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ALJAZAM Consider This October 24, 2013

Degree murder. Clean was found dead where she thought. The student was arraigned on wednesday. He will be tried as an adult. The Community Held a candlelight vigil. Family and friends were joined by parents and students. Many struggling to cope, come to grips with the lots. Fire broke out in an oil refinery in lamont, illinois. Witnesses reported loud explosions. The fire is now under control. Those are the headlines. Consider this is up next. Remember you can always get et the latest news online at aljazeera. Com. Hunting the nightmare bacteria. Hundreds of americans are dying from diseases caused by germs that cant be fought with 18th biotics. Antibiotics. One of the n. Star refers, Brandon Marshall, will talk about his struggle with borderline personality disorder. Wing suit flying, what drives athletes to drop from huge mountains with no protection. Creeping up on us for years. Antibiotics credit saved hundreds of millions of lives since they came into wide use, antibiotic superbugs are threatening to roll back that progress. The world health organization, things as common as strep throat or childs scratched knee could once again kill. Antibiotic resistance is one of the most serious threats we face today. According to the,s 23,000 people die because of these infections in its 117 page record released last month the cdc counted bacteria and fungus that cause the overwhelming majority of drug crins in the resistance in the country. These called cre, ive called cre a nightmare bacteria it can resist all antibiotics, spread from person to person and bacteria to bacteria readily. Cre is still relatively rare causing 600 deaths a year but researchers have identified it in Health Care Facilities in 44 states. There have been warnings for years about antibiotic infections but theres not been much of a public outcry and hasnt gained traction like hiv or cancer. The pharmaceutical industry has taken its concentration away from developing drugs for germs. Courtney keely al jazeera new york. Seen online at pbs. Org and joining me from tucson arizona is dr. Sean elliot, medical droarks of infection prevention, he is featuring in hunting the nightmare bacteria. Thank you for joining me tonight. I want to put the issues into context. It is the story of an 11 and a halfyearold girl taken to hospitals after hip pain led to a fever and the symptoms of a virus. The person you will hear speak is addies mother a former nurse. I remember thinking she looks bad, something is bad, something is really really wrong. They put her on antibiotics. Her Blood Pressure was dropping and they were making space in the icu for her. The next morning she needed oxygen via mask. They looked at part of her lungs and diagnosed her with pneumonia. I remember sitting there watching the sun come up. And thinking how did she get so sick . Ow did this happen so fast . Dr. Elliot to answer the question, her mother posed you treated adie. How did she get so sick . Addie had a form of resistant staph infection causing septic shock. This grows very quickly, releases toxins, in the heart and lungs causing pneumonia. In her case she had a simple innoculation if you will from playing sports from her skin to the bloodstream and the bacteria took off like a shot, stopping every organ system she had. Shes very struggling . Shes still struggling. She had to have a Lung Transplant from gram negative bacteria she contracted at the hospital. The pharmaceutical firm as tr astrazeneca, if we dont have new antibiotics and have a vibrant new stream season soon we are going to be in trouble. Why we dont have a pipeline coming out can you address that . Sure. I think very clearly we have a golden age of antibiotics. In the 50s and 60s many dozens were discovered. If some of them stopped working, new ones came along. We overused them, a lot of this adds to the tide of what were seeing. Some of the Biggest Pharmaceutical Companies realize that if they were going ohave to invest 1 billion in a new drug, that would take ten years to develop, they would have to look at what kind of return would they get on that investment . And drugs for chronic disease, a drug that you might take for the rest of your life promised the industry a much higher return on investment than antibiotics a drug that if properly used you take shortly and then after a short course youre finished with it. So they began to move out of antibiotic research and development toward these big blockbuster drugs for chronic disease. And the pipeline is really running dry. And part of the problem you highlight is the government just hasnt taken this seriously enough. There is only one Interagency Task force that meets once a year. You know when you think back about other Big Public Health crises weve had. Hivaids or even biodefense after the an anthrax letters, we do have a tradition of stepping up. After the work we have done on this film was, why hasnt the government stepped up to this one . This is a crisis that the cdc says is leading 23,000 deaths in the United States, thats more than hivaids yet we dont have the same kind of response. You highlight a terrible case that happened at the National Institutes of health itself right in the federal governments backyard. Dr. Elliot Astra Zenecas dr. Rex said another, finding something that kills bacteria from one point is easy. But what doesnt harm you at the same time is a whole other matter. Is that the problem, we have all these bacteria that are resisting the existing antibiotics that the antibiotics that are used to kill them would mess us up with the side effects . Thats very true. As antibiotics mature in response to nature, which changes, in response to pressure, the side effects are dangerous. We had to use a glorified detergent with had further potential to kill her kidneys. Adverse effects are a major limiting factor as are the resources to empower drug discovery. Talking again about dollars and cents. This week Johns Hopkins released a study that said the farm and animals ilt quoted the fda in, 80 of the antibiotics are used to treaten and fatten up the animals we use for food. We dont want them used in farm animals because that leads to more resistance to antibiotics that basically the Biggest Profit Center for these Drug Companies is selling these antibiotics that go to the farm animals. If they cant make money there then it really doesnt make any sense for them to be developing antibiotics. Dr. Elliot. That is very true, it is a dollars and cents issue. It is a for Profit Institution and if we could remove that need to make a profit then potentially we could focus on altruism. This is the number one or number two killer in the rest of the world, it is not just the u. S. That has a problem. Dr. Brad spellberg which specializes in treating Infectious Diseases says the u. S. Is having a terrible time tracking these diseases. It is embarrass that we dont know where infection is occurring. Who uses what antibiotics when. Europe doesnt have any trouble doing this, why dont we know where this is happening in what hospitals and how many cases there are . We dont have a National System for surveillance for a lot of these organisms and infections. When i mentioned before the government hasnt stepped up on it, this shs item 1 on their agenda. The europeans have done so. We know we have a problem we should do something about it. Dr. Elliot, addie got her infection as you say presumably playing sports, scraping her knee. Do we think that hospitals are the most likely place to get them . Thats true. Hospital he have a dense population of sick individuals putting a lot of others at risk for bacteria shared by patients. Some of the these bacteria live in the community but in general if one is healthy it is less likely for you to acquire true disease. Addies trouble was different she had mrsa, which could activate in a simple abrasion. Other gram negative bacteria come from the gut and it could easily be that somebody is in the hospital for another reason has those bacteria enter the bloodstream and then coat an iv or breathing tube and cause infection that way. It is easier to get infection from a hospital because thats where sick people are. David, is there a lot out there that cant be treated with antibiotics . Well the cdc record said 2 million are getting next gettins per year. Probably more. But the thing thats worrisome and that we saw with the research we did for this film on front line was these gram negative bacteria are starting to become resistant to our most modern last resort antibiotics, the ones that worked before. And that really concerns people because you get to that edge of life, to that desperate situation where you need something and theres nothing in the medicine chest. Thats the situation, people forgot what it was like before antibiotics came into play. What do you think washington needs to do to avoid that catastrophe that some people are talking about . David . Well i think the thing is to set up this kind of national surveillance. 11 out of 50 states are requiring sphaings, but that surveillance but thats not enough. There are times whether the private sector doesnt function, society has an Urgent Medical need here. We need a new generation of antibiotics. The science might be more difficult than the ones in the past. And the government could think about how to stimulate that research, maybe participate in some of it. Help some of the Smaller Companies that want to attack the list, find the capital to do it. And it seems to me that when we have a problem as a society and were not getting answers from the private sector thats the time for government to act. And i know doctors and patients can help out by using antibiotics in the proper way and not overusing them. David hoffman, dr. Sean elliot, thanks for joining us, an important issue that needs attention. Thanks. One of the motte Famous Players in the nfl has a private battle. Hee tell us about it. And the lgbt persecution in the community, and hermella aregawi, whats trending . Heavy internet censorship. More on that coming up and what do you think . Join the conversation on twitter gay rights continue to advantages in america and many other western countries. But there are 76 Countries Worldwide that punish homosexuality among consenting adults. Among those, 38 are in africa. In uganda, theyre considering punishing homosexualities. In a movie god and uganda. Something has a potential to destroy uganda. And it is coming from the outside. If we dont move fast i foresee a lot of death happening. The fire has already been set. And i think it is important to trace it back to where it is coming from. We are you now joined by the oscar winning director of that film Ross Williams and a former member of parliament, dr. Robert bukena. Lgbt persecution in uganda is very serious, has the Death Penalty for homosexual acts. It didnt pass but its come back to life with slightly in a slightly milder version. But still with life sentences for gays. Whats going on . Im not sure the bill was actually altered. Dr. Bukena can probably answer that question if the bill has been altered but i think the Death Penalty is still part of the bill. But whats going on is just as you said, execution of homosexuals, they become the scapegoat for a lot of theres a lot of issues probably in uganda, corruption. And so gays are an easy scapegoat. Is it really that, trying to distract from bigger issues . You know the american fundamentalist, scott lively, addressed parliament on the threat of homosexuality and he addressed it for a number of hours. He takes credit for really sparking the fire that started the bill. I want to talk about lively in a moment. You do highlight their role in this antigay sentiment put on the other hand they built schools they built hospital he and get credit for a lot of other things. So why has this taken such a why have they taken such a big role in this in eafnl africa . They feel frustrated that he have lost the culture war in america. As Marriage Equality has passed state by state, with the recent Supreme Court ruling theyre frustrated but they feel theyre winning in places like uganda, in the global south in africa especially. Dr. Bukena how big a situation is homosexuality in africa . Its equivalent to to the third rail, like social, you cant support gays, just like you try change social youre in big trouble politically. That is true oa certain extent. And the main case uganda is a back water state moving towards development. And in so doing so, such minorities, people perceive them wrongly. For example, tell you that in the 70s, 80s and 90s if you talked about a female genital mutilation, nobody would listen to you. But then when you talk about that very Important Group of females who have been undergoing that very barbaric action, things have been changing. Something would happen to the lgbts, they were not being organized as an important right to existence. But what is happening now in uganda, we are beginning to see it as a human right. The situation. And that it should not be discriminated upon. And that they are free in the only way. To do what they do. But takes a bit of time. Takes a bit of time. Because you see, we are completely bombarded by you know, whether christian interests, especially from the west, who come and tell us about the condemnation of such acts. For example, smooively myself i was condemned for condom use for prevention of hiv. My church would not are follow that, what is wrong with you . But i insisted. Now that its starting to come out very well. As Vice President of uganda in 2003 you praised the archbishop of uganda when he criticized the uchurch, you publicly denounced homosexuality because it was against the, as someone who is supporting the Gay Community in uganda . You have to think about this very, very very deeply. At that time we did not think about the Gay Community as a minority who has a right. But now when you look deeply in human rights you look at minorities who are refusing a chance to assemble, who are refusing a chance to be a religious group, to be what they are in their own human dignity. When you think deeply about the rights and the Minority Groups, you begin to see that there is a window of need to organize that the lgbt are just like any other Minority Group and they must be kept and understood. It takes a bit of time. Especially, as you know, even in this country. Many peoples rights were stampeded until time went on an development took place, people recognized the importance of those people. In september at the u. N. General Assembly Meeting the president of gambia said, its becoming an epidemic and we muslims will fight. In such strong statements and in such a public forum how do people in the Gay Community have a right to fight against that . We have to engage the progressive safe community, in america we have a separation of church and state. And a fringe figure like scott lively who went to uganda, basically said gay people wanted to end society which is crazy, hes allowed to address the parliament. For five hours. And interestingly, there has been a case brought against him in the United States for violating human rights, this is on behalf of gays in uganda. Arguable whether this is going to move forward but its under a special law that allows those cases to be brought in the United States. Yes, the cases of being brought by the center for Constitutional Rights on behalf of smug in uganda. And he tried to get that case thrown out of court and the judge said he had to stand trial. There was evidence percented to the Supreme Court and he agrees with that evidence. Many are anticipating that you are going to run for president in 2016. But an important antigay activist had this to say about lgbt rights. I want to warn the politician that if they dare to come and support homosexuality they are committing political suicide. If you plan to be president of uganda how do you respond to someone like that . Thank you very much. For the sake of the principles of human rights, which everybody yearns for, the rights to assembly, the rights to associate, the rights to organize the minorities, including the handicapped, the rights to stop mutilating female genital systems, should be also if same principle given to the lgbts. They should not be discriminated should not be a law that only attacks the lgbt because that would be a discriminative law over our population. So we shall go back to uganda and explain. For all those who are interested in human rights to the rights of my individual, the rights of my association, you must also remember that there must be rights for humidity dignity. And if human dignity. If im lgbt its my right. If im heterosexual its my right. If im a catholic it is my right. If im a pentecostal, its my right. And i want to appear particularly to the african communities that dont get absorbed by ultrareligious groups that come from the western countries, and to brain wash us on many, many issues. I was seeing god helps uganda, the in film, you are going to heal you and have all your disease s cured, and dr, we have to leave you, the documentary, god loves uganda. In theaters now. Thank you. Its time to see whats trending on ldges tonight. Hermella. Todays stories is about the web, its very meta. Designed to glorify Free Expression on the net. China queue ba and thailand, browse the internet in the way you and i can. The control of the information has always been a priority for the ceub ann ceu cuban dictatorship. I think the internet was the most important factor in the teun shah shahn revolution. Check out this, around t

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