Sf gov. Tv if we can go to the view chamber, please. Hang on just a moment, something is happening. Yeah, were good. Good afternoon, this meet willing come o to order. Welcome to the march 4, 2024 of the land use and Transportation Committee of the San Francisco board of supervisors. Im mirna melgar, joined by supervisor peskin and dean preston. The Committee Clerk today is john caroll and i would like to thank sf gov. Tv. I apologize for keeping my mask on, i have a cold. Clerk please ensure that you silence your cell phone and other Electronic Devices that you brought into the room today. If you have a speaker card, you can drop off your completed speaker card in the hopper that we have up front. Public comment will be taken on teach item on todays agenda. Line up to speak along your righthand side of the room. Ultimately, you may submit comment by writing, you may do so by emailing me, or you may send your written comments by u. S. Postal service to your office in city hall. Thats the Clerks Office from 244 and city hall address is goodwin, San Francisco california. If you submit Public Comment in writing, i will forward comment and also include your comment as a part of the official record for the file on which youre commenting. And items are expect today appear on the board of supervisors on march 12, 2024, unless otherwise stated. And ill call item 1. Item 1 is ordinance amending the planning code to require continual use authorization for establishing Parcel Delivery service uses. Planning code section 101. 1, i have information that this may be send to tomorrows board meeting. Thank you very much, mr. Clerk, we are joined by connie chan, the sponsor of this item. Supervisor chan . Thank you, i just want to remind my colleagues that we had extensive discussion last week and thanks to your support, we amended this legislation with the resident tro active date stated on page 15 on this ledge tation that will expire on march 8 and will be making permit retroactive then. With that said, i would like for to youed to consider to duplicate this file with additional amendments. That is also before you on page 7, the line 1 on the impact on institutional we discussed this last week as well. And then, on the same page, line 15, including but not limited to Artificial Intelligence and Autonomous Vehicles driven. Also discussed last week, would like for your consideration, again duplicate the file today and make those amendments and then continue the item to the call of chair so we refer back to Planning Commission for further discussion. Thank you. Thank you very much, supervisor chan. President peskin. Sure, just friendly amendment to the original file prior to the duplication which is my understanding the inter prim controls expire on march 309ing, not the 8th, so i would make a friendly amendment which i believe to be non substance i have to change that date to march 30th. Okay, did you want to make a motion. Im happy to make the motion, ill make the motion to the original file that is before us and then we can vote on it after Public Comment and then we can duplicate the file and make the other two amendments after we send presumably the first file as amended to the First Committee report. Thank you, so we will take Public Comment on this item for the folks that are in the chamber, i do intend to call item number 5 early after this, just so you know, i know that folks are waiting for that. But lets have Public Comment on this item now. Thank you. Clerk thank you, if you have Public Comment on agenda item number 1 relate today car sell delivery service, ill start your timer now. Speaker good afternoon, chair melgar, vice chair peskin, president preston. The teachers were here last week expressing our support and this items have our support. These important to ensure that San Francisco has the right tools to face the fast delivery industry. This has been a Group Efforts and addresses concerns from labor, environmentalist and the local community. President peskins amendment is crucial to ensure that there is no gap between when there is no gap when the Parcel Delivery interim zoning controls end and when these new controls begin. Thank you again, and we ask you to approve this legislation. Thank you. Thank you so much for sharing your comments. Do we have anyone else who has Public Comment on item number 1. Please come forward to the lecturn. Thank you, with that, Public Comment is now closed. President peskin has made a motion. I have a motion from supervisor peskin to amend the agenda item number 1 to move the retroactivity date from march 8 to 24. Aye. Aye. Aye. Chair melgar. Aye. Clerk madam chair, there are three ayes. Motion passes. And then i would like to, i will duplicate that file and i will make a motion to send the first file as amended to the full board with a positive recommendation as a Committee Report. On the motion offered by member peskin that it be membered as Committee Report. Vice chair. Aye. Member peskin. Aye. Chair melgar. Aye. Clerk na ma dam chair, there are three aye sxz now a duplicate before the committee. Thank you very much. Congratulations supervisor chan. As to the duplicate file, i will make the amendments on page 7 to sub d, relative to the educational institutions and to sub e sub 1 relative to employment analysis that add the language included and Autonomous Vehicle driven in ratio of human operated as activities as requested by supervisor chan and ask that file be continued to the call of the chair while its rereferred to planning. On the motion offered by member peskin, that the duplicated file be amended and then continued to the call of the chair, vice chair. Aye. Member peskin. Aye. Chair melgar. Aye. Madam chair, those motions are both three ayes. Thank you so much. Thank you supervisor. Okay, mr. Clerk, lets call item number 5 out of order, please. Clerk number 5, thank you. Agenda item number 5 ordinance amending planning code density Residential Commercial and residential transit oriented neighborhood commercial and certain named neighborhood commercial districts except for specified lots located in the priority equity geographies. Thank you so much mr. Clerk, we have audrey here who is going to present on this. Weve gotten a lot of interest in this and i want to thank my colleague, president peskin for his attention and thoughtfulness on these issues as well as supervisor mandelman who has brought up issues repeatedly about the position of density decontrols and the upcoming up zoning that we are planning plan to go do in corridors all over the west side. I think it behooves us to be careful to reach what we all need to do which is to create more housing particularly on the west side and in high Resource Areas while at the same time, preserving. You know, what makes be San Francisco wonderful. So with that, i will, oh president peskin, i know has amendmented that he wants to propose and would like to make some comments. Thank you, madam chair. And first of all, let me just thank my two colleagues on this panel who have i think with thought and deliberation and public input improved a number of pieces of legislation, some of theme introduced by the mayor, some of them introduced by various members of board of supervisors. And as a threshold matter as we have grableed with everything from for plex legislation to supervisor housing opportunities special use district, our own local Density Program called home sf, the 100 affordable and Workforce Housing programs, i think we have gotten them right. And when we have made mistakes, weve gone back and fix them. As a threshold issue, in virtually each and every one of those pieces of legislation, building above base zoning, base density, we have been able to further a San Francisco policy that has existed since the 1970 and has been remark reably successful and has allowed people to have longer affordable tenures in their residential units called rent control or rent stabilization, and that is very consistent with pretty much everything that this committee and this board of supervisors has done and that our mayor has signed into law and that is precisely what i think this legislation can benefit from. Im rather taken a back that this would be considered to be a poison pill. Im rather taken a back that rather than having a robust and mature policy discussion that that is becoming part of the politics of thebut its election season its expected. Although i must comment if i had time to spend not at this committee today, it won be denouncing other figures, it would be campaigning for a measure of that would build thousands of units that will hopefully pass tomorrow w. That, im happy to have this discussion i think these amendments are in keeping with the work that this committee has done, that is really sound in improving housing policy. Thank you, president peskin. This is what i would like to do if you would allow me, is duplicate the file before we amend it and keep it in our back pocket. Because luke Everything Else weve done in the committee, part of it is going to be negotiation, the legislation that were dealing with in sacramento by the gentleman from san diego. Alvarez. Yes. Its still new, were still trying to figure out how this affects our landscape so i would rather keep a clean copy just in case, we need it, we may not before we amend it. And then, we will refer back whatever we amend to plan to go work on it some more. I do think, that there is so much that we have to do to comply with the Housing Element and doing a deliberately and with Community Input is the way to go. I do also want to thank you, supervisor melgar which is that we have to be careful about not piece mealing this and having issues about preservation is important and where its less important, are what economic and transportation impacts are having, that conversation collectively, i think is much better Public Policy than doing it piece meal so i really appreciate your comments. Thank you, im a cosponsor of this legislation because i believe in it. I think that having density decontrols where its appropriate where you can incentivize more units being built is a good thing. We just have to be thoughtful about the where and when and how it inter acts with Everything Else which is why im willing to give it a little bit more time. So with that, lets bring up ms. Marroln. Speaker thank you, Planning Department staff, we have presented at a previous hearing but im happy to say that the commission and the Planning Department believe this is a very important step forward in equalizing the Housing Department in this city. The ordinance will allow for greater density that are rich in transportation through a form base density approach while ensuring areas vulnerable to displacement are not part of a sweeping change. And just to reiterate when the commission did hear a previous, they voted 42 with the modifications that is before you today. Thank you. Thank you, ms. Behrloany. Okay, so if there is no other comments or questions from my creesing, lets go to Public Comment on this item please jao. Thank you, madam chair. If you have Public Comment on agenda item number 5, please line up to speak on your righthand, your lefthand and come to electriclecturn when youre ready. Speaker jake price with the housing coalition, im proud to be the in coalition with the Carpenters Union against the amendment thats have just been introduced. If you are a car pender in the room, please stand up. Its praofp to add housing stock. Its part of our Housing Element commitment and to add to housing capacity as part of our rezoning program. Amendments that need cap its affective particularly the use of density bonus are contrary to our commitment and risk certification and add further complications to the citys rezoning efforts. We are asking that the committee pass the original legislation to the full board without additional delay. Thank you. Clerk thank you for sharing your comments. Next speaker, please. Speaker good afternoon, supervisors james natoli, im the San Francisco organization for nembi action, speaking in opposition of the amendment and also that the legislation be passed as was originally proposed. We know that form base density is a tool that will allow us to build more homes throughout San Francisco especially in neighborhoods that i live in like the richmond where we can add more density without adding more height, and we know there are opportunities there. However, we do not need to saddle it and make it more difficult with too many requirements. We dont need to be afraid of the state density bonus. It is helpful, it is something that we should consider. It is something that we should not be afraid of when were looking at more homes in our neighborhoods and yet this is another example where were shrinking from it. Were hoping that we will get to a good place where as i noted, we are passing this as it was originally proposed. I think supervisor melgar for her work on the Mayors Office on the and thats what we would like to see today. Clerk thank you for sharing your comments, next speaker please. Speaker you know the laws much better than a lay person like myself. And i trust you guys to make these decisions. I just ask on behalf of me, if you guys decide that this specific place is not right for more housing, please allow it somewhere else, because we really need housing. I believe we need housing to keep my friends and family from leaving the city. I trust yall, thank you. Clerk thank you for sharing your comments, can we have the next speaker, please. Speaker good afternoon, chair, members and San Francisco community. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak today about the things that is going on. My name is clay im a union carpenter. I know we need affordable housing, its hard to pay for housing even if you get a one bedroom, its really expensive you can get your own one bedroom apartment. Any policies that allow more housing to be built in San Francisco that include labor procedures, or we should have it in our city. We need it and, whatever we need to do for it, we should try to. Thank you for having me and yall have a good day. Thank you for sharing your comments to the committee. Can we have the next speaker, please. Speaker calvin chair of the neighborhood council. The board of the council to testimony in favor of supervisor peskins amendments. Let me start by saying that if density was the answer to affordable then the two densest cities in the United States would be the two most affordable cities in the nation. That would be new york, and San Francisco. They are in fact, the two most expensive housing markets in the city. So clearly, there is something wrong with the notion that the market will somehow discount how Density Development and make it cheaper overtime. That is not been the history of neither San Francisco nor new york. Nothing in the original form of this legislation, means to additional affordability. It is astound thating an assertion can be made that the mere provision of increased density results in less, in less expensive housing. In less local governments stipulate that in trade for hire density there is higher affordability, then, we are where we are. Thank you. Clerk thank you for sharing your comments. Next spearer, please. Speaker good afternoon, im a senior representative with carpenter local 22 here in San Francisco. The carpenters you see us a lot when whenever housing comes up. And thats because what we see is a real crisis for our members who have been forced out of the city for decades because of housing shortage because of the astronomical costs of housing and what is left just tremendous exploitation in the Residential Construction industry so. We moved hard and moved fast to work with state partner to work with mayor breed and others to build real lasting state legislation that will allow us to middle class folks for folks who are building the housing, should be able to live in the housing. We did that, because too long too many games were just being played around housing politics. And its time to stop with the games so. We urge with our partners inhousing coalition to move this legislation forward without the amendments to stand up for Union Construction workers, lets gld b ld some housing in San Francisco with union members. Thank you. Clerk thank you for sharing your comments. Can we have the next speaker, please. Speaker good afternoon, georgia, i was in the room 400, the day that the planing commission passed this 42 and there was no no awareness of any idea that this could have an unintended consequences. Thats why its important that the file is duplicated and the amendments are considered and discussion is furt