. And to that appoint those members motion to appoint those members to have the subcommittee. I make that motion. Thank you. Do i have a second . Ill second. Who. Second. Okay. Thank you and notice Public Comment on this motion . Seeing none, ill do roll call vote. President alexandertut yes. Commissioner chavez yes. Commissioner neumann, yes. Commissioner shaddix yes. Commissioner sommer yes. Commissioner williams yes. The motion carries unanimously congratulations to the members. And next, we have um, and next, we have um, item 5. 5. Discussion and possible action to appoint commissioners to serve on the nominations subcommittee. And ill read a little bit about this subcommittee in general members of the nomination subcommittee hold open session where the members meet to address vacancies or appointed to subcommittees overseas and those are the board of examiners and the Code Advisors and the Code Commission earlier this year they metaphor the aa c, however, still its been a long time coming. Vacancies and the subcommittee will be needed sometimes when that members are nominated ill reach out to you at a date and time that works for all to meet and currently commissioners commissioner neumann and commissioner sommer are on the seldom i possess a question if theyre both interested in continuing to serve and then we can see about other volunteers or appointments. I im happy to let go of that seat if Something Else want to be nominated. Commissioner sommer are you on to continue to serve on the subcommittee. Im happy to continue to safety officer. Thank you there will be two openings. And also just i want to put that out there this is a Good Committee for commissioners to kind of newer commissioners to get their feet wet and the Committee Meets not on a regular rescheduling basis whenever theres a need to reappoint members or to fill vacancies and, you know. It can be up to 4 times a year. 7 times a year, etc. Commissioner shaddix. Id like to volunteer for the nomination. Thank you and anyone else . I volunteer for that. Okay. Thank you. So there will be motion to appoint commissioner sommer, commissioner shaddix and commissioner chavez to the nomination into. Is there a motion . I motion and second and okay. Theres motion and second. Is there any Public Comment on this motion . Im seeing none, do a roll call. President alexandertut yes. Commissioner chavez yes. Commissioner neumann yes. Commissioner shaddix yes. Commissioner sommer yes. Commissioner williams yes and. Okay. Motion carries unanimously and next item 6 before i read that the same thing applies upon the first meeting of nominations the members would be elected members would be elected for item 6. Discussion and possible action to create a housing Code Enforcement subcommittee, and to appoint commissioners to serve on the subcommittee. Are those two separate actions one following another multiple voices . Deputy City AttorneyCity Attorney kapla to discuss what the housing request for the subcommittee that is a bye committee and has to vote if you establish one and then appoint members. So i would like to propose we create the housing Code Enforcement subcommittee that looks like trend and things happening in the heirs with the intention of creating housing recommendations and protecting the rental housing. And anyone have any questions about that committee or nothing like that anything like that. As commissioners are clear on that then the next motion to make a motion to establish a seldom there is motion by multiple voices . Can i ask some questions. Okay. Within our i understand wanting to go more in depth but talking about the housing improvement like a regular report i just want to understand a little bit more clearly what we hope to get you understand maybe the key parts of housing; right . But a little bit more clarity. Yeah. Absolutely. There are um, part of this we dont know going into a committee exactly; right . If it was a clear either the three policy 350iz on the agenda so more exploratory the commission is more exploratory like discussions we received on next most folks trying to move in the community more codes around elevators and anticipating the next round of the code what i call it had they redo the code. Yeah. Thank you. The next items for the next cycle i dont think that is a monthly meeting. I dont expect to see something where were holding codes Something Like that but more something to establish guidance as related to the new cycles and an opportunity to explore the impacts on policy. This is a i would like to have the intention be open for the creation of the new ideas based on what is happening in the Housing Division and to explore suggests that are coming from other places. Okay. And also commissioner if you were done with your commissioner commissioner sommer had a question as well. Thank you go ahead commissioner sommer. And thank you. I was curious i know the Code Advisory Committee has a housing through the microphone distorted subcommittee. Uhhuh. Is this um, two Different Things or microphone distorted ive never joined that meetings i dont know. My understanding of the subcommittees housing Code Committee theyre theyre reviewing existing items and then sending them to bic for recommendation. And this will be a fixed committee that has a different general and where my there be gaps in policies or codes. I dont think. multiple voices. and i dont think the taxes are extensive thats a great way of that explaining it. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any other further commissioner questions. Yes. Not so much a question but clarification. What ive heard with the proposal this new subcommittee less to do with code or creating policy about Code Enforcement because with any code is codes only as good as it is enforced and part of our duties as commissioners to oversee housing Code Enforcement and to me this subcommittee whereby responsible for examining policy and making recommendations to the Large Commission here on the policy for Code Enforcement and having to practice what is happening in the housing enforcement and seeing areas we can improve. Im like if im understanding correctly that is what the division at the outset of this subcommittee will vet is that correct . So without crossing the line in the Personnel Matters yes laughter i want to you know. I think three the as it relates to the broad interpretation of policy i want to our job not to direct staff and we can get clarity in the City Attorneys Office Making sure were everyone in that committee is clear about that line but the policies that effect the Code Enforcement are part of the policy um, responsibility of the commission so ill consider that part of committee but i dont imagine a subcommittee that is kind of managing staff doesnt make sense. Not a managing subcommittee. Commissioner. So im open i wonder if we can have a design timeframe which this committee is together and been evaluated unintelligible . So i dont know if it is something were allowed to do multiple voices . City attorney kapla you can define the scope of the subcommittee but cant delegate i understand this is a place to explore and learn bringing up policy chancellor white and brought to the bic the supervision for the director and their actions as a whole and the question was cola were allow to have a pause on the committee that the committee will run for a set duration and we decide whether or not. multiple voices. and yes. You can determine what charge you want the economy to have in the administration. Okay. Commissioner chavez. I think that is exciting to explore the housing im curious whether this would have been a benefit like the last couple of years on this commission of your time give an example. Um, i can think of an example a member of the public is circulating what is on the agenda next month well see that the idea for changing the housing code around elevators. Elevator mandates and there is a lot of people that are a lot of potential, you know. Both for the impacts on that and it um, there is not a sponsor for it yet one of the places where you can have a larger kind of more exploratory conversation versus like the entire bic meeting you dont have that or, you know. Dont want to have the same agenda items every month; right . To discuss in realtime and that is an example of smog before this subcommittee will be helpful. Deputy City Attorney kapla ill probably as an example cross enforcement from the title . More broad base not just about retrospective for bic to explore an area you want to go into that is an area for multiple voices . That makes sense. So any further questions or discussion on that . We need a um, motion to establish the subcommittee and with deputy City AttorneyCity Attorney kapla guidance of changing the title to housing just housing code so a motion to create housing code subcommittee . I move. I would like to motion with an amendment we have a saturation of one year for the subcommittee. When it is the deadline for the next code cycle years out. Can we do 18 months. City attorney City Attorney kapla the housing code is not on our cycle so for San Francisco we dont get a california based housing code we have to change. In the San Francisco has not what . The rest of the code to the Building Code existing Building Code are on a three year cycle and theyll adopt and make changes and publish a 2025 and meet with adopted for use for the first day of the 2026 and so it is youre saying San Francisco housing code is not own on that cycle. We dont have to adopt and reppo or adopt it and we can do it any time. Yes. Is that the motion. multiple voices. to reestablish the subcommittee. See if a value before we add an ongoing committee. Ill second that. Thank you and. Okay. So the motion by commissioner neumann and seconded by commissioner chavez to establish the housing code section maybe and the duration for one year. Um,. multiple voices . 18 months. Correct. Okay. All right. Any Public Comment own that motion . Remotely . Okay. Good morning this is with the s l cooperative thank you for todays meeting and wanted to say we port is the housing code subcommittee for the support for the housing inspection at the bic and for the Code Enforcement equity. Thank you. Okay. No further speakers . Yeah. One further. So with the proposed combination date the 18 months will be thats what the proposal is, i dont see the purpose of that because there is nothing that will prevent this if it is wait of Time Resources and whenever we determine not effective so i think building in an Expiration Date is an opportunity in the future for to lose the intention and focus and to adhere and if there is an Expiration Date im concerned will be concerned we want to have the resources and effort if were assuming that is, you know. An 18 months will go away why bother . I see that quite the opposite were forced to reexamine in 18 months and explain to essentially focus that time to make sure we are sort of making really strides so the work is done. I think that is important to have those things and mechanisms we are examining what is were doing and it is this ongoing thing than it we dont have the meeting time kind of no audio a ad hoc i dont see distinction . Worthwhile with that subcommittee to be created and your position an Expiration Date we look at this what is the difference between this subcommittee and a new subcommittee. We are establishing and have not clear on exactly what the goals are here call that different from the other ones done an exploratory case if you peace officer it not be an expiration but instead be that we all agree that in the 18 months have to reexamine that rather than assign that period we can disband this committee then. I would yeah it is just anatomy future the commission will examine the subcommittee that will be very acceptable to me ill be more rewill you please tell to support a sunset date but in the future that is very helpful. It is sort of semantics but at that time you can say lets keep going; right . Im fine either way but want to talk about what we have accomplished via this committee we can keep going and adding more. I dont know how. Unmute yourself. laughter so we have a one thing not on the list is the clinic subcommittee we actually have kind of an annual; right . Were not filling that because the creator of that committee is no longer on the commission or the majority of the people not on the commission anywhere so a manual check. One of the comments i was going to make we dont have this committee we want to fill or let it go we have an opportunity to say, you know. This committee does seem to have a purpose and we fill the nominations so it is manual. Um, process; right . We can say, you know. To the