was not aware of that, no. by july of 2019. an _ was not aware of that, no. by july of 2019, an arm's _ was not aware of that, no. by july of 2019, an arm's length - was not aware of that, no. by july of 2019, an arm's length body, i l of 2019, an arm's length body, i suppose one would call it, or a stakeholder, public health england, was stating in its own minutes that there had been no word from the dhsc on dhsc�*s pandemic strategy, so they were concerned. they had heard nothing from your department in relation to the updating of the strategy, because it was obviously a matter of very real concern. i strategy, because it was obviously a matter of very real concern.- matter of very real concern. i don't recall that — matter of very real concern. i don't recall that ever _ matter of very real concern. i don't recall that ever being _ matter of very real concern. i don't recall that ever being raised - matter of very real concern. i don't recall that ever being raised with l recall that ever being raised with me, and it highlights the problem of not having a body that was focused only on preparing to defend us against a pandemic since the health protection agency was abolished in 2012, and that was one of the reasons behind the organisational change i brought in later. mi change i brought in later. all ri . ht. change i brought in later. all right- the — change i brought in later. all right. the pandemic influenza preparedness board was another important part of the department's work, wasn't it? yes. what was its