are within third cousins, to make the case tractable, so we definitely had some within the third—cousin range. 0thram was founded shortly after the golden state killer was identified, with a mission to solve unsolvable cases. the company ceo david mittelman says the first step in the process is to clean up the dna, which is often degraded. in carla's case, it was more than 40 years old. the company then sequences that dna, looking at thousands of distinctive markers on the genome. in the traditional forensic dna testing framework, like for codas, there's about 20 of these positons in the dna that you're measuring, and that information can be used to confirm that you were at a crime scene or that someone closely related to you — a sibling, parent or child, was at a crime scene. and that's the extent of what you can do with 20 markers. what we do at 0thram is we look at tens of thousands,