the argument put forward by ms giuffre roberts council was strong. i thought the arguments put forward by prince andrew's council really met with what we call in america a very flat bench. the judge was simply not buying what they were selling. even if this case is dismissed, the prince is, say veteran royal watchers, badly damaged. when it comes to the monarchy, the monarchy is obviously an institution that is big enough to rise above what has happened but when it comes to prince andrew, one has to say that one can see no role in royal life for him in the immediate future or the intermediate future. now they wait. the judge in new york says a decision will come pretty soon. jonny dymond, bbc news. nada tawfik is in new york.