my name'sjerry hopkinson, and i'm the chief operating officer and vice—chairmen of pd ports. pd ports is the fifth largest port in the uk, we handle about 30 million tonnes a year, here on the river tees. because of the nature of the tees, we have to pretty much dredge constantly and have been for the last a0 or 50 years. whilst we're not doing it 21w, we're doing it six days a week. i've sat with fishermen, listened to guys ask me if i got paid last month, "cos i didn't," so i understand why people are looking