on a new _ undercover informant who was working on a new device to provide secure communications for criminals, and he basically— communications for criminals, and he basically offered it to the fbi and they took— basically offered it to the fbi and they took it over, this device and they— they took it over, this device and they basically ran at, and it's also fascinating. — they basically ran at, and it's also fascinating, the details are that they started small, withjust fascinating, the details are that they started small, with just about 50 to _ they started small, with just about 50 to pieces, test in australia, and then through word of mouth through then through word of mouth through the criminal community, influencers within— the criminal community, influencers within the _ the criminal community, influencers within the underworld, these devices spread _ within the underworld, these devices spread in _ within the underworld, these devices spread in popularity beyond australia from around the world to measure _ australia from around the world to measure can imagine these kernels are saving — measure can imagine these kernels are saying this is a great way of munich— are saying this is a great way of munich eating securely. the authorities want to be able to listen — authorities want to be able to listen to. _ authorities want to be able to listen to, when, of course, that's exactly— listen to, when, of course, that's exactly what they were able to do for an _ exactly what they were able to do for an extended period of time. and so having set up this technology and having watched the conversations, those alleged to have distributed the phones have been now been arrested. let's go back to the attorney reperesenting southern california. charging 17 alleged distributors. these defendants are charged with violating the racketeer influenced and corrupted organisations act