Here are the three findings you need to know from the senates longawaited and controversial report on the tactics used by america in the name of fighting terror. Cias socalled enhanced interrogation techniques. Eits, used on terror suspects after 911, amounted to torture. The cia failed to yield solid intelligence from suspects by torturing them. And the agency lied to the white house and congress, and i quote, leaving the false impression that the cia was requiring unique information from the use of the information. It put the cost of the cias detention and Interrogation Program at 9 billion in nonpersonnel costs. How much over . And what about outside contractors . We cant be insure by this report. But it goes on to say that the cia program contracted with company formed square meters with contractors receiving 81 million from the contract was terminated in 2009. The report says that they were hired to device and enhance interrogation techniques, and it goes to to talk about company y for more than 75 million. And company y got an additional 579,000 to build an interrogation facility in an unnamed country that the report says was neverred use. Those are your tax dollars at work. Brother hood. Shelled out since 9 11, they failed to yield any solid intelligence, and whats more, the financial costs pale in comparison to the reputation as a beacon of human rights. Its even worse when the cia uses torture to extract confessions from suspects who are proven to be false, and no threats. En everyone agrees with the findings of this report, including many republicans who dissented in the select committee on intelligence. And the committees proceedings were minor irregularities and factual errors, leading to claims and conclusion. Joining us from washington is mike viqueira, mike. Reporter ali, the cia says that mistakes were made, and there is divergence on whether or not these interrogations led to actually intelligence. And the cia is maintaining that it actually did. Its really a sordid tale any way you cut it. And many people look at this, and even some who support the relief of this today, including Lindsay Allen of south carolina, and it may be beating a horse to death. But he points to the fact that the interrogations ended with the Bush Administration in 2007, and form low by president obama, one of his first acts in taking office in 2009, and he also quotes the black sites and rendition sites in many countries, including Eastern European countries, but nevertheless, its startling, when you look at the evidence had water boarding and sleep deprivation. Literally slapping people around and dragging them around hallways feet first. And this is what many with the erred say on balance, it does not serve american interest, even if there was actual american intelligence gleaned from this. You point out that many say that its unreliable, the information that comes from these socalled enhanced interrogation techniques, which many refer to as torture. One of the things that came out in the report today, probably on the trivial side. And one person said that trying to recruit africanamericans from montana to join al qaeda and terror itself. Montana has a 1 population of africanamericans, and he was completely making that up. The white house said today, on the key question on this, ali, who will be held accountable . The white house is dancing around that issue. No one is going to be held accountable and they want to simply put it behind them, and the administration is very fearful. Briefing reporters today, pointing observants that over the course of the last five months, they have been preparing for possible retaliation at every single world. Mike, to the point of whether or not this is in the past and we should be dredging it up, the reality is that there are people who disagree with this report, who say that the enhanced interrogation techniques or torture, it was important to know, because the policy can change. You can line up behind former Vice President , dick cheney, who was defiantly saying that it produced results and saved lives, he told the new york times. They also report that many cia figures from back then, porter goss, and Michael Hayden as well, standing behind the technique. Even as the report outlines that the Bush Administration itself was kept in the dark by the cia, and misled. You talk about some of the psychologists, and at the outset of this operation, these interrogation techniques being practiced overseas, and the fact that even the cia right now says that they really didnt know what they were doing at the outset of this. It was kind of a mess, and they didnt have the expertise. And the psychologists they brought in had no kind of background in any progression, much less one that involved the physical abuse of prisoners. Whats the wait of a report like this . Does it hold any weight or is it opinion, is it politics . What is it . Literally, its 6,000 page, and i know a gallon of water is 12 pounds, i dont know how much it actually weighs. Were looking today at the distillation of those 5,000 pages down to a 500 page summary. Everyone is digging through. We have dug through the executive summary now, and as far as the figurative weight is concerned, i think that you look no further other than the reaction and the anxiety of the administration, the fact that they made last minute phonecalls. John kerry over the weekend called dianne feinstein, and didnt want her to delay or didnt raise any objections to the release of the report. But he wanted her to be aware of the fact that it could have repercussions overseas that could be detrimental to u. S. Interests. Trying to walk a finally line. Dianne feinstein taking the senate floor, and releasing it on the intelligence website. I think that you were going to want to listen to this, ali sue an is a former fbi agent who interrogated many of the people that the cia did. His testimony about the alleged terrorist, zubeda and what happened during interrogations are the only ones under oath, according to sufan, but no one is willing to give a statement about it. He spoke to me before the cia report was released. He said we with the policeman report to the fbi, and it is what the government called it. So i came back and companied to do my job, and i left the government in 2005, and it wasnt until all of these things, because it all starts hearing all of these arguments by different people, and they include the former director of the cia, the former attorney general, and the former Vice President of the United States, talking about how it saved lives, and they gave examples. And interestingly enough, in one of them, for example, lets pick on jose padilla, youll see that they mentioned water boarding, information from padilla, he saved the washington d. C. Area from a dirty bomb attack. But they say that he was arrested in may of 2003, not may of 2002, so i start noticing that there are a lot of they claim that these are typos, but there are a lot of typos, theres another classified document that says that rashid was picked up in december of 2002. Well, i know that he was picked up on september 11, 2002, i was part of the operation, so i started looking into all of these things, and i found there was nothing out there about the efficacy of the ideas, the efficacy of torture that i wasnt aware. And its not an issue of how i view things, but facts recorded in government documents, and put into reports and notes that we took on the interviews. So people were using them as a justification, that we got all of these results from interrogation tactics. And my firsthand knowledge, as i testified in the senate, my firsthand knowledge, we got the information not because of the its and not because of water boarding. But i dont know, after 53 sessions, what accurate, intelligence they were able to get. He admitted to them that he was the number three guy in al qaeda, but we knew when we arrested him that he was not the number 3 guy in al qaeda. All of the information that we got from him, we did it way before water boarding and without the news of that controversial technique. Were you frustrated and do you continue to be frustrated about the lack of information between the agencies . Had you had the information about the known al qaeda operatives in the United States, the argument as i read it, maybe 9 11 could could have not prevented. The 9 11 commission, if that information was shared with the fbi agents investigating the uss attack, it could have been stopped at the early stages. Your book, you give a lot about interrogation. You were in number 20s. 29. So you didnt have any particular affinity for this. I didnt. I wanted to be an investigator, and as far as investigations sometimes, its to sit down and talk to people. And i think that two things helped me throughout my career with interrogating individuals or interviewing individuals, and things that you do on a daily basis. Have to do your research, and you have to know exactly who that person is, know the group and how they function, and you play that poker mental game with that individual, and number two, empathy. And its basically just put yourself in their shoes, what do you think, what do you feel . What do you think that guy did . And thats the only way that you can go into their head. Terrorists after 9 11, you had two Close Friends die in 9 11. Absolutely, its very difficult for me, but again, i have to keep my feelings outside of the door. Im dealing with individuals, and i always have to check my feelings and emotions at the door before i start to use the office. You have to think about the facts, and you have to think of the law, and you have to think about how you can make people safe. Thats my job. My job in the Interrogation Room is not to be angry, not to be upset or retaliate for revenge my friends who have been killed by terrorists. I think i will give them the best revenge when i convince that person to cooperate with me. When i get intelligence from them to disrupt the plot. And when that person who im talking to with blood on their hands most probably, will never see the light of day again. Thats ali soufan. And its a shameful sight. Some of the men and women serving america have been priced out of their homes. 20 of the listing price, and a lot of them are cash offers. I would just like to get help. Plus, the protest of the killing of unarmed black men continue across the country, and is there more going on here . The role of startling economic disparity across races. Tweet m me at ali velshi. 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I think that the tech world has driven the prices high, and its hard to afford to even reb in the city now, let alone buy a house in San Francisco. Its really unfortunate. You have features, Police Officers, sheriffs, fire department. And we want to be in the city that we work in. According to reports benefit the brooks institution, the gap between the rich and the poor is growing faster in San Francisco than in any other major city in the country. Families in the bottom 20th percentile saw their salaries drop 4,000 in the past five years, and those in the 95th percentile saw theirs rise by almost 28,000. The medium income is 73,000, around how much he makes. This group is discovering they can no longer find affordable places to rent or buy. With the cost of living sky high, some city firefighters and First Responders have been forced to move hours away. And that worries officials in this quakeopponency. Its really a question of whether the next one hits, and when the next one hits, we want San Francisco. City hall is offering First Responders like lee up to 1,000 in down payment assistance to purchase a home inside of the city limits. Last year, the initial pool had enough money to help out about 10 applicants, and andrew is one of the lucky few who benefited from the program. I was outbid by 20 over the listing price, and a lot of them were cash offers, and i was lucky to get a house in San Francisco today. I just moved in about two months ago, and im doing a lot of little projects on my days off. Its a twobedroom, one bath, small little house up on a hill. The city recognizes it would have to significantly expand the program for any impact, and he would like to see the Assistance Program grow. For public servants, like teachers and police and firefighters can also have the opportunity to live in the city where they serve. Aljazeera, San Francisco. Just east of San Francisco last night, protesters managed to block one of the biggest freeways in america for four hours. They managed to get on the interstate 80 despite the police presence. It was one of the many demonstrations of the killing of black men by police like eric garner. What were seeing is not the result in inequality for minorities, but economic inequality as well. Margaret simms is a director of the equality, and these are not great circumstances under which to talk, but as we have covered ferguson and eric garner here in new york, theres definitely a sense that theres more to this. And it is some of it is about racial inequality. But a lot of it is about economic inequality. Certainly, economic inequality leads to a lot of condition thats result in unfortunate encounters with the police, and when these incidents spring up, people bring to it all of the racial inequality and discrimination and disparrots they have had over time, but the killings we have seen are just the kip of the iceberg when it comes to encounters with the criminal Justice System, and those encounters have serious consequences in terms of income and wealth building, and in terms of support within the community. Young africanamerican men have lots of encounters with the system. Sometimes arrests dont lead to actual charges, but if theres an arrest there, and if theres incarceration, there are severe economic kepses, in terms of no employment afterwards, wealth changes, and debt accumulation. And lets just put figures into this. By the age of 23, almost half of black men in america have been arrested. And like you said, it doesnt always lead to a charge or to a conviction, but the fact that half of all black men in america have been repeated by the able of in, the entry into the criminal Justice System is much more available to them and much more readily taken. Its not as if theyre doing it by choice. The police are making a decision on who looks suspicious, and what 24th engage as criminal activity. And theres evidence that africanamerican men are just more likely to be stopped topped and engaging in age. Lets talk about progress and economic boycotts of stores. And lets put ferguson, missouri. With the riots and destruction of business property. But generally this idea of economic boycotts. An eye for an eye in terms of economics . Well, theres certainly an eye for an eye, but theres also this whole question of how you call a question to something that has a severe impact on your life, but doesnt impact other peoples lives, and that is to make their lives uncomfortable. You can do it through boycotts if there are businesses that are associated with this negative activity, as far as youre concerned, and there are also ways of getting peoples attention. If you stop traffic when somebody is trying to get home from a game, from work, then you make it uncomfortable for them. You keep it in their face. If you block entrances to stores, and if you boycott, you make it uncomfortable for people. And they realize that things are not as they always are. You make their life uncomfortable. Let me ask you this. And that is tried and true, and not only that, but its protected in american speech, but is there some misdirection of the frustration . We watch some of the protests blocking columbus circle, calling for boycotts on black friday and the apple store and macys, and theres no link between those companies and the problem, so can we make people uncomfortable in a way that targets the message more effectively . Manien lifts will tell you that there was no effect for the call for a boycott on back friday. They can make negative circumstances, and people may not be only uncomfortable, but may be put off by your message. But i would argue that the protests are not just directed toward the country, but the customers. What are we trying to change . We know that the medium income for whitetails is 60le thousand dollars a year, and blacks, 25,000. And the core of this is inequality. Are we talking to employers . What do we want to solve to make the system better . I think at the very basic level, what many of these protesters are doing is police activity, the criminal Justice System. That is how do we change the system so that africanamerican men have an equal chance to live free . And therefore to pursue their economic goals . The question of course is this strategy, or these sets of strategies to do that. It needs to go to the next level. That is once the attention is drawn, then we need to have some policy changes put into place. We have to have the attention of, and the approaches to the structure, the people who run the structure, the people who make the laws, and cre