so the trees could still be standing if it hadn't bought the licence. logging naturalforests and converting them into pellets to be burned for electricity, that is absolutely insane. there's no other word for it. you said you don't cut down forests. so explain to me why you did cut down primary forest. our business model is based on, you know, using the materials other companies like the sawmill sector cannot use. where we have those logging licences, that same rule applies. right, so you are logging primary forests? we're not logging primary forests. you are, because you bid for the licence to log the primary forest, you won the licence to log the primary forest, you cut down the primary forest and then you paid the wood duties on the primary forest you'd cut down. the important thing is that we didn't use that material. the material from that area went to sawmills to make lumber. we took the sawdust, which we would have done anywhere else in the world, and in that particular case, because of the distances involved, we didn't take the slash. we've proved drax does damage primary forests. the company did it to get sawdust.