in public places. just talk about how the work came about, first of all. i was asked if i had an idea for how would you memorialise a disaster, effectively. 19,000 people dying in one day. i just thought to myself, "what would i like to see "as someone, what would be interesting for me to know?" and ijust thought, "well, it has to be living people "to represent the dead." and so the idea really occurred to me, most of it, in one go. it's just that people in very accurate uniform move through britain on that day, unannounced, and they kind of infect the body politic. it's like a virus effectively going through britain and these men. and it's slightly sinister, maybe, or off—putting or whatever. ghostly. yes. but they're more like phantoms. not that i know what a phantom is compared to a ghost, but was more like... it's not a haunting as such. but it's just the... it's the presence. so we're very much... ..3d and they're solid things. they're not like ghosts you can put your hand through. they're there and they, they won't talk to you, but they will sing