they started today, before these talks happened. to keep very much setting itself up as an intermediary, a potential mediator between these two countries but what is really crucial is not what is said after these talks. different delegation saying what they have promised and what they were hoping to do, it is very much going to be all about what happens on the ground nearin all about what happens on the ground near in ukraine. as he reflecting there, even as these talks were being warmly welcomed them progress was being discussed, there were still attacks happening here in ukraine. we have still had several air raid sirens today. in the town of mykolaiv, nine people were killed in a russian air strike on an office building in the pictures of that are striking. i use office building with a hole punched right through it where you can see the sky from side to side. what russia has offered to some of away from kyiv as he was saying and the defence of their has already stalled. one might wonder if richard really wanted to show some