Carson at 12 , with all the others on one hand. Three times the number of voters who said they would vote for trump fan in march. Great news. One topic that would come up between the front runners tonight is a New York Times story that says cruz did not disclose two loans from big banks, one from Goldman Sachs. After a rally in pensacola, we asked trump about this new issue. Mark there is a story in the New York Times about ted cruz not properly reporting a loan from Goldman Sachs. Are you concerned about that . Do you think voters should be . Mr. Trump its a big thing. I know nothing about it, but i hear it is a big thing. I hope he solves it. I think he is a nice guy. John we have not seen cruz respond yet, but a spokesperson said that goldmans sugar daddy issue would not be a problem, and then she used the opportunity to slam trump from being a birther. One thing that is getting under Donald Trumps skin, the attacks against ted cruz are not working. It has been questioned by donald trump, who is used to winning and is not winning at this point. He is trying to muddy the waters and show distractions from the facts that ted cruz is connecting with the voters of iowa. John everyone tonight is expecting this to be a big clash between these two titans. Who do you think will take the first swing . Mark if one of them does, it will be cruz. Cruz has been persistent in going after trump. Last night, he took a little shot on the Goldman Sachs thing, trump, but he would be negative going against cruz. I think he would be happy going out of the debate with a draw. John for the reason that you said very explicitly, the moderators will ask ted cruz about his canadian birth and whether it makes him eligible, they will point out that trump is driving this issue, and cruz will be forced to swing at it. I thought last night that the body language around trump suggested that he was holding back last night in anticipation of this very event, and when this event transpires, he will pop cruz on the noggin. Mark we have not seen what it looks like, a full on cruztrump engagement. It will be the most important thing to happen since jeb bush took a swipe at marco rubio. They both say they are friends. People say that in politics all the time. You think they are . John no, i do not. Mark that could have an impact. Now to the establishment lane, where four candidates could fight to be an alternative to trump and cruise, marco rubio Chris Christie, and john kasich. All of them have a claim to stake, but they all start with problems. Bush released a new tv ad in New Hampshire today. Just one other thing, donald trump is a jerk. Donald trump is facing new criticism for something he did on the campaign trail last night in South Carolina. He appeared to mark a reporter with a disability. I dont know what i said, i dont remember that just made me so angry. I told my wife, im not going to let that stand. I have to do something to make sure donald trump is not the nominee. Mark bush hitting trump in a new ad. What is his challenge for tonight . John i think in this point, his attempts to become the antitrump has not worked. He needs to focus on the other establishment candidates. Mark i think the challenge is not going after trump versus going after others, it is going after trump versus going after his establishment brand. I think if there is an opening to get trump, he has to do it, but this is the time for him to go back to the principles of his campaign and say, i am the adult in the room. John lets move onto to marco rubio. He is the one that is best positioned. What is his challenge tonight . Mark if he is hit, he has to show that he can defend himself strongly. The other thing, i think he still has to establish an identity with republicans. Why rubio . What is the argument . He has to be a titan if he wants to get into the game with with trump and cruz. John i think we have previewed clearly yesterday where this was going to go with rubio, which is straight to the gang of eight. If rubio does not have a powerful, strong answer on immigration, he will be in trouble. Mark what is Chris Christie have to do tonight . John he is another person i think is going to get hit for being too much of a moderate and a liberal. I think christie has to figure out how to answer those charges and make sure that people come out thinking he is conservative. Mark i think he has the biggest challenge of the establishment guys, because he knows what to do in these debates, but he has been very good. I think he can retell attacks very easily. But i think he is the best at turning from a bad question or situation to something he wants to say. John i agree. The one thing that is different is that there is new information out there he will have to deal with. The last establishment guy, john kasich, what is his challenge . Mark he has to have breakthrough moments. He has had bad high profile moments. He needs one or two moments of strength that are high profile and show up on the news. John he had a very good first debate, but hasnt had a good one since. He has often started strong and then petered out as the evening goes on. He has to be consistently strong all evening long, and he has to be the same john kasich from the beginning to the end. In the past, he has gone out and previewed a new john kasich and giveup halfway through. He has to be consistent and the same. Let kasich be kasich. Moving on, your twitter feed will give you all the alleviation do you could ever want, so lets go briefly into bolivia asian about the democratic race. A new poll out today confirms the race is burning up. Bernie sanders has closed the gap in iowa, trailing clinton by two percentage points, which given the margin of error means that this race is a statistical dead heat. In our last poll a month ago, clinton was ahead by nine full points. While she still leads among women, sanders has the advantage with groups responsible for obamas success, first time caucusgoers and young voters. What do you think the chances are that one of these candidates is going to get hot and pull away in an appreciable way on caucus night . Mark i dont think sanders can do that in iowa. Too many voters there are not going to switch. I think she can. She is trying to break his back. I think it is possible that she might go up to a six point lead in this race over the next two weeks before the voting, because she is trying to change the dynamic. He is fine with his trajectory, but i dont know that he will get much higher. John there is pulling out right now that suggests late breakers are headed towards clinton, which gives balance to your argument. But it feels to me like sanders has the momentum. He is advertised more heavily than she is on television. I am actually of the view that this is going to be a total coin flip on caucus night. Mark i and too. There is a throw everything against the wall and see what sticks quality to the campaign. They are being much more reactive and a competent campaign normally would be. Coming up, our late night conversation with donald trump last night in pensacola, florida. What he said about ted cruzs Goldman Sachs loan and more, after this. Goldman is one of the biggest banks on wall street. My criticism with watching jen is that they engage in crony capitalism. Thats why i have been an outspoken opponent of crony capitalism, taking on leaders in both parties. Big business, if they are building a bigger mousetrap, great, but it shouldnt be government favoring. An example, doddfrank. Sold to the American People as too big to fail. What happened . The big banks have gotten bigger. Goldman has gotten bigger. Mark that was back in march when ted cruz stopped by our studio. Among other things, we talked about Goldman Sachs. Cruzs ties to goldman are in the news because of the New York Times story about tim taking out a loan from them in 2012 which is campaign own knowledges he did not fully disclose. John and i sat down in pensacola, florida with the candidate cruz needs to overcome, donald trump, who was just off a rally, and we started off talking about ted cruz and Goldman Sachs. Big story in the New York Times about ted cruz and not having reported properly a loan in his Senate Campaign from Goldman Sachs. Are you concerned about that . Do you think voters should be . Mr. Trump it is a big thing. I know nothing about it, but i hear it is a big thing. He is a nice guy and i hope he gets itself. Mark you have been in the spotlight for years, he has not. Do you think it is possible that there are lots of things about him and his background now that he becomes a leading candidate . Mr. Trump i dont know. He hasnt been until the last few days. The reason is, ive been doing very well. He has been really terrific. I just hope thats not a big problem for him. John it looks like it could just be you and him. As you said, he is hitting you now. Yesterday, he said that you have new york values. Is that a criticism to you . Mr. Trump i embrace new york. That world trade center, worst attack ever in the united states, worse than pearl harbor. They attacked people while having breakfast. The way they handled that attack was one of the most incredible things that anybody has ever seen. Here we have these two massive, 100 10 story buildings coming down with all of the death, destruction. Even the air, atmosphere, and smell of death. Very few cities couldve handled it like that. I will tell you something, new york city and new york got a tremendous boost all over the world. You look at the area, it is incredible what they rebuilt. When people want to knock new york, you should not be doing it because you have a massive population, but if you have to knock new york, you have to go through me. New york is an amazing place with an amazing people. John he said to a group of new york donors that you might not have the judgment to control a nuclear arsenal. Compare your temperaments. Mr. Trump we all have strong permits, but in all fairness i did not want to go into iraq. I was not the one who said, dont go into iraq, i was the one who said, take out Osama Bin Laden before he knocked out the world trade center. I am the one who said dont go in. I am modest. I want to build a military. Nobody wants to play games or mess with us. My tremendous is the best. Some of the greatest assets anywhere in the world, one of the great companies. All private, i owned it. Even you guys were shocked at how big an good it is. I will never forget, they all said i would never run and i ran. They never thought i would file, and i filed. They said, you will never put in his financials, and i turned out to be much richer. You cant build a company like that unless you have a great temperament. John what about his . Mr. Trump honestly, i dont know. He has a lot of problems with a lot of people. A lot of people dont like him. They dont want to be called liars on the senate floor. Frankly, it is pretty tough stuff. But at the same time, he is pretty upset, like i am. I was asked tonight, are you angry because nikki they said i was angry. I said to myself, i am a greedy because my country is being run by an competent people. It does make me angry, and thats why i am running and doing this. Mark you have said getting along with people is an important thing. Would you say your record of getting along with people is better than his . Mr. Trump i get along great with people. People dont know about that, i bring people together. My biggest disappointment with president obama is that he is a divider, not a unifier. I am a unifier. It is one of my great traits. You remember, before i was going to run, they said he gets along with democrats, liberals, everybody. As a businessman, i had that obligation to get along with everybody, because otherwise i probably would not have done so well, but i get along with everybody. Mark so you get along with People Better than he does . Mr. Trump i think most people would say that. People who know me would say that. Mark we asked trump about it. If it comes down to a twoperson race, where do you think trump is going to go after cruz . John people like to drop a lot, and he does not think people genuinely like ted cruz. Trump has great faith in his own magnetism, and in the end of the likable candidate wins. Mark of all the other candidates, who is the most likely for trump to put on the ticket . John of all the people in the race . Mark yeah. John i would not be surprised if john kasich goes after the ticket. They have not gone after each other very much. There was a brief interlude where they did. But i think trump will be captivating about this. Mark it was said, of course trump will take somebody from the establishment. I think it could end up trumpcruz. You said they were not really friends. There is a strength to their performance and fundraising skills that would be formidable. John what i meant earlier was to say, you and i are friends. I dont think they are friends in the way we are friends. Mark more from our interview with donald trump later in the program, but when we come back we will get a reaction from a former ted cruz supporter, a former attorney general joins us right after this. John joining us now here at the Republican Debate site in north charleston, South Carolina, is a former attorney general. Great to see you here. Everybody assumes tonight will be a brawl between ted cruz and donald trump. John joining us now here at the Republican Debate site in north charleston, South Carolina, is a former attorney general. Great to see you here. Everybody assumes tonight will be a brawl between ted cruz and donald trump. Guest not to that extent. I think there will be changes, but not that it will reach the level of brawl. I think the strategy you have seen is kind of natural for him, to hug. He has been sort of teased about it. I dont think you will see him toss the first punch. John but the gloves have come off in the last few days around this issue of cruzs canadian birth. Donald trump has gotten under the skin of almost everybody as he has gone after them. It seems here he may have gotten under the skin of ted cruz. Do you agree . Guest he has not done anything more than muddy the water with a few people. Ted hughes in good shape, or a when not have gotten on board with him. He is in as good of a legal position as john mccain. They were both born in foreign territory. Mark but if a judge has ruled on this guest if you want to say, if the Supreme Court has ruled mark judges can rule any which way. Senator cruz goes around saying, its settled, its a settled issue. Guest hes right. It is settled in the sense that people who make the legal decision in all 50 states have already decided it. They put john mccain on the ballot. Mark is the role that Goldman Sachs plays in our economy good or bad for america . Guest certainly, you need financiers. That goes back to the revolutionary era. One of the wellwritten parts of that history is how we financed the war, the answer is that we barely did. Mark do you have anything to say about the role Goldman Sachs plays in the economy . Guest on wall street, the advantages they get. What ted was talking about, what they brought to wall street is protection. It is a great example of why washington tends to favor the big guys. No matter what they say. And ted has been a populist in the good sense. He has supported legislation that is good for everyone, not just special interests. John there is the possibility that the establishment for never consolidate and this is a ted cruzdonald trump race. You are confident that cruz will win big because you have endorsed him. Guest i dont endorse him because he is going to win, i endorse him because he is the best for america. Like ted, i have gotten battles that are very unlikely to win, because it is the worst place to be. I think he is very likely to win here. John why does he be donald trump oneonone . Guest while donald has a lot of passion in fighting the establishment, he occasionally does things like attacking ted cruz because he does not get along with people in washington. The only people ted cruz does not along with our people inside the beltway. He gets along with everyone else just fine. Cruz has a track record of fighting the establishment. Mark what month will we know that the republican nominee is going to be . Guest april. John might not be a bad answer. Thank you for coming on. When we come back, the rest of our conversation with donald j trump, and why he says his campaign is more bigger and powerful than the one that put Ronald Reagan in the white house. Remember, if youre watching us in washington, you can now listen to us on the radio. We will be right back. Mr. Trump wow. Amazing amazing mark there is no better way to prepare for a debate that with a huge rally in pensacola, florida. There are three things a republican candidate must do, love america, love freedom, and love reagan. Trump tried to win the gipper game in a sensational way. Rallies have become the signature events of this entire campaign. Im wondering, how do you feel when you are up there react go is it exciting . Mr. Trump when i look at an arena, when you have close to 15,000 people. I dont know if you know, 5000 to 7000 people were turned away, which makes me feel bad. Other people come here and they will have 103 people, 59 people, just a few people. There were just telling me outside, the political people you know, they were saying other candidates come here and get 100 people. Well, i had 15000 and we sent away 5000. I feel great. Mark and how would you describe your style as a speaker . Mr. Trump i think it is important that i do not read a speech. I have a great memory, so i can do that. I think it is important that i dont use a teleprompter. None of the candidates would get up there without speeches or anything in front of that many people. You also have Live Television cameras. But you develop a great excitement and a bond. It is a movement. Its not like a person coming in, making a speech, and leaving after 20 minutes. There is love in that room. You see Standing Ovations every few minutes. They want to see america become great again. They know it is a problem. They