is hurt. so far no descriptions are deemed credible. this is according to the new jersey state police. so according to the state police, they have no credible information of any injuries but a gunman firing at least at security cameras. how many security cameras, to your knowledge, are there in that area? >> in around the mall? >> by the nordstrom and the area that people congregate. are they visible? >> for the most part they are pretty visible. this is a high profile mall. there is a slew of cameras all over the place. >> are they the kind that are like a half a globe in a ceiling? >> exactly. >> or is it like a rectangular camera? >> more of the globe. >> so if someone wanted to shoot at them they could figure out what the cameras were? >> exactly.