Country. Im antonio mora, welcome to consider this. Here is more on what is ahead. We fully expect the russians to demonstrate their seriousness. Russia is a gas station mass car aiding as a country i apologise. Its a mafiarun gas station. Few people would say the immigration system is working. Its frustrating to watch obamas empty Prime Minister sis. If you can get over the border and stay long enough, someone will give you a pass. The number of americans who has signed up has grown to 8 million. It will not solve all the problems, theres work to do. High stakes diplomatic efforts to resolve the crisis in ukraine began. The conflict seems to be escalating. Three prorush sequence were killed when they tried to storm a military base in ukraine. Representatives of russia, ukraine, the u. S. And European Union met. They condemned extremism, racism, and antisemitism. Russians in the city of donetsk were told they have to register their groups. Secretary of state john kerry had this to say. In year 2014, after all the miles travelled and the journey of history, this is not just intolerable, its grotesque. Vladimir putin told a tv audience in russia that it had the right to use force in Eastern Ukraine, which he called part of new russia. At the white house president obama said the u. S. Was preparing new measures if the geneva agreement failed. Russias hand is in the disruptions and chaos that we have been seeing in southernEastern Ukraine. But, there is an opportunity for russia to take a different approach. Meantime we are going to prepare additional responses should russia fail to take a different course. For more im joined from washington dc by ambassador william courtney, serving for kazakhstan and georgia. Good to see you. The agreement calls for amnesty for protesters, for people to disarm and calls for other efforts to end the violence. Do you think it will help to deescalate the situation in ukraine . Its possible that it will help deescalate. A lot depends on the Russian Military to comply with the agreement. It calls for all sides not to use violence, but it calls for disarming illegal formations. Vladimir putin, in his press conference this morning, implied that russia was not connected to the illegal formations. If thats the case, then the kiev authorities are prevented from using violence, if you will, to crack down on illegal formations in their own countries. A lot depends on how it is implemented. He did admit that Russian Troops were involved in what happened in ukraine. Do you think theres the danger, as some said, that this agreement will buy time for Vladimir Putin to continue to destabilize Eastern Ukraine. He admitted that the Russian Troops had been involved in crimea, and the troops involved in Eastern Ukraine are dressed the same way, looking the same way. It hasnt taken responsibility for them. In some respects its an opportunity for russia to buy time. Russia overextended itself, overreached. Russia needs to find a way to deal with this. What they have done is caused n. A. T. O. To talk about moving forces eastwards. It caused capital flight from russia. Projections of economic decline in russia, and soon theyll realise that the kremlin lied to them about the way russians were treated in ukraine, they were never under threat. More money has flown out of russia this year than last week. As they were negotiating in geneva, Vladimir Putin said russias parliament had given him authority to send troops into ukraine. The question is it sounds like he is talking about planting a russian flag in a large area. It does sound that way. But its hard to tell from kremlin propaganda, in soviet times and since then. Hard to tell whether tough propaganda actually refers to an action that is going to be tougher, or whether its a mass car aid for weakness. Joseph stalin used propaganda to hide weakness. We really have to judge them by actions rather than propaganda. President obama still said u. S. So not planning military moves in ukraine. I thought i made it clear that military options are not on the take in ukraine. This is not a situation amenable to a clear military solution. And meantime defense secretary chuck hagel offered what sounded more like camping supplies to boost the ukraine army. Medical supplying, helmets, sleeping mats and Water Purification units, shelters, hand generators and pumps for the state guard service. What kind of message does that send to Vladimir Putin . Its a pretty weak response by the west. Its not just the United States, its europe as well. The ukrainians need antiaircraft weapons, not western, but are planning on the international market, a former soviet market. They need those weapons. If the u. S. Is not providing lethal arms, something that can help the troops, like night vasion goggles. One of the weapons was a militant group ordering jews in donetsk to register. The irony is the government has been accused of being full of neonazis. As you know, theres some issue now about the providence of that antisemitic activity, whether it was actually carried out by russian illegal formations or others. But it certainly is part of, in some respects, increasing zenno phobic tenancies, and that, in the last couple of years has grown, so it makes it suspicious that maybe the russian authorities were behind this. And president Vladimir Putin, in this long tv conversation took this clearly staged call from n. S. A. Leaker Edward Snowden. Does russia intercept store or analyse in any way the communications of millions of individuals . And do you believe that simply increasing the effectiveness of intelligence or Law Enforcement investigations can justify a place in societies, rather than subjects under surveillance . Vladimir putin jokingly responded to Edward Snowden as one former agent to another, that russias intelligence efforts are not as massive as america, and they are strictly regulated by law. In the world of messages going back and forth, what do you think Vladimir Putin is telling president obama. I think Vladimir Putin made a terrible make. In the west there was debate, in america, europe, about whether Vladimir PutinEdward Snowden was a whistleblower or a traitor. His appearance on the press conference caused a lot of people in the International Community to say gee, maybe hes more of a traitoron a whistleblower it unminds the credibility of the things Edward Snowden was getting done. So many issues, good to have you with us. Thanks. Thank you. Switching topics to immigration. Immigration activists condemned president obama as the deporter in chief. New numbers from the Justice Department showed fewer deportation cases are being brought to the courts, and as a result of court proceedings, deportations dropped 43 in the past five years. This tells part of the stories, because other departations soared. New department of Homeland Security jay johnson is preparing actioning that could further reduce deportations. President obama said there was only so much the white house could do alone to reform immigration. I think the system we have right now it broken. Im not alone in that opinion. The only way to truly fix it is through congressional action. We have tried to take as many administrative steps that we could. Well see if theres more we can do. Im joined by david leopold, former president of the lawyers association, and a reform advocate. Good to see you. You heard the president saying theres only so much that he could do, Congress Need to take action. Congressman of colorado, a democrat, told the washington examiner, that there are fixes in the next few weeks, and broader policy changes next year. What do you think the white house will do without having congress on board . The president is right. What hes talking about is a permanent fix, and the only people that can give the United States a permanent f to the broken immigration system is congress, and now that would be the republicancontrolled house. That is a point well taken. Theres plenty of things that can be done while we wait for congress to do its job. They can expand the deferred action program, the program that keeps the dreamers from being deported. It can be expanded to the parents and people who might qualify, undocumented people who would qualify under the various proposals for imagreeings reform that we have seen in congress. Doesnt that risk a hue and cry that might delay Immigration Reform further. Thats the issue, if the white house were to move and use proceed executive authority. That would largely, i think, the calculation is kill Immigration Reform, any possibility of Immigration Reform. I think there is, for this year, and there is a legislative window, and i think thats correct, the white house is correct in calculating that there still is the possibility that the republicans in the house will move Immigration Reform. The republicans need Immigration Reform as much or more than the democrats. They are granded with the growing lat eenio vote, a formidable vote that spanked the president ial candidate, mitt romney in 2012 with 20 of the vote, going to them. 70 plus going to the president. They need to win back the growing latino vote. There few signs to move forward. You talk about the republicans not using it in an election year. They were in a guncontrol situation. Democrats were not pushing background checks. They were concerned about electoral politics. Do you think theres chance an Immigration Reform will move forward. Ill go out on a limb and say yes. Immigration reform is an issue that has, in the history of this country, gone forward in election years. The last immigration overhaul was in a Midterm Election year. I dont think its impossible. It could happen now, after the republicans finish the prime rice. I think louis gueterrrius of illinois has set a deadline of july. Once the primaries have finished, and theres no attack to the right, they could consider Immigration Reform. That makes sense. The other option or possibility, i should say is that they could the house could bring up Immigration Reform in a lame duck session after the election. That may be another opportunity. The other thing to remember is that we do have a major crisis on the ground in the United States. People are families are being torn apart, and people arrested and removed from the country. American families are being split up. Mixed families. That has to stop. In that context you wrote that there is stonecold . Yes explain why todays report about the number of deportation cases in courts dropping, does not many that total departations have deportations have found. The report that came out of the New York Times talks about court deportations. Thats one aspect of the machine. 70 more than 70 of the removals, the deportations in the country are people that never see the inside of the court room. Its administrative, done by a lowlevel department of Homeland Security officer, at a border or airport checkpoint. These are people caught, and they find old order of removal from 10, 15 years ago, and those people are removed without seeing a judge. The other thing is how are they defining in their own the department of Homeland Security, how are they defining border crosses. They seem to have a broad definition, which are not necessarily included in the numbers, the 43 drop that the New York Times reported on. I think that we have to bear in mind that whale the while the courtroom deportations may be down. Court deportations are down, others are up, dramatically. Are both parties responsible for poisoning the issue. On thursday president obama released a statement calling for preform, saying it would boost the economy but then House Majority leader responded after the president called him, the white house calling it a happy pass over call, but cantor said seems like a lot of blame to go around here. I find it curious that eric cantor would be complaining about the president attacking. Putting that aside. Look, i think that both parties share responsibility up until 2012, nothing was done. After 2012, it was made clear that there was a platform of selfdeportation. The republicans were falling over themselves, speaker john boehner, eric cantor and others, to pass Immigration Reform. They said it would be a priority in 2013. We had a senate bill, a year ago now, taken up, and a year ago passed bipartisan, republicans and democrats. So the president indicated that he would sign that type of measure. The house of representatives offered the American People nothing but lame pathetic excuses since last year. First it was the first call crisis which closed the government. Then when the government reopened they couldnt put it on the legislative calendar. And now they claim they cant deal with Immigration Reform because they dont trust the president to enforce the law when Immigration Enforcement is at its highest levels in history. Today, as we speak, its the republicans who are largely responsible for the crisis, the Immigration Crisis continuing. Its them, the house of republicans that could stop it tomorrow by allowing a vote on a bill or a series of immigration bills. Its an important issue, david leopold, as usual, its good to have you on the show. If you are interested in that, the second episode, borderland airs at 9 00 pm. Friday, on consider this, we talk to do participates involved in that powerful series. Coming up, an obamacare milestone. 8 million registered. Many think its a prescription not a prescription for democratic vingt ris victories in the Midterm Election. And a man relieves himself in a reservoir and wastes 38 million gal jonls of trig gallons of trig water. If a teen can do that in a major city, how protected are our waters. Well its official. Xfinity watchathon week was the biggest week in television history. But just when you thought it was over. What now . With xfinity on demand you can always watch the latest episodes of tvs hottest shows. Good news. Like hannibal. Chicago fire. And bates motel. The day after they air. Xfinity on demand. All the latest episodes. All included with your service. Its like hifiving your eyeballs. Xfinity. The future of awesome. Seemingly confident that his Health Care Law is working president obama announce the that 8 million americans have enrolled. Proof that the law is working and obamacare is no longer a liability for democrats. I dont think we should apologise or be defensive about it. He tried to hammer home the message that obamacare is working. There are still no death panels, armageddon has not arrived. The debate over repeeling the law is over. The Affordable Care act is here to stay. The president cited the latest support car showing premiums were increasing at a slower pace than expected. Is this news enough to change public opinion, and are democrats ready to embrace the law before the Midterm Elections. Conventional whiches dom wisdom says its suicide for the democrats. Insurance companies denied me Health Insurance because of a preexisting condition. I have Health Insurance again. He fought the Insurance Companies so we no longer have to. For more we are joined from cleveland by jason johnson, an al jazeera contributor and professor. The dewait over rebeeling the law is over. The white house is going use fuzzy maths. Studies show a third or the also of 8 million. As many as 2 million will not pay the premiums they need to be counted upon those that are fully enrolled. One thing we argue and theres too less for it to succeed. What do you think . Coming the fall, it wont matter. What happens in midterms election is turn out and local issues. If you bounce around where the Affordable Care act is hurtful and harms people, it depends on the state. You have some that expand medicare. In virginia, they havent. And georgia, people are running against it. It will break down how local voters see the issue. That is a good point. As the president touted the c. B. O. Report forecasting lower than expected premiums and lower than expected costs. It will save 5 billion more than previously affected. It saves more. The wall street journal is saying that he shouldnt claim credit for the numbers, because the deaddress is because are decrease is because of fewer providers, and lower reimbursement rates. Again, is this really all good news. Its 50 50. The fact of a matter is the law is so flawed, it was never going to be good news. The president promised to lower cost and increase coverage. Its not clear as to whether this will lower cost. The white house will talk about the 5 billion, 6 billion. Many were saying, my rates went up, and i think it could make quite a few years. Of course, now, president obama is