I clearly flatter prefixes book and get a couple more to be on the site so read seen a very good cool show well you'll know that while you're with you Don being in the army Yes Ok thank you Shula all day nationals gratefully received. And he had a generous Perhaps I'd better take an extra copy of their carrying case in this event has got id. Oh I suppose well I suppose it's just tomorrow's chip wrapping now but they've really gone in for the kill haven't I mentioned Freddy like that she won't be happening can I pay for my butter next then please I am the 2 copies of the counter that's right some of the words they've used in the tower to call I don't think it's really don't you know there again I do understand people with very up say it's only a few people who are so I understand it is more than a few That's what it says in the paper Yes Well people do love to climb on a bandwagon. One of the most is that quality Did you read it she said she thought it was other the preist overhaul it to into thinking they misjudged they wanted to publish my name but I want to show what the position was or maybe in a parish current sorry I asked him to stick with a local Mother Space My friend got put out with a rubbish still going on about who's been going since Sunday I'm sure it was her in that not of oh no need so much as my contacts were going to call everyone about ringing in practice to know each. Day or it was just my markets going is what Brian is run off will show you didn't use and should not hold and is certainly no use and was only fail your mum wants me to take it easy going to come while it still makes him look everywhere or can think of at least 3 trolling. Time was just a thought and then went back to teach how would you know where the woman oh look there was just that sometimes my pops things in there when she's tired you know why why would she tell you one more move oh yeah you know what she's like going to send she's cookin don't always realize what she's doing. To me traveling. If you like of course well I'm telling you no it won't be in there let's just say I must say you know this is the picture you know the players draw for me. She said it was to meet you backfill Barrow Yeah. Well is it is having the correct again oh no oh no nice. Karate Kid that for sure oh oh yeah now you come and tell me action so here I think oh yeah dance I was right in here now turn on future light what was he doing is not true you 'd are your main thing is you found it a got yours. The complete reverse air all the time. Who could do all these messages. Hello Shida Hi it's me listen with I'm glad you've come I just want to childcare again about Freddy which is like I told you last night he seemed Ok you sure you're not you're fair to me you know no one who. Was Bush to it was very late I went. Yes Some think so I didn't really ask him actually Elizabeth there's something you will look if you just wait I don't know if you've seen the echoes you don't have to I could wish I did ask him. I told you he said he'd think about it yes. That's good look well I've got you on the lam Sure sure the charities want you to get bigger Oh please listen have you got a call for your help but feel a trauma in him or about Freddy is this a but I should. Oh. Oh no he saw me repeat law you know we are very near you haven't started War Thanks Kim is just getting mad saying hey there's no rush because you need the reason why letter went to preach farm to collect 10 Actually I was wondering way in hell I know she's got Mason info push him so if it's a pick him up and bring him when I got a bridge from him we were not hiring him Hello Mr forgotten to phone me oh I just presume she and her new company over your height in light of the city you're not like oh you look at trying to get a shoes out so how about irony and right everyone please or not so on. Did you put in the state animal Drew who is going to ask you the same thing you want some to question it's not order remember put it there on the main thing if you find it now. Duncan's been trying to get over to me all week there were 2 voice and I was 3 murders and 5 tanks sickly he should've been contacting very upset you never been talking to him or yes you are is me it's best to tell me I didn't even know Hannah trains the rotor and why didn't she to me because you're wrong see clearly or Frankly I don't understand why she felt she had to change it was working perfectly well the why or why has spent shifted to a what she thinks is right look she's not my replacement Susan she's only covering for me changes because actual to run it past me she probably didn't want to both the junkyard to get is allowed to football on Sunday it might be arrangement on the basis of the old protest which was internally reasonable but not right in 15 minutes late but apparently Anna didn't let him explain she straight to right Dr not often hours pie and gave him a terrible dressing Dame. Then on Monday morning because of road work she was 5 minutes right and she went ballistic talked to him like he was a naughty kid at school told him he was going after sorghum So vote. I mean if it was like she had warranty it's not right to talk to a grown man had to say told her so. Yes Then she told him she'd be docking him another 30 minutes Paey and next time it would be an hour an aide told her to stop her job what did she say I've spoken to her Well just remember they were tell you so it's to a 3 story nail might be that dumped in these exact result good work says I'm one of the bad to you around it in these points of view be easy to reply Well Fulton at me that's not you. Because you're on see can I have a good one to phone or right now and tell him I was in no such thing Carter supposed to be typing He said he was rude to management Susan and fiddling with Roach I was not a free one the place with a human touch like you on a. What you fancy feet a lamb chops or salmon style you. Don't worry about they are make do with a piece of you will always ring in practice atop a 6 by coming to church which will surely 3 carries through remembered some day a thief some so to job look who else is going to war annoys them if not made but we talked about the secretary in the week Chris Davis but paid its York fair to ask Christer for our little car you know he's been doing it Frankie is but it's a lot of pressure on such a solemn occasion Oh I'll get up. And get moving through I do have and it's remarkable Don't worry. Why don't you. Better wall cannot tell me Oh don't be ridiculous she cried Bell ringing you can barely stand up strike hard promised songs I don't do yourself a worse injury who. Just stop a moment oh whoa whoa whoa now. Stand still me. Now I. Want to buy you know. Even through the now. Hold it for 3. To. 3 and ask. Each. One to. See you carry on breathing now coming cold Christopher No Yes Can I am I'll be better by Sun are you no such thing he's taking charge of the ringing tonight I'll tell him and he'll be doing on Sunday and all the sounds are all who. Tell me now when he was there why would you call on your shoes down there Emma did you drop an info sheet in for Helen and Henry it's about the grading this week oh yeah sure. I don't think they're going to need it why no Helen just text me saying that Henry probably won't be coming again Oh. Currently don't like karate no more Don't ask me why I think I might know something happened at the end of class last week I really I asked her to help me clear up Henry wanted to do it and he pushed her out of the way yeah I remember Helen telling me something about that so I took him aside and had a few words with him Kiran mentioned as we kind of been a big thing well I didn't think so just a normal telling off but he took it quite badly and hadn't went really quiet so I think I'm out of overstep the mark. Thing about her and she's a very. I'm sure it when you fell we'd be seeing OTOH. Suppose she might be a bridge for a minute of this no off could you do something for me course Litella that if I offended her will you tell I'm sorry. Why they mention Freddie I don't know the ancestral home of imprisoned drug dealing Frederick Pacitti honestly she will imprison drug dealer was that good to do with anything how dare they I'm going to contact the editor and complain you'd better read on Elizabeth there's other stuff in the article that's potentially more damaging He made a mistake she let And he's being punished for it he doesn't deserve this sort of this is character assassination read the next paragraph you know I'm not going to let him get away with this I'm just not please Elizabeth read it this fiasco comes in the wake of a string of recent troubles at the beleaguered stately home conference venue including the loss of the alcohol license and the cancellation of several important booking How do they know about these things I mean he's behind this nonsense. Our source Well there's a surprise cos it's all rubbish. Stories of weeping children they've made it sound so much worse it hadn't been for Roy talk of fanning the flames with his talk of refunds. The fees they put in the management at low lux the actions to address all complaints how dare he speak for us I expect he was just trying to calm things down she didn't even tell me there were reporters there she should have told me this is absolutely the last thing I needed Shula and it's all Geraldine's fault. No. More from the arches tonight at 7 when Hannah has a change of heart and Elizabeth goes too far makes this afternoon Alison Steadman and Kevin Whately star in our play exploiting a loophole in aviation law a flamboyant airline tycoon Hunter Mackenzie has planted transatlantic flights that offer a rather unusual service as you'll hear in departure after this. You know I enjoyed the most about recording these shows the retakes at the end is the closest I get to time travel in real life for the new series such as talks take one you know this conversation just petered out into something dead boring to get a fictional retake and then we put some of it into a place where the happened there. Was for the new series of tests or take to the doctor just then to those listening in the future with an absolutely great bunch to . Talk back and make sure my kids went to madrassa or the psychological bullying and forth between hopefully made them less slippy. Tears talks on b.b.c. Radio 4 returns next Thursday evening at 11. Drama now is departure by Conan by the way starring Alison Steadman and Kevin Wakely and said in the not so distant future 2 strangers Jon and Martin meet twice boarding a flight they know they will not survive. It's. a bit and I just want to recap insulates there's no need to be accessed we've done this hundreds of times the full. Well I have and this is not us flights with us to these kinds of flights if you know I mean. To be honest I'm dead now of us. Oh I mean I mean not Ted's obviously but. Anyway so if you could just fix them to foster new safety valve size you were time back we've been so used subsequent to takeoff hoeing. Funny it'll be our 1st flight to be honest. Mogul mercenary Rick my. I guess this evening has been called many things but one year ago today he acquired a new moniker beginning with him. Tonight we hear his side of the story I'm tired your heart and this is the heart of the. Born to read it in the London suburb of Croydon and to Mackenzie left school at 14 made his 1st 1000000 519527 was the youngest person to own. But in 2017 his most controversial business venture to date. Is a cover. Forward in international aviation lore and to Mackenzie started his dignity flights the ultimate in euthanasia tourism passengers aboard one of his tragic that defeat and then administered a cocktail but this is not your average mile high by Thai this is a lethal concoction that brings about death to the sick and terminally ill church leaders human rights groups and doctors of all poor the chip aeration the scheme 30 time this week Hunter Mackenzie faces his biggest opponent yet the government as a bill goes before the House of Lords to close the deal and stop the flights did so tonight we are asked how to Mackenzie. Hunter welcome Thank you Tanya pleasure to be here well my 1st question how does it feel to be called. What could be worse well Pedia pages I'm a Spurs fan but series seriously you see those methods of. Football aside are you now giving people a choice of how they die which is denied them everywhere else in this country so. The 1st dignity flight exactly one year ago today how many people have taken 181-2812 dead 812 dignified departures from this world in a plane for a stress free caring environment living up to our motto on to air we do is certainly do and we dared to have you with us for the full hour we'll be right back . Please be gentle with me that's not what you said last. Right about. That Jack. I mean I. Was shocked I wept like this Tractatus filthy. Sorry keep still. I almost bought a book actually at the airport Agatha Christie I didn't buy it and I thought I do want to be a half way through and not find out who done it. I saw you in the dignity lounge actually a little hand creams went their job but is that how you say it I've been trial popped a couple in my bag for later I mean it's not stealing is it what are they going to do if they catch me throw me off the flight but don't do it during the already. Poor woman in the mohair punch in the wheelchair did you see her in the dignity lounge begging for a little doggie to be let on the flight with a nod and she said to down on the right see her husband's being ever said good with . Wonder who feed the talk tonight. Do you want me to shut up sorry because I don't mind really 6 months ago I would've said boo to a what's it but you know what changed that this this whole flight business taking charge be all thoughts of your own destiny that's what Antony says I had Antony who did you have I'm sorry your own ground counsellor Antony was lovely I wasn't sure when I walked in because of the piercings but when we started ha he let me talk and talk and talk that meant to be good that gays that's why they get all the chat shows especially if he was gay Well it didn't say as much but I can tell and perceptive me that it's the sort to transfer ratio isn't it the gay men never have that guy. Of leg showing between trouser in sock Russell what he was the same on the other one if you notice that. He made me feel like I had something to say. When it came to the end of the sessions I felt like saying I pay for more I really did. Have someone you could tell anything to. Someone who listened. But never happened. Anyway I haven't shut up since so if you want me to just say I won't mind. So what about us she was very professional they're always very professionally people but you split your guts out like me I needed that. When the cancer came back I just couldn't keep it in an email you have counter It's my 2nd time with the big c. . And you. Guess the same cancer. I don't usually swear but it's up. To how we your family when you told them you know about this flight. Pretty much as you'd expect devastated. Yours. They don't know sorry you didn't tell them about the cancer being back all the flight actually Well that's not strictly true I left my husband post it on the fridge this morning to say you were going on a dignity flight plan that he needs to meet the meter the gas board pop the car through. The snow. Your eggs you use. My friends. Your Ride years or so hours or 50 percent pieces. I know you don't want those pellets are in but what she would sure sort of got a smile but. I'm are going to tell me personally bar some then. Jason said he'd come by this morning but his heart Passmore No sir. When. It comes inert no on shore after work now and don't upset yourself so maybe you don't live in town with milk early why but should I get the pellets. Squeeze my hand are in my. Arms for yes 2 for them yeah. C'mon. Anything. The. Police. Would surely want to thank you by now they said goodbye to me long ago believe me they've got their own lives. The kids and a husband Barrow for all he's worth but was a bit too keen to crease up the girl guide her for my liking if you know what I mean. My husband Doug he's got Carol Carol coral apparently but I'm sure it's really Carol and she just change them out to make itself more interesting been going on for years but well kept my mouth shut. When he comes home tonight to an empty house Antony said I don't mean anything and he's right I spent my whole life worrying about other people's failings and what they wanted. This is my time. What's left of it. And I can't help but think. Your husband but with you gone the husband needs to know Oh I understand. He was she wife were here don't you there. Yes Or do you wish it was her sat next to you instead of the chatterbox with the pad drops. We can to McKinsey with all these billions just to make it so dear to bring along one on your I don't know when money in the world couldn't get her on here fraid of flying if she was no fraid of dying at all but. What flying a sorry you misread my ears go funny on planes too it's the pressure yes. Pressure can get a bit much. Let me talk you through the whole process so you see free I know I can and then you board the flight Well in fact the procedure begins long before that we have an online screening process and then once your initial eligibility has been assured then an appointment is made to see one of our on ground counselors who assesses you in person and then well passengers have 81 hour counseling sessions to determine 110 percent if this is what they want now let's get to the flight itself shrouded in mystery if you'll pardon the pun no mystery how guests board the flight and this is an ordinary Hunter transatlantic flight with ordinary passages Yes Well there's no such thing as an ordinary passenger under each one especially course but part of the plane has been reserved for the dignity passengers yes yes yes are not in danger of catching anything that. After about 2 hours flying so I'm the 1st passenger scheduled for the procedure is called to the dignity bank which is it's a comfortable secure area where when they already the passenger is given a mild sedative to relax them then they are led through to the dignity empty chamber there they are asked once again if this is what they want and then they are led to the dignity chamber where they're given a stronger medicine this gently and humanely stops their breathing and then comes the part which many people struggle yes they are passed into a way to try out and released into the ocean below drop from the sky Well if burial at sea is good enough for Francis Drake then it's good enough for me and my passengers that there's not a chance that one day when I'm sat on the beach in Florida say one of the passengers could just wash up on the beach Well the Atlantic ocean covers over 41000000 square miles Tony so I think we can safely say that the only thing that will disturb your Somebody will be admiring glance just. One of the other environmental concerns I know you're a passionate advocate of the environment having heard you speak at the green industry awards in Dublin 2 years ago you were. Yes I was there. So you deny being a manager at but what about your staff I'm sorry and some have suggested that you were on board Flight Team of being forced into the role of executioner How do you respond to that sorry sorry one time to answer that now we'll be right back after this break. Oh you dear all you really. Need to do so. We are seeing your a bit odd Well who wanted to work because he probably St be here any wiser or learned sure a blow you can. Love a year and think would save this one delivery of Dr. No way. I'm getting a bit x.t. Now in the waiting. I was the same with Leo Sayer at the stage don't