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ALJAZ Inside Story September 6, 2022

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Loss in griffith whos in somalia says hes been shot to the core by the suffering, and theres only going to get worse. Extreme drought caused by for failed rainy. Seasoned at the space, millions of somalis, roches invasion of ukraine has made staples such as grains and cooking oil on affordable and political instability has hampered humanitarian efforts. The group out about frequently a tax relief convoys. Us has received just 2 thirds of the 1500000000. 00. It needs to provide immediate assistance. We want the world to observe, to listen and to contribute to. And many, many governments has United States government recently, very generously gave money to the humana response program. We need more and were going to need more through text yet. Life saving, which is the core of the humanitarian business, is what we have to do today in somalia. No question about that we need to save lives lives which are at great risk, but or, and we need to invest in alternative livelihood. So many of the pastoralists, family generations of living off their livestock have no more animals. They have lost their livestock sold or died from the drought, and the likelihood of further droughts will mean that they wont be able to pursue that way of life if they have had the generation. So what were seeing threatened to the horn of africa as well as elsewhere, but particularly here in the own is a way of life is under a threat. And that means we need to invest in people for an alternative. I went to a site for internally displaced people and by the people have been there for 9 years, 9 years that they have been displaced. And we have still not been able to give the alternative ways to live and to live independently of humanitarian aid. Its a massive requirements for international attention. Over decades, somalia has struggled with civil war, political instability, and famine. In 1991 warlords, ousted president sidebar, and then turned on each other attempts at peace or several interim civilian governments. 319912000. After bob has been fighting Government Forces and African Union peacekeepers for control of the country, the group still operates in southern and central somalia. And now in the midst the dry conditions in 40 is you an estimate . 7. 8000000 people need humanitarian assistance. Ah. Okay, thats bring an odd guess than in mogadishu is jerry l. Me, executive director of the Heritage Institute for policy studies . Thats a think tank in somalia. Joining us from da for in sudan is Michael Dunford. The world food programs regional director for Easton Africa and in bristol, in the u. K is the salma gene or research associates, the London School of economics and coal for of famine in somalia, competing imperatives, collective failures, welcome to all of you. If you are a, if i could start with you because its in parts of southern and central somalia where, where this threat of famine is, seems to be looming, the largest, what are you seeing and hearing happening in these areas . Well, i just wanted to add my voice to the human, a pity coordinator. And by the way, this is really what this was come in for quite some time. While the community has been working and also the Somali Government for the bus 3 months that it existed, it made one of its 1st few decisions to raise awareness of this running problem. So at the moment that we have to just focus on rescue and as many people as possible, simply because it regional level where its about 2 or at least the countries about to declare fineman. And i think later on than we can discuss this has been a ways or the long Term Solution is for now, all the efforts on all the thinking has to focus on saving as many people as possible. So its an emergency situation. Just just give us a picture of what that looks like on the ground. Well, i mean there are combine nation factors here that actually is affecting everyday life. There is the, the conflict thats going on. The countrys side. We have you know, the, the, the panoramic that has had serious effect and also the 5 season is a brain was actually short supply. So we have a number of factors that have affected the vulnerable communities and the people who are living outside the big cities as well as the beast and people who are already living under the buffer line. So the whole so called resilience factors that are out of the way we are in a situation according to the people who are working in the humanitarian sector, where everybody who can do and how should, how and i think he had a baby. Maybe i should just emphasize the role that the, the gulf countries and other places come come come play because there were books in me. I mean its, its, i mean, they can amik or at least like we were, we will definitely come in to National Response a little later, the discussion, Michael Martin griffith you and him un humanitarian. She said that he was shocked to the call. Bye bye. What he saw, but that his concern is whats happening to the people. He didnt see the people he didnt have access to. Do we know the full extent we know the full picture. I think we have a very good sense of the situation today. But as modern indicated, access to the population is extremely challenging because of the insecurity because of the role that else above plays with in somalia. I would say 2 weeks ago i met many of the beneficiaries that you saw on your player. And it really is heartbreaking seeing people who have been forced to walk from their homes. The day i even met a woman who was for 20 a day 7 children to try and find humanitarian relief, the world food program, the scaled up dramatically. But the problem is that despite the warning sign that we had, the funding has been slow to arrive and only now a we hitting our peak level of operation. And i fear were going to have to continue to grow that response to meet these needs. The value of the human humanitarian sheath you in human turn, she again, he said small is one step away from famine. When you looks at the last famine in somalia, back in 2011, you found that the us had called it too late and that the response was the full too slow. Do you see the same thing happening again . Yeah, i think theres no doubt that you can say the same again way. In fact the, myself and 3 colleagues who did the work on the Famine Research on time. And in 2011, 12, it put an opinion piece in elgin, or actually in january of this year. So at least for the last 6 months, if not for more than that time, weve been raising the possibility that theres going to be a famine in somalia. We cant necessarily say that the famine itself has been called too late because this recently been a Technical Assessment and theyre predicting that the famine may take place in the last quarter of this year. But thats in the way sometimes were playing with semantics here. The situation in somalia is already horrendous, and a lot of people have died already. And this has been going on for many months already somali communities from around the world for at least the last year. In many places have been raising money and sending money to their relatives in different parts of the country. And we also know very much where the most effective people come from. Because they predominantly come from certain identity groups, certain population groups in Southern Somalia that with predominantly the victims of famine in 9192 and in 201112. Im frankly, the humanitarian system is also must take some responsibility for not having called for more resources and, and look for more resources earlier when we raised the issue in january, this is even before the ukraine crisis, which is clearly taken away from funding possibilities, the amounts of money that were talking about also need to be put into context because they are miniscule in comparison with the amount of money that was raised for in response to the co bid and damage and for the crime crisis at the moment. So theres not way, its not really a question of there was a need for more fund but, but in the end this is also about the political will, both from the Somalia Government side as well as from the International Community. And that should have been an acting over 6 months ago. The cost also by osha bob is an interesting 1. 00. Moment let me just get a response from michael on that point that you raised that humanitarian groups have not called for resources early enough on these call should have been made 6 months ago. Michael, whats your response to that . Im inclined to disagree. Weve been cooling and making it absolutely clear that we needed to move far in excess of the beginning of this year. We were talking about the risk of famine because of the drought. Well, in the middle of last year, we knew this was coming. I agree, however, that the International Community has been slow to make the funding available to allow wealthy program and others to scale up. You know, april, we were only feeding 1700000. That was purely because of a lack of funding. We are now at 4. 5 because fortunately, the u. S. Government particularly has come through the level of the funding require boss. We need another 327000000 just to get through to the end of the year. This is a huge population. As a result, it requires a huge amount of funding and i agree that other donors need to step out. Ok, i fear i, what was your take on this . Do you think . Why do you think the response has been so slow . Well, i think that our other international practice, actually the ukraine crisis was one of the main ones that so molly and other countries in the home were actually the attention of the International Community. The dont want to be particular shifted to a to other other context. We have, if you will be in war, we have other major, i mean, political events that were taking place in the continent. So that has overshadow with the somalia christ. Im 2nd, i think the other fact that here is that this became a recording problem where us, it just happened every few months. If you, yes, im in that there is some sort of fatigue from the donor respected, but that doesnt justify people or die. And now, and in fact, so the credit of, of them and one of their credit, the decision is of the president or was the man or to appoint some i mean an invoice that raises the profile of the issue and theyve been trying their best. So that ever they can, but again, this is the matter of priorities. Donors just focusing other areas. Absolutely. I mean, thats all thats, thats true, isnt it . A big problem here is dont fatigue. And, you know, means international organizations, theyve got to be careful about continuously asking for money asking for more more more when theres lots of other things on the world stage happening. Do you think this now is the wakeup call that the world needs for somalia . As a no, even Refugee Council has said, what do you think people are already awake and simply ignoring it. And i think people are ignoring it. I mean that the f word, the famine word is always very evocative, and therefore it can help to raise attention and mobilize fun further. The problem with the word is that its already late by the time that its announced. So yes, it may help to alleviate the situation or make it, or contain the situation to some degree, but that degree is where we already have a catastrophic situation in many parts of the country and where we also struggle to reach people. I think thats the other issue is that yes, more resources needed, but we have also myself and colleagues have also pointed out that more could be done with existing resources where in particular we have difficulty and weve had difficulty for the last 10 years to reach many areas of somalia and with constrained to working in certain centers. And so thats been theres been a great stagnation around any kind of access, not just humanity area and developmental as well. And thats going to remain the case. And its something that we, weve raised in 2014 actually in anticipation of the potential for famine and these kinds of disasters that one needs to be talking to groups like how should bomb early on in the crisis. They all, they have their a pervasive presence and they have a very well established and have been so prob, attending in michael new experience. How does the wsp access these areas that are controlled by groups that are not the government its challenging, it really is. There are a number of areas that have the siege where we are forced to fly commodities in that adds dramatically to the cos. What were finding at the moment is the populations are increasingly moving toward centers where we are even able to access them. And this is why weve seen such a large number of the 1000000 people displace because of the conflict. Its challenges of access, a very real in somalia today. All of us as dramatic very, and actors are struggling with it. But we are eager to ensure that to the extent possible, we are able to reach the beneficiaries before they need to move. And so issues of access negotiations with the various parties is key to us being able to do appear i. One of the critical points that allow for a fun in to take place to occur is the political failure of the leaders. Weve got some, all is new president declaring all out war on al shabba, particularly after it attacks the Popular Hotel in mogadishu. Is that the right approach given the situation . Is it not better at this stage to be declaring all out negotiations . Well, i think this is not either or situation in general. When it comes to government is for the consolidating its power. I think it will employ both strategies. Sure. Force as well as negotiations. And i think due to the normal i on on record say im calling for negotiations, but i understand that normally when a given state is consolidated, get spouted. Also use some sort of salt or force. I think that thats just a different issue. This is stage at the moment, i think, or what, but as an talk that did was, even, i mean, before the government was appointed, he appointed you monetary and invoice that the raise, the profile of the issue. Understandably though some, some oddball. Attrition is, are concerned that if sometimes you know, just wanted to f or family to use it, it might shift all the Development Sector its might shifted to the release. And this has been a concern that some politician is, has been expressing this when i made them. But all, i think what we are now facing, the level of understanding of the government level is, is fine, but their, their, their capacity is limited and thats why they are calling for the International Community. When 7100000 people are facing some sort of, i mean hunger, i think this is everything has to focus on saving as many or as many people as possible. Yes, we have to Pay Attention to the Institution Building later on. We talk about longer term info infrastructure, and all of these things now will come. The debate will come of the later stage. This at this moment, i think micro griffith and others are actually raising the the flag and saying, lets try to save as many as me, people as possible. I agree with that, and i really hope that the countries that are close like the other countries and also will play a role. Now the heavy lifting is being done by the somebody else. But anyway, who are sending whatever they can. But what is needed is much, much more than this. Ill ship out, but we get control. So much of central and southern somali does

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