Contraception or abortion care or miniport help just extraordinary I mean other big thing of course is survival screening we are justifiably proud of our survival screening reducing cancer rates but at the moment only about 2 thirds of women are able to get me out when it's due because again shortage of appointments I want to come on to the un just a moment let's just stick with contraception for a moment because one of the proposals that you've come up with which many people I'm sure listing many women will think there's this the sun's very easy is that you could buy the contraceptive pill and indeed the morning after pill at the front of a chemist I mean I know you can do this in lots of other countries but at the moment a woman normally has to go back to her g.p. Every 3 months to get another prescription you think that this could that could be done away with and you could just pick it up the way you can pick up condoms yes it's quite simple but as I was saying earlier very very well researched incredibly good safety track record and I think that if you give women the opportunity to look after themselves and give them the right information that they will treat the scene and they will do this very well and so without a consultation it means that if you don't have any problems then you would go to your g.p.s. But you don't the pharmacists in pharmacies and chemist shops and they all of those are very well qualified to help with the problem but certainly you may want to have an initial consultation if you want a particular type of contraception or advice about her and other medical problems you have but not going back every 3 months to waste everybody's time sitting there to get another repeat prescription and maybe not being able to go back and therefore having an oven a danger of having an unplanned pregnancy because you've actually run out of your prescription and we know that unplanned pregnancies have so many more complications so if you can plan when you're going to become pregnant and how many times then the outcome for you and for your baby is so much better and or abortion right is not highest that is have a been yes it is and interestingly not in young women this is in women in their late thirty's and early forty's who I think ago. Men are falling through the cracks because they're not able to access contraception though you mention cervical smear tests I did want to talk to you about this because one of the interesting things that a new take up is very low where one in 3 women miss their lasts me or I also noticed that it is much higher in women earning less than $15000.00 pounds a year of I think about 42 percent do you know why that is and what can we do about it when I think you once again it's about women falling through the cracks and if you're on a low income or your other deprived area it's much more difficult for you to access those appointments and if I ask you to come to 3 different doctors to get your contraception and your smear thought it out and s.d.i. Check then it's likely that one of them is going to fall off the radar and then if you can't access it or you have an unpleasant experience while you're there you're not likely to go back and you're going to miss a shift or you paid shift somewhere because you've got an appointment to see you not just as easy as being able to take time off so you need to be able to go to somewhere a one stop shop effectively and do all those things quickly in your lunch hour after work so that you can get on with the rest of your life now let's talk about these one stop shops because this is what you're proposing it does sound quite radical and I'm sure for a lot of people listening it sounds like a really simple idea actually which is that you can go to one place and maybe have an appointment with a nurse or a health care professional for say 15 minutes where you can talk about it depending what age you are whether you know if you're young you might be talking about heavy periods contraception maybe getting s.t.i. Advise you can to what all these things at once if you're an older woman you might be talking about menopause symptoms along with contraception advice etc so you could do it all in in one place and have it always on at all we've said it all and I really don't think it's difficult as I keep saying and we have the launch yesterday at the House of Commons this is not rocket science this is just common sense and I'm sure if we get all our stakeholders together they will want to help us make this happen it sounds like common sense it hasn't happened obviously setting up one stop shops. Isn't cost free where are we going to get the resources to do this but at the moment I think we're wasting an enormous amount of resource so commissioning of these basic health care services are in 3 trunk she's with n.h.s. England with local authorities and with clinical commissioning groups and of course when you're only commissioning for a bit of it or you've got the pot of money that basically says this is one type of care you may not see the benefits of when you do that very well so I think what's happening now is that we have 14 through the women affording through the cracks and what we've got to do is try and get somebody in charge of this preferably a single provider or possibly can co commission but we need to put women at the center of the problem and cater for them not cater for the all the institutions and the side of these women I suppose of often deep prioritized their own health partly because they're incredibly busy and very often the times when they need to be looking at their health or the times when they are the busiest for example women with very young children and you talk about the the postnatal 6 week check and as a missed opportunity I have to say of 3 kids and I don't actually ever remember having a 6 week check I did I mean maybe I didn't maybe I had one and it just wasn't very memorable It was a lot of other things going on why is that a missed opportunity what should we be doing that well I think is absolutely crucial for many reasons firstly because we know that when we mean a pregnant they affected we go through sort of a road test for their future health and we know that often things that happened to them during pregnancy both physically and mentally are if you like a taster of what they might have later on so if you've had a bit of high blood pressure all you've got just Station diabetes it's almost like writing a certificate for yourself I'm going to have this problem major So the 6 week check is such a great time for them to sit down with a health care professional and talk about what's happened to them check that the baby's fine check their physical and their mental health and then if you do they've put on weight or they you know they've had some other problem pregnancy talked to them about how they really. Need to tackle this so that they don't have problems in the future and of course number one in that check up list needs to be talking about contraception again because you know many many women find that they are missing out on postnatal contraception and we know the really good data to show that if you space your pregnancies by 18 to 24 months the outcome for you and the outcome for your baby is enormously improved so it's just the no brainer. Long term health comes for women can actually be affected quite greatly by this kind of intervention is that what this study really shows overall I think so and I think it showing that what we can do is prevent ill health by empowering women to do what they need to do I mean we number 51 percent of the population but we influence the health care behaviors of everybody else too and I think if we can educate and provide women with the information they need to look after themselves and after their families will have a vastly increased workforce in the n.h.s. And we've actually seen some big banks some city institutions who are really let's face it motivated by profit putting money into Manapul services for their staff because they've been convinced that it actually is good for the bottom line I mean the simple fact is that money talks in these situations do you need to convince the government in the same way that the services that you're talking about are going to give better outcomes to women but actually they would be in the end more profitable for whole society I mean I'm just trying to work out how we really make sure this time that we make a change because although this report seems to be full of really good intentions I can't help thinking we've been here before a fair point and I think what we've got to do is ensure that all of those people at the n.h.s. And in government really really help us to implement this because it's not it's not complicated but we are going to have to do a little bit a service reorganization to get the very best out of it but I think it's possible and you make the example of the city firms that have. Found that it's incredibly beneficial for their product of ity if they don't have women going off on sick leave or indifferent hospital or doctor appointments that they can provide them with these simple services in-house or close by or just at a fixed time when they can do everything that productivity increases and I think that I think our I think our leaders are listening and after all this is a fantastic opportunity for the n.h.s. Because 70 percent of the employees in the n.h.s. Are women so let's make that really front and center and show everybody how well it can be done well president of the gynaecological and obstetrician service and Professor Lesley Regan Frank you very much indeed for coming in talking to us I'm sure some eminently common sense approaches there Thank You Thank You know Sean Barrie is co-leader of the Green Party of England and Wales and although the climate is tough with many voters agendas the party has got just one seat in Westminster and they've been seeing increasing support in local and European elections but can they actually turn out into any more parliamentary seats and what difference can they make Well Sean Berry is here so welcome to shine welcome what is the we've got there is Caroline I guess she's incredibly effective She's very high profile tell me that what is distinctive about the Green Party's offer to women voters in this election I think one thing we're all about is is system change and people often interpret that as just being about the climate but but it isn't and one thing that we've got as ago as part of our manifesto is the elimination of poverty and that sounds really grandiose but actually is not that it's not that difficult today we're talking about providing a universal basic income to absolutely every person to replace the benefit system to take away that conditionality and it's a really really big idea that goes along with our great need jail and investing in infrastructure investing in energy in people's homes to transform the way things work in terms of energy. But this would transform society and I I'm so proud that we've actually in this election when so many parts of society are breaking down we're putting forward the big system changes that are all linked together in a way that we've not really done before in previous elections we've tended to put forward some bright ideas things that we can we can justify that sort of make the case that green ideas can work that the other parties might take up but in this one we've got so many enormous crises we've just gone the whole hog we've known system change here's the big change here's the universal basic Ok so just as you certainly explain then to us exactly what universal basic income is it's a flat rate of money that goes to unconditional payment to every permanent resident and it replaces all the benefits that are not completely special so just carers allowance and housing benefit to knowing whether you're working or not a hunch money you make good if you make. A machine at the that the welfare state sets out to provide but at the moment we have a welfare system that is that's a complete mass it's full of conditions it's full of tests and the key thing about that is when you've got tast some prejudices within society structural ones but also personal ones tend to mean that those who are most discriminated against those who face the most barriers are the ones who slipped through the net and that's women and that's minorities and so there's a reason why Martin Luther King was an advocate for basic. He said it was the next step in the civil rights struggle and it is that it would absolutely transform the lives of many women given many more choices in their lives as well as eliminating the horrible poverty that we're seeing in reports today for example from a shelter that shows record numbers of children living in temporary accommodation in homeless families there's absolutely no need for that we are a country who can eliminate poverty and this is the way to do it you know you heard our last item always talking to Professor Leslie Regan What did you think of those policies in terms of health. For women that's absolutely music to my ear is described as common sense and it is you know we we focus a lot on the the problems that there are in acute care in the n.h.s. And they are very serious but if we're going to be transforming the health service we do need to focus on these more community based. Stick focused on the person not on the condition and these these smaller sort of preventive and interventions that make people feel supported and cared for they can make all the difference in terms of maintaining health I love the way it's described as maintenance and maybe when I visit the doctors to maintain my my parts Ok Let's talk a little bit about your your seats because in the European elections in the consul actions you achieve done quite well you start with members of older councillors and they're only pays in 21000 already a lot better though than in general elections where you know you've you have heard one m.p. a Lot of people will look at their own constituencies when they come to vote and think the look at the numbers and think that a vote for the Green Party is a wasted vote would you say to them I mean most constituencies you are absolutely 100 percent free to vote grey most constituencies do not change hands there's a lot of safe seats out there and voting Green in those constituencies sends a huge message that the transformation we want to see in society the big changes and importantly tackling climate chaos on top of your priorities Ok but St Nicholas sturgeon she's called for voters on that side of Scotland to vote tactically to keep the Tories on it so do you agree in close seats even if that means not voting Green in a small number of seats there are they these are the marginal say that we do have a problem the 1st past the post system doesn't make it easy for voters and we've tried to work with other parties on that in this election we have made this agreement with like a Mary and the Liberal Democrats in seats where one or other of us if we teamed up could could be the Conservatives could change the balance of Parliament towards a people's vote was our motivation but also we've got an agreement based on climate action and rolling back a stir. So you talk about climate action there are a number of seats where you've stood aside for at the liberal democrats are you convinced that their green credentials are good enough for a voter whose main concern is the environment to vote for and it's not an endorsement we're not teaming up with you know labor 1st is de carbon a zation policies are much closer to yours and the Lib Dems on the no party comes anywhere near our levels of investment or are our goals in terms of transforming society and the economy away from carbon emissions but in terms of changing the balance of Parliament we've we've worked in a grown up why with other parties Another see where the Green candidate is the candidate who will stand up for my and all those things we stand for and can actually win and that is very exciting for me there I mean it's a small number of constituencies but they are very significant mentions universal basic income there are lots of other really catching things in your manifesto things like in a starting school at the age of 6 making missile genea hate crime things that a lot of our listeners will be interested in but you might get a couple of seats in this election we don't know yet. Those seats if you get the might be crucial if we have a tight election a hung parliament so which bits of Europe huge and you know. In a quite radical manifesto would you be asking a main party presumably the Labor Party to agree to in return for those crucial votes well Climate Action is an absolute bottom line for us as are changes to the austerity things that we have a moment where the cuts that they made councils for example we're talking about restoring Council funding by 10000000000 that's a lot more than the other parties but when we launched our manifesto we also put forward 10 bills and those are bills that in some cases Caroline Lucas has already tried to put through in Parliament like the n.h.s. Reinstatement bill for example but also a bill to introduce basic bills for a green new deal these are the bill. That we take to the table if anyone needed of a compiler is a line silly need to come to where your army corps been as prime minister that's our starting point our red lines our climate action obviously and the transformation of the economy away from. Carbon into more productive things and working on the problems that led to Bracks investment all around the country moving away from fossil fuels these are things where the other parties are still doing things like supporting airport expansion supporting road building they're not going far enough there are some very big things that they want to do like h.s.t. Renewing Trident we've been putting those in as as big conditions as well but let's not get ahead of ourselves the voters in in constituencies where we can we need to do their duty their bit now and they can they can make history we can double our Any piece just the way we've doubled our our other representation across the country in this election Ok was shown very of the Green Party of in Wales thank you very much indeed now we're going to be talking to Liz sample Roberts from plug in just a minute and we're also going to be looking at bringing up multi lingual children a bit later on. But each year an act is crying and introducing artist of the year by b.b.c. Music the previous winners include catfish on the bottom and is a busy and just go at and this year's winner is celeste and we spoke to Celeste just a couple of weeks ago on the program so here she is talking to Jane about the importance of having people behind you when you're starting out and in Macas and supporting in d.j. Target from one extreme has been one of my biggest champions to say you need champions don't you because you can definitely kick start a career in music unless you've got people who are on your side 100 percent it helps a great deal to have people who are respected to say I like this and this is something I actually listen to and also once you get that encouragement I was boy you up and give you much more confidence to keep going 100 percent I think the acknowledgement just kind of encourages you and motivates you to carry on and yeah something I really appreciate. Well if you had to the woman's our Web site not that you can see brand new film that we made with Celeste she's talking about starting out in music and her musical influences and she also actually share some great advice if you listen to Thursday's front row will have artists from the recent b.b.c. Music introducing live weekend including the band Ferris and Sylvester and there'