a nazi paedophile or something. they will never forgive us for that," you said. "the art world is full of left—wingers who want to be millionaires." that's true. that's still true as well. they all became millionaires. if you say you're conservative to the taxi driver or the waiter, it's just an opinion. it's only in the art world they throw up their arms in amazement. it's quite silly. it is interesting... afterall, we — we —i mean, we were working—class people, starting out with nothing. it was an extraordinary journey that we did. and even that we managed to make an art that's completely different than any other art. and we — it's our vision. we create a new way of making picture for ourselves. and we created what's called the journey that is lived in, confronted lived like conservative or left—wing or right—wing or sexuality or religion that we hate in some big way. we are trite and then, we call it the moral — what was it? moral dimension.
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