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BLOOMBERG Charlie Rose October 9, 2015

Roger ailes had to intervene. Megyn celebrates the second anniversary of her show this month as she continues to lead the 2016 election coverage. Here is a look at some memorable moments of her at work. Megyn in your oped, you write, rarely has a u. S. President been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many. But time and time again, history has proven that you got it wrong in iraq, sir. You said there was no doubt of Saddam Hussein having weapons of mass destruction. Who are you to potentially endanger the lives of those individuals who may have been in around the shelling . I did not say it was illegal. Megyn it is so much bigger than that. You could have murdered somebody with those bombs. And we didnt. But actually the people that were conducting the war in vietnam did murder people. Megyn does that make yourself a murderer as well . On the subject of iraq, very controversial, knowing what we know now, would you have authorize the invasion . I would have, and so would Hillary Clinton. And so what if almost anybody that was confronted with the intelligence they got. In retrospect, the intelligence that everybody saw that the world saw not just the United States was faulty. Megyn mr. Trump, one of the people things people like about you is you speak your mind and you not use a politicians filter. It is not without a downside, when it comes to women. You called women you do not like fat pigs, blobs and disgusting animals. Mr. Trump only rosie odonnell. Megyn no, it wasnt. Youve heard your critics. They say we covered it your critics say you are a sinner. You were married four times, twice to the same man, but divorced three times. That you had an affair while married. That you had children out of wedlock. And they look at you and say, who are you to judge others . Charlie wow. Define the kelly style. Megyn uh, i think fearless. I try to be fearless when i go out there on that set. I am not necessarily so in my real life. I try to be fair and balanced. I try not to take any bull. I do not allow talking points because i feel im an advocate for no one except for my viewers. If it is going to tick off my guest, im going to try to get to my talking points. The number one goal when i go out for every night, it is like cool water over a hot brain. We tackle difficult subjects. These are people who work or spend the day looking after their kids and they do not have a lot of time to read the news all day. So they have to digest complex subjects in record time. They do not want to have to rewind in order to understand the broadcast. If i can take those complex matters, break them down into small digestible bits and be their advocates to keep people on point, not go off into the talking points, not spin, stay relevant, then i have done my job. Charlie when you look at the preparation you do, what you looking for . Megyn i have a team of people who help me now. That was new. When i got to primetime, they gave me staff, which was wonderful. In the daytime, you do not have staff. I work with my executive producer and our editorial producer early in the morning to come up with what we think is the news of the day. Yes. So, our editorial producer has scanned the landscape. We have done our reading in. We talk about, what do we think the big story is today . And then later in the afternoon, we have a Conference Call and come up with our draft rundowns. This is our lead, this is our guest. And then by the time i get in and start in, it is probably i arrive at the studio around 3 30 and i start actually reading the packets the producers have given me in the 5 00 hour. Theyve done all that work prior to that. So i have it condensed into this nice packet. And that is all i do. From 5 00 until 9 00, i read as much as i possibly can. Charlie what time do you get home . Megyn after midnight. Once the show is over, i have a meeting with my team. What worked, what did not work. Then i go back to my desk and it is shangrila. My team has left. My kids are asleep. My husband calls me every night. We have a chat about the show, about the kids, our evenings because we do not get to spend our evenings together. Then, after that, i can answer all the emails i havent answered and do some phone calls and read that i want to read for pleasure. I love that time. Charlie is this what youve always wanted to do, even though you went to law school and became a trial lawyer . Was journalism, i know it was an interest, was it what you thought might be perfect for me . Megyn originally, yes. When i was in 10th grade, i took an aptitude test. And you know you just check this is what i am like and this is what interest me. It said i should become a journalist. So i did a one day internship, following a guy around at the albany times union. I loved it. It was so exciting to be in on the conversations he is having with a politicians and so on. So, i said this is for me. So i applied to the Syracuse Newhouse school. I wanted to go to syracuse my whole life. My father had taught there. I applied and they rejected me. Charlie why . Megyn they did not believe i had any feature in broadcast journalism. And said no. So i went to the Maxwell School at syracuse. Decided i would be a good District Attorney a prosecutor. When i went to law school, suddenly i realized i am in law school. I have debt. If i take a job with the manhattan da, i will be making 30,000 a year. You had to live in the borough in which are a prosecutor. You have manhattan rent with 130,000 in debt. That math i got. Charlie so you ended up at jones day where you were a trial attorney. At some point you worked yourself to near exhaustion. Because of ambition . Because of what . Megyn that is an interesting question. Nobody ever asked me before, why . The law is a jealous mistress and it demands much of those who practice it. But i do believe it is baked into my personality to be an over prepareer and to for throw myself into whatever project im doing. And fact, when i was making the switch from journalism, from law to journalism, i said to myself, whatever profession you pick next, you better make sure it is something that can have an end at the end of the day. Law does not. There is always another brief you can write. One of the things i love about journalism is this will literally be yesterdays news tomorrow. And you can turn the page. Charlie every day it is fresh. Megyn it is very rare you will do an all nighter to prepare for tomorrows news because it has not happened yet. That has worked out well for someone like me who did many all night is when i practice law because there was always more to learn. Charlie so, to look at your life, it seems to me there are two significant events. One, the law and leaving the law and the other was the death of your father when you were 15. Megyn yeah. That was unexpected. He was not sick. He had a massive heart attack 10 days before christmas in 1985. He was 45 years old. I was 15. And he dropped dead in our home next to the christmas tree. My mother and i were both home. My sister was home. The ambulance came and they tried to revive him and couldnt. My brother was in college nearby. He came to the hospital. Things would never be the same again. It was in no way something we anticipated. He had not had heart problems. We hadnt had anybody in our family except the grandparents pass away. And my mother was 44 years old, which is my age now, and found herself a widow. And it did change with three kids, two in college, and i was a sophomore in high school at the time. So she used my dads insurance money to pay for our college education. And continued working as a nurse. But it was hard. It was lifechanging in many ways, and the downsides are probably obvious. To your viewers. But there was a Silver Lining to that tragedy. And ive thought a lot about it. I believe that it has made me keenly aware of my own mortality. And it has led me to make better choices for myself in the 30 years, going on 30 years ive had since his death. Charlie for example . Megyn i do not think i wouldve made the switch out of my legal job had it not been for that awareness. That time is passing me by. And it will end. You really need to make the best choices for yourself or your here, as hard as that maybe. What i realized after nine years of practicing law, just because youre good at something does not mean it makes you happy. It was a tough realization. When you practice law or do any profession that you spent a lot of time in, it becomes part of your identity. Your ego gets linked to it. But i understood i was not happy. I needed to make a change. I also had a first husband whom i was married to for four years. He is a dear man. We are still friends to this day. But it was another area that i took an honest look at when i was changing my life to ask whether this is what i wanted forever more. And we wound up divorcing. Were still friends. He remarried and has kids. I remarried and had kids. But i do not think i wouldve necessarily found the courage to do those things had i not had that experience with my father. Charlie i read a story about you in which after you became first in reporting in washington, becoming anchor and then becoming prime time, a choice spot on cable television, especially at fox, that roger ailes said you have got to be more vulnerable. What was that about . Megyn well, he called me into his office not long after i joined fox. I was still reporting from d. C. Bureau as a general reporter. And he said, love the whole package. Love the look, love the smarts, love the presentation. Now who is the real you . And i was completely taken aback. What you mean . This is me. This is who i am. Typical roger, he did not buy it. He knew it was not exactly an act but a defensive shield. And he said, look, the viewers can smell a phony from a mile away. So i encourage you to be more vulnerable and take more risks. I know you are afraid of failure, but failure is ok. If you make a mistake, own up to it and not only will it not hurt your credibility with the viewers, it will gain you credibility. And i think, i was at a point in my life where i was ready to hear that. I think you can hear that advice and not act on it, but i was coming into my own at that moment. And i was ready to hear it. I did shed a lot of those layers and went forth unafraid. Charlie it is a special relationship between you and roger ailes . He takes a lot of credit for giving you the opportunity. He gives you more credit because you are the one who is outfront. Define the relationship. Megyn he is absolutely a mentor, also a friend. He is my boss. We are not equal. But i depend on him for friendship and sane, honest advice. He will give it to me. Never with respect to news coverage. People thinks that roger ailes is a republican operative. That is all bs. Never once in my 11 years has he told me how to cover a story. But he does give you advice on your personal life, on who you are and how you are transmitting on television, like even down to little things. When i first started, he would say, it is to rapidfire. Take some pauses. Slow down from time to time. He was right about that. He just has this xray vision into your soul, and he has a way of knowing what you need. If you need to be built up, he can do that. If you need to be checked on your ego, he can do that. And he has so many great stories, war stories of his years on this planet. He delivers it with gentle aplomb. Charlie can you imagine going to into his office and saying, ive decided to leave, i accepted an offer somewhere else . Megyn that would be a tough conversation to have. I mean, im not saying i would never leave. I would have to look at what ever opportunity came your way. But i really care about fox and i care about roger. And he has been nothing but good to me. And he has been very loyal. And he has had my back. And he has looked out for me. Those moments the debate moment, why did i have that . Because he put me in that position. He trusted me. Charlie how did he counsel you when donald said the things he said . Megyn i actually spoke with roger every day during that whole dustup. There was some reporting that he had abandoned me. He had chosen somebody over me. Charlie or he needed trump for ratings. Megyn that was not true. Roger and i spoke every day for over an hour at times. He wanted to make sure i was ok. He wanted to touch base on what he was thinking and what was happening on his end. He was hearing from trump a lot. Im sure they were talking a lot. He wanted to make sure i was ok with what he was thinking about how to handle it. I had an eyeball to eyeball on it. Neither one of us wanted a war with donald trump. We did not think that benefited the channel, we did not think it benefited me. And we do not think it benefited donald trump. Donald trump would say that now. We wanted to move forward, put a period at the end of it. He was obviously upset. That is fine. Hes running for president. It is not a fun business. There are going to be ups and downs. He considered that a downturn, so we wanted to forge forward and try to put it behind us, not pour any more fuel on that fire. Charlie do you want him back on your show . Megyn im sure he will come back on eventually. Charlie sooner rather than later . Megyn i think that will be a big moment. Right . So, i think we have to handle that just right. I cannot just pop him up there any night, because people will be anticipating that exchange. I want to ask him all the things people want me to ask them. Like, why did you get so upset . How do you feel about how it went in the days after . Any regrets . I think we both know the answer. No. I think it would be fascinating for he and i to have the exchange. Charlie what prevents you from having that now . Megyn nothing. I think i will know when the moment is right. Charlie has it been tough for you . Megyn no, ive been ok. Charlie some of the fox viewers who love you have mixed emotions. Megyn i understand that. Politics makes people feel so fired up. And they love the candidates they love. And it is very easy to hate and demonize the media. That is ok by me. That is the job i am in. That is what i have chosen. Charlie what was the toughest part for you . Megyn the most bizarre part was just being the news. As opposed to covering the news. Charlie and the things that were being said by donald. Megyn im not going to lie. That was not pleasant to read. It is a tough business. Journalism has become a very tough business. Charlie tell me about it. Megyn you have got to have a thick skin. Let me tell you, my mother told me early on, and it was reinforced many times over the years, there was a time when i lived in new york when i was young, and just out of law school, and i was not liking it and feeling sorry for myself. And i complained for a day and she let me. I complained for a second day and she let me. I complained on the third day, as she said, stop playing the victim. Not attractive. Charlie she has had a significant influence on you, your mother . Megyn very much so. The greatest influence of anyone in my life. Charlie you chose to not respond. Megyn right. Charlie why . Megyn because we were not in a war with donald trump. He was upset with us. We were not upset with him. Again, we just wanted to forge forward. And there was no reason to have a dustup with a president ial candidate whom we needed to cover. He is the subject of our news coverage. So, understanding those dynamics, there was no upside to saying anything more than i did. Charlie what is the status of his relationship with fox today . Megyn i think it is pretty good. What is it, october 7 . I think it is pretty good today. Charlie are you in your own mind different than your fellow anchors . Are you somehow a blend . Are you somehow more independent . Are you somehow in your mind, there is oreilly, there is hannity, and there is kelly . Megyn im certainly different narrator than oreilly and hannity in many ways. They are opinion guys. Bill will go out there and call for kates law and say this needs to be drafted in the wake of the murder of kate stanley. Hannity is an avowed conservative. I am not an ideologue, nor am i an opinion maker. Im a newsperson, journalist. Charlie do we even know what party belong to . Megyn i said i am an independent. I voted both republican and democrat in my life. Charlie is that important to you . You want the viewers to know that im different . Megyn it is not important that people know i am an independent. It is important to me that they see the program and they feel that, and they do not feel i have my thumb on the scale for either side. So, its incidental what my party label is. But i do think not being an ideologue has helped me in my journalism career. I think you can be very fair. Take brit hume, one of my mentors. He is a conservative. Former white house correspondent. He is a conservative guy. But you could never tell any of his political leanings when he was reporting the news as a straight news journalist. My goal is to go out there and have people not know. I have had many republicans say, yeah, we love your republican principles. And i say, you seem to much. Much. Assume too and many liberals pull me aside and say, we know youre one of us. I say, you assume too much. I can call out either side. I feel no allegiance to any of these politicians. Charlie are you surprised that the difficulties that Hillary Clinton is having . Does that go to the demand today for some sense of making sure that the voter appreciates your authenticity, make sure the voters can see the real person in their own judgment . Megyn she is absolutely struggling with that. She is trying to turn it around. Charlie saturday night live. Megyn that was a great appearance. She really hurt herself when she stayed quiet for so long on that email scandal. And i think she thought it was going to go away. She made some attempts to dismiss it as rightwing conspiracy which was complete nonsense. And the New York Times was breaking a lot of the stories, and i think she hurt herself. Those honesty numbers, the low polling numbers are directly linked to that. I know a lot of people who know her very well, who spend time with her weekly. And to a person, they say she is very charming. Shes funny, she has a big personality, she is sincere. She likes to have a cocktail, likes to tell dirty jokes. Up until this recent stint of interviews, she does not show any of that. It is not like you can go out there and crack dirty jokes and swing back the vodka martinis on the campaign trail. Charlie does she have a point when she takes on Kevin Mccarthy in saying in political ads, i was right . Were only doing this for political advantage. They are taking pride in the fact that they think they drove my numbers down because of the benghazi investigation and all the noise about the email. Megyn who would not have expected her to pounce on that statement . Charlie but he said it. Megyn that is my point. He sunk himself. What a thing to say. We had trey goudy on the show last night. He is chairing the benghazi committee. You can see the disappointment in his face. Whatever your feelings are, i think trey goudy believes what he is doing is impartial and not a witch hunt. He

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