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ALJAZAM Consider This November 16, 2014

What executive action hell take. The president will make the subject of immigration toxic for a decade. Tensions between israelis and palestinians. Violence is increasing. Both sides fear theres no end in site. Defenders of islam say it is peaceful. Others disagree. We are two or three examples to justify a generalisation, and it becomes easy to paint them with the same brush. A book that unveils a secret history. Many became u. S. Citizens, many honoured for their work in the United States. Your difficulties are due to alzhiemers. Theres no cure for the ryan stone cowboy, who is heading into the sunset. We begin with the Lame Duck Congress under way as republicans prepare to be the majority in houses next year. They are preparing for a new round of battles with president obama. The president continued an asian sweep on thursday. Back in washington. The Senate Majority leader in waiting Mitch Mcconnell says he was disturbed by president obamas moves on net neutrality, the environment and changes to immigration that could come as early as tuesday. I had maybe naively hoped the president would look at the results of the election and come to the Political Center and do business with us. I hope he does at some point. But the early signs are not good. In the house, Speaker John Boehner said all options would be on the table. If the president used his executive authority to allow as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants to stay and work without fear of being deported. Well fight the president tooth and nail if he continues down this path. This is the wrong way to govern. And the fight over obama care is heating up against as republicans get new ammunition from a former president obama consultant. Im joined from los angeles. Center fellow and resident scholar at the think tank, and professor at george mason university, also with us is al jazeera Political Correspondent michael shure. After the g. O. P. , both parties talking about getting along to legislation. I dont think anyone was surprised it took a week for both sides to head to the treftengs and get trenches and get into the battle it is already in. Yes, the truce lasted a week. No one expected it to last very long. Now on immigration things escalated quickly are some republicans of the house threatening to shut the federal government if the president issues an order that allows that postpones or caps else the deport cannes else the de cannes else the deportation of many citizens. Its a serious threat. Lets listen to what Mitch Mcconnell said when asked if they would shut the government down. We are not shutting the government down, threatening to default on international threat. We will not shut the government down, or threaten to default on international debt. So majority leader harry reid says he may not buy it, he asked the white house to delay an executive order on immigration until a spending bill passes to keep the government running. Michael, can the president keep putting this off . This is a very important thing for his base. Well, you know, this is not putting something off for months and months. He has a certain amount of finite period of time during which he can put it off. If it makes sense to put it off, until senator reid says, they are able to get the budget and the spending bill passed, it makes sense for him to wait. What the congress can do is say listen, we are not going to spay for it or approve a spending bill. Thats why it makes sense to do it. This is not going to be one of president obamas put it off. This will happen. Those are the threats coming from the republican side. They will not pos bills to allow the spending. Lets go on to another topic, the Keystone Pipeline of the the senate could vote tuesday. He is allowing it to help Mary Landrieu hold her seat in a Runoff Election in september. She was the sponsor of the bill. If it doesnt pass, wont it pass in january, when the g. O. P. Takes over. Thats right. It will pass in january, its a top piece of legislation. The president said he hasnt made a strong commitment. This bill, the Keystone Pipeline is no big deal. The number of jobs, maybe a few thousand would be temporary, and the extraction of oil will take place, whether it passes or not. Thats where the damage comes from, the greenhouse gases. The president would like to say its not a big deal. The fact is its a huge symbolic issue, particularly to the Environmental Community and Mary Landrieu, trying to represent an energyproducing state. Its symbolic. As bill said, not clear what the white house will do if Congress Approves the Keystone Pipeline, hes only vetoed two bills in his president si, do you think keystone will be the third. Hes had one house of congress for a while. He had the white house obviously in one house of congress, he hasnt had to do too much vetoing. It will start in earnest, and if you listen to josh ernest and the way he is hinting at this, it seems hell veto it at a certain point. Theres a couple of things that the president said you have to keep your eye on with keystone, one is a Nebraska Supreme Court ruling. The pipeline will go through nebraska. That is one of the things that hes waiting to hear on, as well as the state department study. They could be delay tactics, but things that the president takes seriously. 70 of americans support the pipeline, it will be a big issue going forward. Lets move on to obama care, Mitch Mcconnell said that American People want obama care torn out root and branch. Republicans have gotten very upset, and peble by a serious of comments. Made by an architect of president obama, jonathan gruber, and made the comments at a conference 13 months ago. This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure c. B. O. Did not score the mandate of taxes, c. B. O. s mandate is to build ice. Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. Basically calls for stupidity of the american voter. It was critical. He apologised, saying he was speaking off the cuff. But there are more tapes of him saying three other things. Do grubers comment about using deception to get obama care past, and calling the American Voters stupid, put Affordable Care act in danger . They rally the critics, and point the finger and use the sound bite 1,000 times. The fact is this is an academic economist who has contempt for politics. Who heard of such a thing. He has contempt for politics, the administration will distance himself, will to do damage, i dont think americans will revisit the political process by which obama care passed five years ago. I think they want to move on. They may want some things changed. I dont think they want the whole thing destroyed. The poll Shows Americans are split. Half the public wants it killed. About a third want is to be killed, a third improved or revised, and a third the way it is. Thats a division. It will continue for some time. Isnt it a big political problem for the white house. This is a white house that said it would be the most transparent ever. If people understood obama care, gruber says it would never pass. He said its not just voter stupidi stupidity, but the Obama Administration wept further and lied about people keeping doctors and health care plans. Some people have to say that, we have to wait and see how it plans out. This is economist stupidity to say these things. The point is the republicans have to be careful what they wish for. Obama care decided it was not an issue. It worked well for them. Democrats didnt come out to vote, you know, against republicans to defend obama care. The republicans have to be careful about how hard they go after obama care. It may creep up. Its in the next Supreme Court. The Supreme Court said theyd hear to this weekend. I think that is where you might see gruber matter. They have to be careful because it worked for them not talking about obama care on the trail. There has been mixed signals about how far theyll go. Good to see you. Thanks. We turn to the ebola crisis. On thursday we learnt a surgeon working in sierra leone, who contracted ebola would be treated at the University Medical center. Martin salia will be the third treated there and the third in the United States. And comes after dr Craig Spencer was released from the hospital. The only fatality was dr eric thompson. More than 5,000 have died from the virus in west africa. Still, we saw a lot of anxiety here, and wall to wall news coverage. Could or collective concern about what might happen with ebola in the u. S. Be nor virulent than the disease itself. Earlier this week i spoke to dr william schaffer, a professor of medicine at vaneder built university, and a past president for the foundation of infectious diseases. My first question, did we, as a county, including those in the news media, overreact to the ebola crisis in america . Its nice to take a deep breath and look back a little. Yes, there was hype, a great deal of hype. We did have a small outbreak of ebola, if you will, and a large outbreak of ebola anxiety. Ebolapalusa if you will. Both had to be attended to. Im grad to say the ebolapalusa has reseeded, along with ebola also. After the debacle in dallas, did the attention help to wake us up to what needs to be done to stop the spread of the disease like ebola. There is little doubt that most of our hospitals were not well prepared to deal with an epidemic of a contagious disease. I have to be partly guilty. I thought the hospitals were better prepared. Certainly we all learned from what happened in dallas, and i think every hospital around the country now is preparing or has prepared itself for an ebola visit if it will take it that way. I think we ought to be gratified that all the contacts of the ebola patients in the United States ran their course. People kept them under surveillance, and there has been no transmission except for the nurses in the dallas hospital. We learnt from it. We know that this is a virus that is not going to spread widely in the United States. Theres little doubt that ebola is catastrophic, something that we should never forget in the discussion. Even there, has it been overhyped. We saw estimates of 1. 4 million cases. Another estimate said that 10,000 cases a week by late november, early december. A lot an aerobars around them. One tends to go to the higher number and report that. Theres no doubt that the epidemic continues in the west african country. We seem to get our arms around it and starting to turn things around. Its still going to be a long hall. Those numbers, they are underestimates, a lot of patients were never diagnosed or counted. Lets talk west africa, wednesday the pentagon announced a cut in ebola troops. 3,000 down to 4,000. The incidents of the virus is not increasing there. But the World Health Organisation came out with new numbers. The death toll is in the three hardest hit countries, guinea, liberia, and sierra leone. Rising to 5,147, more than 14,000 cases total. Sierra leone, however, importantly there are steep increases. Are you concerned we may let our guard down . Well, the International Community need to continue to respond. Our response has been focused principally on liberia, and we are beginning to get our arms around the outbreak. The c. D. C. Has people over there doing the Public Health work. Our troops have been building hospitals. We have opened up a new treatment center, a large one, that will be staffed by App International group of health care workers. We are making progress. As i say, this is going to take a while yet. And the whole International Community really does need to participate. Final question for you, you know, we have always since ebola showed up a few decades ago, its been a scary disease, where, you know, at times 90 fatality rate. Is what we have seen with how ebola victims who have been in the United States, their survivability, how well they have done, is that changing the way we look at the disease still a dangerous disease, but with proper treatment it can be survived. Well, antonio, i think you said it well. But the proper treatment is the elaborate care that we can do in our open hospitals, intensive care units in the United States. Its difficult to translate all of that sophistication into a much simpler, a much, shall we say, less elaborate environment in west africa. It will still have high mortality in west africa. We are working to bring that down. Here in the developed world and europe, we can do much, much better. Dr william schaffer, always a pleasure to have you and have your insights on this important story. Consider this will be right back. Weeks of clashes in israel and the west bank have israelis and palestinians worrying the violence is spinning out of control. With some wondering if we are seeing the start of a worse case scenario, the spark of a third infit adda. The president Binyamin Netanyahu accused israel of fuelling a war, by allowing jewish activists to visit holy sites. Binyamin netanyahu hit back blaming mahmoud abbas. Translation these steps include reenforsments of forces on the ground across the country to ensure your safety. Demolition of attackers homes a firstly hand. Fire crackers and all kinds of petrol bombs, finding the parents of a stonethrowing, outlawing, as well as other steps. Joining us to discuss the recent violence, our ambassador, former israeli consule general and advisor to israelis mabar abbing, and an executive director of the Jerusalem Fund joins us. It is good to have you with us. Youcef after Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu spoke on tuesday, you tweeted sarcastically sure to fix things, i assume you think hes fanning the flames. Obviously. The reason you are seeing what you are seeing today is because of a problem that lies at the foundation of all of this, and that is the ongoing Israeli Occupation of palestinian territory. The denial of selfdiscrimination of palestinians, and the situation that palestinians have been dealing with for the past 66 years. So the you know, the israeli Prime Ministers plan is to respond to the acts by demolishing homes is going to poor gas on the fire, and is obviously not going to address the problem in any wholistic tore appropriate way. Clearly, you know, he does not seem to be interested in finding a genuine solution. Electioneering and campaigning. Your reaction. I know that within the israeli government, there has been dissent about the harsh line that Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu is taking. You know, no one is contributing anything positive to this situation. Or, for that matter, to the argument. Theres ongoing incitement originating from the Palestinian Authority, unfortunately. Mahmoud abbas, who i think has the capability and the faculties and the experience of being statesman like is inciting. And on the israeli side it has rightwing lunatics within the government and outside the government, who, too, are fanning the flames. The Prime Minister i would not fault him for this, i do fault him for one single thing, hes no longer in control of his politicians and members of, indeed, his cabinet. Nothing good is going to come out with either side. Doesnt the ambassador have a point. If the moderates like mahmoud abbas, are they fanning the flans, being inflammatory, saying israel is igniting a war was of actions on the temple mount. How could it be helpful to move things forward . We can have a conversation about specific language on each side. But i think theres a false equivalence presented between, you know, a language that might be inciting as it has been termed, and the largest single contributor to invitement, which is this Israeli Occupation, and the denial of palestinian rites. There is no language that will motivate a resistance to an occupation more than the reality of that occupation itself, in the way that it denies rights to people on the ground. You dont need to hear the comments of leaders to be outraged by the denial of action, the denial of freedom of movement, the continued Settlement Expansion on palestinian territory. That is the incitement here. To ambassador youcefs point. Isnt a great deal of the problem that the occupation is getting bigger. The settlements continue in violation of u. N. Resolution. Not just in contrast to u. N. Resolution, in contrast to u. S. Demand. American demand, and its not good policy. Thats not the point. The classical palestinian argument is being made, and im respectful of that. They are not a good policy. What you have now is a huge gap of mistrust and fear and loathing that is helping no one. Saying this is all about occupations well, here is the reality. 770 of israelis understand the twostate solution is the preferred model. On the ordinary hand you have 60 or 70 who say the same. At the same time its the 2030, 25 on both sides that call the shots. That is a tragedy. If we religionize an Ethno National conflict. There is no solution in site. As for the equivalence, you know, we have zealots and luna takes, and some tragically and unfortunately are

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