In the State Capitol today in indianapolis at the governors residence, donald trump at his children had breakfast at the home of one of his top vp contenders, mike pence who auditioned as donald trump number two at an audition rally last night. Senatort gingrich and Jeff Sessions of alabama came to the Hoosier State today for their own lastminute face to face huddles with the candidate at a downtown hotel. The candidate also reportedly called Chris Christie to be a finalist as well. If you are on all confused on his stance, do not worry. The candidate cleared it up today in the interview with fox news. Mr. Trump the level of receptivity has been incredible and the governor has been amazing. So, we will see what happens. Newt gingrich is coming in today to see me. You are down to two . Mr. Trump no. Chris christie is someone i like. He is a total professional and a lot of people do not understand that. I am narrowing it down. I am at three and potentially four, but in my own mind, i am thinking about two. Mark john, i have been on the ground all day trying to follow the bouncing ball from indianapolis. Where you are from cleveland where donald trump will speak next week, where does the running mate search stand . John after all of the drama of morningwith the pence and we thought, maybe he is just the guy and then we learn sessions and gingrich are on the way to indiana, that the family had met with Chris Christie earlier, that he was on the phone earlier with donald trump today, we are not that far away from where we were 24 hours ago. I believe we have a short list and the short list is three people, Newt Gingrich, Chris Christie, pence, and maybe sessions. Re does not seem to go does not see much to go with her. Mark i think sessions is done as a courtesy. I think the other three are somewhat in play. The thing i have been saved, and i think it is still true in a number of donald trump a have heard me say, yes, you are right on this. If he goes with the safeway, the thing that we unite the conservative movement, the thing that would allow him to be at the top of the ticket and not have the risk of a running mate that would cause distractions, he will go with governor pence. If however he goes with the people he is more comfortable with, he will go with either gingrich or christie. Both of them have known things in their political games that could be distractions. They can cause distraction by things they say or by the background and we do not know how heavily donald trump is waiting them. Them. Hing john right. What paulome sense of manna for prefers. Donald trump still needing to consolidate support among republicans, still having problems doing that with conservatives, hence giving him a good car to play with conservatives. Paul ryan made a comment about how he would like to be reassured that donald trump is a genuine conservative. You can see the argument for know, but at the end, you looking into the eyes of people that he without just be putting on the ticket in a campaign setting, but who they would like to govern with if they became the president of the United States is a huge thing. That gut check matters. He does not seem like a guy afraid of distractions on the basis of his campaign so far, so maybe the distraction factor will not matter so much. Maybe he will say, screw it, i want to be with christie, Newt Gingrich is my kind of guy. Mark i think he likes the distractions. This does show the closeness he has with his family, something i have never seen at this level. John new details are out at this hour about the lineup at the Upcoming Convention in philadelphia. Who is number one . Michelle obama, Bernie Sanders all expected to speak on monday night the first night of the convention. Two nights later, president obama will take the stage. That is all we know. It is a hell of a lot more we know about the vandy Republican Convention. Cruz, scott walker will be be speaking. After week of waiting for the full schedule, we have got gotten it. This comes after wide speculation of security. Mark, considering all of this, how likely do you think it is that the Republican National convention is going to be a uck . L cluster cli mark . They are well behind what they have been reporting. On the other hand, this is an area where donald trump can define gravity. Time on thehey fill stage and stuff happens on stage that feeds the beast and keeps the action moving in the room, they will be ok. It is not that much programming. It is not 24 hours of programming, but it is a high wire thing and they are a little bit in danger of falling off of the wire. Look, that they cap yet, and i do not think you would disagree with this, it was the Security Issues and what happens on the streets of cleveland. Given what has happened in america over the course of the last week, images of chaos, images of disorder, images that can get worse than just chaotic, that can involve violence can quickly overwhelm anything going on on the convincing stage. Convention stage. If that happens, this could be a disaster for donald trump and his chance to become president of the United States. Mark theres not much they can do about that. If they had more time and more bandwidth amongst high command, they could be coordinating with the secret service and local police a way of giving people more confidence. Just to get back to the schedule. Taking the speakers is the first step, then you have to figure out the orders people are speaking it, coordinate their presentations. They do not want another Clint Eastwood situation. This is an area where trumps showmanship and family could pay for what could be for a normal campaign and existential crisis. Almost a week after the gala shootings that killed five Police OfficersHillary Clinton invoked president lincolns house divided speech. Her speech, which came a day after president obamas for the dallas officers urged americans to appreciate the difficult work that police do and also called for ending the systematic racism that plagues our country or can after clinton pleaded guilty for stoking political tensions on the campaign trail herself, she took aim at her general election opponent. Ms. Clinton as someone in the middle of a hotly fought political campaign, i cannot stand here and claim that my words and actions have not sometimes fueled the partisanship that often stands in the way of progress. So i recognize i have to do better. And times like these, we need a president who can help pull us together, not split is a part. That is why i believe donald trump is so dangerous. He says that he does not win in quote,r we, and again i will not even have a country anymore. America is not going to get any of to survive. I do not know what he is talking about. This man is the nominee of the party of lincoln. We are watching it become the party of trump. Loss forot just a huge our democracy. It is a threat to it. Made the Clinton Campaign the remarks. Sincens first speaking donald trump claimed himself as the law and order candidate. The story is have both candidates have responded to last week was a shooting. How did clinton do . John what she is trying to do is pretty clear, seems to be the candidate, if there is an optimistic candidate in a pessimistic canada, she wants to be the candidate of optimism, guarded optimism, realistic optimism. She wants to paint trump as a divider and also someone that traffics in the kind of apocalyptic rhetoric that is sometimes appealing to certain sections of the electric but at the end, has not ever want a general election. She has to put herself on the side of light and him on the sign of dark. She frames it relatively well from her point of view politically today. That does not mean trump is a message is still not powerful, but she is sticking out clear ground. Mark people talk about how donald trump will not acknowledge any mistake, but clinton is not too far off. She says her imos were a mistake but did not say what about it was a mistake. For her to say in a heartfelt way but also a shrewd tactical way that she has been part of a dialogue that might be considered divisive, i think that is smart. Her argument in the end about donald trump as unreasonable is a pretty big concession to make. This see if she can keep tone up. I am not sure this speech will break through for many voters. Unless she sustains the tone and ideas. John i have to say, you cannot really know the answer to this question, but right now, especially less than a week away from all of the stuff that happened last week in baton rouge, minneapolis and then in dallas, i think there are a lot of people in the country that wanted unifying figure, not a divisive figure and Hillary Clinton is betting she can be the unifier in contrast to trump. When we come back, donald trump and his picking up of a memento and battleground state polls. All of that right after this. John welcome back. We saw battleground state polls in on these today that tells a interesting story. Donald trump gaining ground on Hillary Clinton. The new abc news wall street poll showed donald trump type of clinton in ohio where he trails are six points a couple months ago. Hillary is still ahead and a couple states like colorado where she is up by 13 and in wisconsin where she is up by six. Donald trump has closed the gap in other states, including the key battleground state of florida with a University Poll has him ahead. That is an 11 point swing. Yesterday we told you about it bloombergpolitics poll that showed clinton with a big lead among collegeeducated voters. That does not usually happen for democrats. Just look at all of these polls, ours from yesterday in the ones that have come out today. What are the implications of these numbers . Mark people are going to have to get used to a difference in the National Polls and they polls. The political reality is great for trump on the eve of the convention. It allows him to feel like he has momentum and argue to the delegates where there might be some wavering. This guy can win 270 electoral votes, so get in line. For the clinton folks, they are not happy about it, and on another level, they believe the biggest challenge is getting democrats, donors, activist, volunteers to believe this is a visible race into the energized loseable race into the energized to make it a winnable race. John in the case of many of these polls, they were conducted in the wake of the comey ruling last week where there were no recommendations for charges over the email controversy, and then took her to the woodshed even as he let her off of the hook. It seems as though, for some number of voters, his criticism of clinton have sunk in because you can see in all of these, trump has gained some ground. That is the big take away in the background states. At least in terms of timing, it seems the comey decision, although giving her a spare of prosecution, it may have hit her temporarily on the poll end. Mark if it is true that these polls represent the accurate notion that donald trump is doing better and it is the case omey thing was a factor you may say the press overemphasized donald trump was a failure. To take advantage. Of course, on the other hand you can argue if he made a consistent talking point about it, he may have gotten even more of a bounce out of these polls. Mark you could argue that. You could argue that. Atw that stat spt between donald trump and ruth bader ginsburg. She did not even want to think about the possibility of donald trump in the white house. On the day she told cnn that donald trump was a faker and called him out for not releasing his tech returns tax returns. Donald trump call those comments inappropriate. Only the frontrunner went as far to send a midnight tweet about this matter saying, Justice Ginsburg has embarrassed us all while making very dumb political statements about me. Her mind a shot. John, is that a good idea to take this fight with the notorious rpg . Rbg . John it was unusual for ginsburg to do what she did and probably inappropriate. Mark definitely inappropriate. Repudiated by some democrats. Justice did that to a democratic candidate, i think people john if you let me finish what i was going to say, i was going to say we are on the same page. The question is whether donald trump gets much benefit after attacking her the way he is. It is one of these things where trump in a sober way to attention and say what you just said and i just said, everyone in the world, not everyone in the world, everyone in the world who is not hopelessly partisan would say donald trump is right here. To say ginsburg has lost her mind, that is kids fighting on a schoolyard and account a place to the notion that trumps temperament may not be that great. He can make the same point without attacking her personally. Mark if you are from the school of thought that says a lot of the selection will use the court to support your base, he wants to get the notion that the liberals on the Supreme Court need to be replaced by conservatives and this is going to get attention. Ontoallows them to glob it. Not appealing to that many people in the center but he has some people on the left criticizing ginsburg. John i do think we should note it is an incredible fight, something we have never seen before, amazing. Just amazing. Of the next, we have two allstar democratic strategic masterminds. S. They are joining us after these words from our sponsors. Mark with us now from chicago obamasrvell and barack former White House Communications director, anita dunn. We want to run through the people on Donald Trumps final list for vp. The good and bad in short about what you see with each prospect. What do you think of the prospect of trump picking mike pence . It could certainly help them carry indiana, perhaps which is the good. He is not exciting. He is not dynamic and he has some real negatives from his time as governor. Mark james, what do you think . I think it will help the democrats carry indiana. He cannot carry the governorship, how is he going to help trump win anything . Pence. Oney is on you guys think mike pence is a bad idea. What about Chris Christie he is a good running mate for donald trump. Do only thing he ever had to is debate, he would do well. Unfortunately, he brings his record in his personality with them. I think that outweighs his performance in the debate. John james, do you think that is right . You know, it is something. He crushed marco rubio in one of the most compelling moments in president ial debates. There is a lot of downside to go with some potential upside. The democratic Vice President nominee can only win a debate is a big assumption. It is clear that we are agreeing this much. Weird that we are agreeing this much. Thinki am curious if you Newt Gingrich is a better option than the other two . The combinedk approval ratings, i do not think it would add up to 75 . I think this is a reflection of a deeper problem they have. Guyrich is an aggressive and i guess donald trump things he could attack hillary and give him some slack to do other things. That is all i can think of. It is interesting because they did have a number of potential choices that mentioned early they did not have any interest in running with donald trump. Gingrichhat temperamentally is someone donald trump is comfortable with. We think that is important. Nothing says future like someone that was a speaker in 1995. John what about Jeff Sessions . I am not sure what Jeff Sessions brings to the ticket besides trumps ability to Say Something he had someone in washington that could help him with the legislator. I think senator sessions is someone that trump seems comfortable with as well. He is very partisan, from a deep south state that will not be competitive. Again, he gets and the ability to say he picked someone. I just think if you look at the people they are talking , if i am a republican, i should be sick about this election, the choices i have for Vice President as i would be for president. I kind of think that is obvious. Duo more with the country right after this. Stay tuned. Back in just a moment. . C sv mark back now with James Carville and anita dunn. Last segment, we talked about trumps Vice President options. Lets talk about Hillary Clinton, the kind of conventional wisdom remains. Leave tim kaine aside for a second. What is another name out there with it should be other that you think would be a Good Alternative to cain if she decides against him . Anita ive always in a fan of having elizabeth born on this war and on this ticket. Elizabeth warren connects extremely well with voters concerned about economic inequality. I think it would be a great ticket. Name yout is a would like . I would like a Chris Christie and Elizabeth Warren debate. That is something i would like to see. Sherrod brown, tom vilsack, the castros i dont think we are going to know. My guess is shes going to be very deliberate, listen to everybody, Read Everything and make up her mind later. If he picks Chris Christie, please take Elizabeth Warren because that Vice President ial debate would be one for the ages. [laughter] john james, let me stay with you. If you are thinking about the running mate selection as trying to address a political problem or a vulnerability, what is the main vulnerability clinton needs to solve with a running mate selection . If you look at the polls and ac