off the point where there is going to be a production logjam. these are obviously sophisticated systems, a lot of them take some time to develop, and so whilst you might see some of them coming and in the near future, is at some point the industrial base is going to have to start ramping up to produce new particularly interceptors, because the ukrainians have obviously been taking a lot of incoming fire from the russians, particularly when there have been attacking civilian infrastructure.— there have been attacking civilian infrastructure. there was testimony dou . las infrastructure. there was testimony douglas hurd _ infrastructure. there was testimony douglas hurd is _ infrastructure. there was testimony douglas hurd is part _ infrastructure. there was testimony douglas hurd is part of _ infrastructure. there was testimony douglas hurd is part of the - infrastructure. there was testimony douglas hurd is part of the signingl douglas hurd is part of the signing off of this, and the head of the us european said the russian army is 15% larger than when it first invaded ukraine. —— testimony that was heard. ukraine is going to have to achieve a lot before winter sets in once again. how is the russian army looking in terms of military and troops personal as well? that