Is if if the president of the United States continues to call in aides and instruct them or give them leave to go out and make comments and starts exciting inconsistent with what the policy is of the administration or changing it, i think that the general is going to have to do this hes going to have to tell the president , look, mr. President , if youre going to tweet, let us know beforehand and let us take a look at it, if you will, and also folks coming into your office, when they come out of your office, if you call them in, instruct them that they will have to come by me and inform me whats been said, and hes going to have to structure this thing. I dont know whether thats going to work, but i do know that those below the general, given what he did today, i think will have gotten the message, and i think hes certainly got the possibility of imposing a new sense of discipline and order on the staff below him but were dealing with the president of the United States i mean, thats one that i dont have a solution to. Hey, pat, its bill griffeth. I apologize if youve already talked about this, but weve been kind of busy for the last 15 minutes or so getting ready for this particular hour maybe youve already addressed this, but i have a question for you. Knowing what you know about how washington at least used to work, are you surprised we havent heard much of anything from the leadership in congress, the senate and the house, about all of this the last few weeks you know, the speaker, the majority leader and so forth what do you make of that no, im not really. Heres youve got to realize where the congress s. Look, they were stunned and surprised and upset to a degree by the fact that donald trump won, and what it said to them is that donald trump really has his finger on the pulse of the country better than we did. He beat all of our top figures, governors, senators and the rest, so he knows something we dont know secondly, donald trump does have a constituency out there, and ive always argued that trumps constituency, he brings in real freshness, energy with the new nationalists and economic patriots and the antiinterventionists, and if you can marry that to the traditional republicans who go for Strong Supreme Court justices like gorsuch, youve got the makings of a new majority, and the reason some of these republicans on the hill are hesitant, i mean, the political reason is quite simply that if they take on and go after the president , they may get cheers from the beltway press, like john mccain got, but when they go home they are also going to hear from a part of their constituency which is appalled that they are turning on the president , so i think this induces a sense of paralysis. He stole your constituency, pat. They are good folks but let me say one problem that the general is going to have is the general having served in the marine corps all that time is probably not deeply conversive with all the major political, if you will, causes and factions and groups that are on the hill the way Reince Priebus would have known them, and he certainly needs to have folks in that senior staff meeting that are conversive with all these groups and elements, including, as i think john said, they were my folks. Its brian. I know weve got to get over to bill and sara, sorry there was a quick comment from the white house that Anthony Scaramucci decided it would be best to leave and let general kelly have a clean slate any chance that Anthony Scaramucci left on his own i think he could have gotten indication that that would be a good idea, and and it would be good that he be allowed to resign, but i think he probably walked in and knows what i was talking about on the weekend i was i wished i could be at the first senior staff meeting when the general looks down the table at the mooch well, its its quite a term that you have to say, guys, that here is a guy who in six months time has apparently lost his company, he has lost his marriage, we find out over the weekend, as his wife is suing for divorce and now hes lost his job in the white house. Should be an Interesting Press briefing in about 40 minutes time, guys. Hey, guys, could i ask pat buchanan one more question sure, if you must. Okay. Pat, the question is what is the chance that as one republican told me the other day, that this new iteration of the Trump White House is essentially going to go to war with the Republican Congress and fashion itself as kind of an independent force as you eventually did after a couple of runs for president as a republican the trouble with doing that is, look, youre 52 votes in the senate, and you need all of those folks if youre going to get through your programs, your tax cuts, your infrastructure and the rest of it, even if youre going to have another run at health care, and so once you get in, even if youre an outsider like reagan was an outsider, had very few supporters i was with him in 5076, had almost nobody but paul laxall and once you get into the white house, and the idea, is and i know people youre bringing up nixon, is you pull together all the wings of the party and all the elements in the party because you need them all to go over the top, and if you go to war with your party, i mean, thats fine politically at certain times, but you cant be an outsider running against your party when youre in the oval office all right very good. Pat buchanan, great to hear from you, and your insights with all the historical portions of that, thank you to the gang on power lunch as well we were catching our breath with all thats gone on. I would note, bill, always look for Market Reaction from these types of things and while stocks are hovering at record highs. Yes. The u. S. Dollar has been the place where the political uncertainty, the volatility has been playing out, and there was a move after this headline hit, the New York Times with the dollar ticking lower and euro going up story of the month which well talk on final trading day and a lot has to do with the uncertainty surrounding the trump agenda and the political uncertainty. Its a relative bet in currencies not seeing it in stocks and theres the intraday chart to prove it. Dollar going lower since the beginning of the year. Hit that high late last year, index of 103, and it hasnt hit back in that time. As well reset here. Lets do that with Kayla Tausche back at the white house. And let me just you probably dont know the answer, maybe you do, whether or not they have rescheduled the White House Press briefing that was supposed to be at 3 45 eastern time whats going on with that, do you know reporter we havent heard, bill, one way or another whether that briefing is still scheduled as planned on camera with Sarah Sanders or whether the plans for that has changed do i want to read for you one more time the statement we did just get a few minutes ago from the office of the press secretary. This is not coming directly from the president. This is coming from the press office it says Anthony Scaramucci will be leaving his role as White House Communications director. Mr. Scaramucci felt it was best to give chief of staff john kell clean slate and the ability to build his own team. We wish him all the best this is surprising news considering scaramucci had served in that job for not even two weeks time but perhaps not surprising considering the events that transpired over the last week and in particular that interview that was on the record for at least a large portion of it with a reporter from the new yorker. For a Communications Director to hold a phone call that is on the record that contains the content that that interview did, much of it not safe to repeat on television, perhaps is one reason why members of the press profession and some of those here in the press office were concerned that perhaps he did not have the expertise required for this job, and it appears that job kelly has shared that view and has requested for mr. Scare mutual toe resign. Kayla, on this theme of general kelly coming in and scaramucci a controversial ten days it and reince, always questions and rumors swirling that he would depart anyone else that were looking at, that were wondering about as he cleans house reporter theres questions about how well general kelly and steve bannon will get along at this point bannon and Reince Priebus butted heads on more than one occasion, but bannon is said to have developed a relationship with Jared Kushner, the president s soninlaw somewhere along the way. Its unclear exactly who his alliance becomes at this point and whether general kelly will bristle at some of the nationalisttype policies that bannon has traditionally espoused or whether hell be a more moderating an stabilizing force within the west wing as far as policy and legislation is concerned, this is not necessarily kellys wheelhouse, brings a wealth of geopolitical experience, a retire marine Corps Commander and general, four stars, so obviously commands a huge amount of respect, but in terms of actually working pieces of legislation through congress, that is still an open question here, and how he gets along with the legislative affairs team is key to watch as well. Kayla, let you get bark to work, do some more reporting and let us know what you find out as we move along here the dow up 75 points, the loan gainer abeing mott major averages and puts it in record territory. Joining us on the phone is a former White House Communications director under bill clinton, don behr thanks for joining us. Have you caught your breath yet . This all just happened, sure, you about im pressing just fine, things. You know how the white house face lets gas it donald trump is hes run his own business hes in charge and i guess he is still figuring things out. Unfortunately, he seems to be responding more to passion than to reason, and a lot in a lot of the decisions that hes been making look, scaramucci was never qualified to be White House Communications director. The Job Description is not tonight court jester its a very different role than the one he seems to have imagineled he was going to do or that President Trump understands, and and this is a good move by general kelly, and i guess the president. The question will be, of course, what they are going to do to actually try to bring more discipline as well as creativity, collaboration into the Communications Process and message and what they are saying from this white house, but these issues, usually when you talk about Communications Problem they are not Communications Problems alone they are substandin problem, who is leading the white house from the top down and what they are actually accomplishing and how they are executing on that thats been the problem for this white house from the start. Don, are you saying the most that seems a little bit chaotic and volatile after ten days with the Communications Director, an effort to restore facility had you looking ahead more towards tax reform today which weve been talking about. Two different questions a smart move scaramucci should never have been in the job to begin with and nothing in his background that qualified him for it and the way he behaved in the first week indicated that he was the wrong person for the role. So i think this is an indication that general kelly and in his new role as chief of staff expects po sake some pretty amatterive steps and discipline and process no this white house for how they house the form that they have in inspire country are. The kwekd thing is go to have an inform that they will finish no agenda completely unthibl do that an i would say that that stem al lone indicates that we should be confidence about that. Lets bank in sayral faguer, what you mick first fwlfrm and what happens now i think this was a strong move by general kelly. He asserted himself. You know, one of the things that i think is so important for a chief of staff to be successful is that you have to have hiring and Firing Authority and he made very clear today he has Firing Authority, and i think, you know, anthony Anthony Scaramucci for all his strengths was probably the wrong person for that job, demonstrated that last week certainly, and and putting somebody in there who knows the press works can build bridges with the press and who can put out the president s message is really the direction this white house needs to go in. Sara, sean spicer, Reince Priebus and now Anthony Scaramucci all in a matter of days what does that tell us about how the inside of the white house, the inner circle of President Trump is functioning right now reporter well, you know, certainly, you know, before friday it was imploding, and and, you know, based on the firings and dismissals you just mentioned, you know, we that playing out real time on the world stage. Very problematic, certainly on the global stable this new chief of staff has been in the job for one day and has had a strong day so far. I think one of the things about getting rid of Anthony Scaramucci is that it will send a message to the rest of the staff that there is a nowyard in the wet wing and at least as of today President Trump is backing him up on that i think thats important i hope the president continues to do that moving forward. Its important to have a strong chief of staff that can set processes in place that the staff follows so day one general kelly gets very high marks. Don, i know much is made with the departure of Reince Priebus, that that was the last link that donald trump had with the Republican Party in the white house. Does it behoove him to choose another republican insider for that job, or what kind of person do you think hell want to take as the new White House Communications director . Who he ought to take is not just someone who knows how to talk to the press. What he needs, as ive said before on your air, is someone who is going to be able to bring a sense of strategy to how they use their Communications Operations and the opportunities presented there. That that person need to persuade the country, someone creative about their approaches that they use so they are using the president in the most effective ways and other voices that are possible. Someone is bringing an integrated approach. People dont realize there are thousands of input that go into any kind of communications opportunity, especially from a white house, especially this one, across the entire administration as someone who needs to be coordinate, an honest broker across the world and then need to set agendas and not just on a oneoff basis. He needs a Real Communications central artery jiflt that can work with the president and also the entire administration, not necessarily a washington insider. So sara, youve worked for president george w. Bush youve worked for candidate john mccain what is that message that you think needs to come out of the white house right now . I think the most important thing that this white house can do is get their tax policy rolled out and and really focus on that. Theres nothing more important for a sitting president , particularly in his first year in office, than to get some legislative wins and to really implement his agenda for the country. They have yet to do that they have been all over the board. The hill is now running away from them as a result of whats happening in health care, and i dont know they with get this tax plan rolled out soon enough, Strong Enough is born by get someone who can mash behind and stop following the hill. The president followed the hill and that happened on health care and that cannot happen on tax reform if thats going to be successful. The initiative seems to be coming from the white house along with congress a. M. Leaders. They are already having join statements with secretary mnuchin of treasury who was actually supposed to speak at the White House Press briefings about taxes. Gary cohn has been working on this. That was ancient history. Well see if anything comes out at 3 45 now, dawn, but whats the bottom line for the legislative calendar, and how much do we push it off is this a delay . How are investors supposed to take this . Well, i mean, look, the time is racing ahead and they dont have that much time to really get this going they are that you canning about tax reform and beginning to talk about it seriously in many of the business groups in washington to try to have an impact on these issues, they are stepping up and hoping to get tax reform on the agenda and have it seriously considered once congress is back in september. I still think there owes an tonight for this white house and the president to have a positive impact the entire white house has t discipline itself and get focused and more than anyone the president will have to do that. Hey, don, we talked about what the Republican Leadership in congress should do. What about the democratic leader do they just stand back and watch, or is there a strategy that Mitch Mcconnell and others could be using not Mitch Mcconnell, that Chuck Schumer and others could be employing right now to take advantage of this time . Youve